Media needs to stop pitching female actresses BO against each other

nierembergia thumbnail
10th Anniversary Thumbnail Explorer Thumbnail
Posted: 9 years ago
#1
Box Office : #Sonam's #Neerja Set To Go Past #Kahaani, #Queen & #MaryKom
@koimoi

There is not one tweet or article on #Sonam's #Neerja Set To Go Past #BombayVelvet #Besharam (box office)

What happened to equality?
Why are actresses pitched against one another?
Why aren't actresses pitched against actors who debuted around same time?

It is constant actress vs actress and everyone keeps falling for it.


Edited by PC00 - 9 years ago

Created

Last reply

Replies

13

Views

887

Users

7

Likes

36

Frequent Posters

adigaag thumbnail
15th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Commentator Level 2 Thumbnail
Posted: 9 years ago
#2
Seriously it's about time this happens. I'm sure men have bigger egos than women it will hit them where it hurts the most. Ranbir and Sonam need to be compared. PC is on a roll proving what she wants to. I want this to change now. When u start comparing actors without gender bias is when gender equality will prevail. BW needs this in abundance right now be it in terms of pay or recognition.
Edited by adigaag - 9 years ago
CineFanLuver thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 9 years ago
#3
Thank you for this!

While it is all fun when we fandoms fight over who did better when, it is not the same when the media pitch actresses against each other, while they do ignore men totally. The bias shows how deep sexism sit!
Edited by BollyFanLuver - 9 years ago
CineFanLuver thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 9 years ago
#4

Originally posted by: adigaag

Seriously it's about time this happens. I'm sure men have bigger egos than women it will hit them where it hurts the most. Ranbir and Sonam need to be compared. PC is on a roll proving what she wants to. I want this to change now. When u start comparing actors without gender bias is when gender equality will prevail. BW needs this in abundance right now be it in terms of pay or recognition.


I agree!
Why compare female BO results as if it was an anomaly!! A wonder to talk about? Lets compare to male actors movie by movie & praise who did better when they do! Sonam said it before,, she is competing with the guys, not the girls.

& PC, KAngana Ranault deserve applauses for doing so as well! I clled Koimoi out on this, we all should imho
kabeeraspeaking thumbnail
20th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 9 years ago
#5
Because comparisons are made on the basis of some similarity. Numbers of Khan movies are compared with other Khan movies. Specific genre movies are compared vs. each other. Sequels are compared vs. prequels. Female centric movies are compared with other female centric movies. So it's more about a benchmark for comparison (to provide common ground and thus judge success) rather than making it a woman vs. woman thing.

Also, pitching Sonam's best movie against Ranbir's worst isn't really how comparisons are supposed to work unless we just want to make any wild comparison like 'what can run better: fish or bird?' See above, there has to be some starting similarity in the two things you're comparing. The 'correct' comparison would be to assess Sonam's best against Ranbir's best or Sonam's most recent with Ranbir's most recent if you want to see how people who debuted around the same time have/are doing and that too is simplifying it a lot.
nierembergia thumbnail
10th Anniversary Thumbnail Explorer Thumbnail
Posted: 9 years ago
#6

Originally posted by: adigaag

Seriously it's about time this happens. I'm sure men have bigger egos than women it will hit them where it hurts the most. Ranbir and Sonam need to be compared. PC is on a roll proving what she wants to. I want this to change now. When u start comparing actors without gender bias is when gender equality will prevail. BW needs this in abundance right now be it in terms of pay or recognition.



It does hurt actresses the most. I've seen few articles or tweets on actors comparison such as Ranbir's BO vs Ranveer's BO or Varun's BO vs Sidharth's BO by media.

For male actors there seems to be room for everyone not just top three, but with female actors media only highlights #1 #2 female actor of the year, but other female actresses are dismissed.
nierembergia thumbnail
10th Anniversary Thumbnail Explorer Thumbnail
Posted: 9 years ago
#7

Originally posted by: kabeeraspeaking

Because comparisons are made on the basis of some similarity. Numbers of Khan movies are compared with other Khan movies. Specific genre movies are compared vs. each other. Sequels are compared vs. prequels. Female centric movies are compared with other female centric movies. So it's more about a benchmark for comparison (to provide common ground and thus judge success) rather than making it a woman vs. woman thing.

Also, pitching Sonam's best movie against Ranbir's worst isn't really how comparisons are supposed to work unless we just want to make any wild comparison like 'what can run better: fish or bird?' See above, there has to be some starting similarity in the two things you're comparing. The 'correct' comparison would be to assess Sonam's best against Ranbir's best or Sonam's most recent with Ranbir's most recent if you want to see how people who debuted around the same time have/are doing and that too is simplifying it a lot.



I can understand Neerja being pitched against Kahaani, but I do not see Neerja being pitched against Piku or even a Queen, yet media does it using 'female centric' box office, which I do not see as a good thing. As it is commonly assumed female centric movies do not do as well at the box office. I don't see why a female centric movie can't be pitched against a male centric movie.
Edited by PC00 - 9 years ago
DanceUntilWeDie thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 9 years ago
#8
Like vidya said it serves a section of the industry.
Who will see the herogiri then if all the women are chilled out or worse start doing films together?
Her-mion-e thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 9 years ago
#9
Your post came at right time 😲😲😲
I just typed in another thread that I dont like this '33% female reservation'
why dont treat them only as 'movies' not 'female oriented movies'
kabeeraspeaking thumbnail
20th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 9 years ago
#10
@TM: Have you noted that Neerja is not being compared against TWMR or Hamari Adhuri Kahani or Katti Batti or Bajirao Mastani or even Barfi even though all these movies star Sonam's female contemporaries in lead roles? Because these movies are not female-centric, something which is almost being treated as a genre in BW since Kahaani release. Ranbir/Ranveer/Varun/Sid don't have any such 'genre' to work in that they can be compared within. Otherwise, they do get ranked/compared on successes/failure and have their numbers (most especially openings) compared too.

So the comparison here is within a genre, not between females. There's benefits in stories solely about women being considered as a genre on their own because this brings more awareness/social consciousness, but it also treads the dichotomy of segregation vs. inclusion. These are the 'segregated' movies...their inclusion (and therefore comparison) with 'normal' movies can only happen when we reach a state of equality where they will share similar common ground (challenges/advantages.)

ETA: Queen is a female centric movie. Piku was marketed/hyped as movie with a female in the lead role and others in supporting roles, regardless of what it really may be (up to debate as this was being discussed recently.) Why can't a female centric movie be compared against 'male centric' movies, you ask? Let's compare Ranveer's BM or Ranbir's Tamasha vs. Neerja 😆 That's not even going to Salman's BB if you really wanna get male centric 😆
Edited by kabeeraspeaking - 9 years ago

Related Topics

Bollywood thumbnail

Posted by: priya185 · 1 months ago

Bollywood Hungama actors roundtable Ishaan Vicky Ayushmann Aditya Raghav and Vishal...

Expand ▼
Bollywood thumbnail

Posted by: iamrebelheart · 1 months ago

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQUN4bbD5pk/?igsh=MWp3bjcydnBwODJhZg==

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQUN4bbD5pk/
Expand ▼
Bollywood thumbnail

Posted by: Rosyme · 1 months ago

https://youtu.be/wFaksMh3e9w?si=7j1q_LwO6nMP4Ohh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFaksMh3e9w
Expand ▼
Bollywood thumbnail

Posted by: Maroonporsche · 2 months ago

https://youtu.be/IXaPpDYgwYg?si=nCUE0VAJ5adtYPiM https://youtu.be/FudfVyYWNxQ?si=LtBcYnpVsoKDafd1

https://youtu.be/IXaPpDYgwYg?si=nCUE0VAJ5adtYPiM
Expand ▼
Bollywood thumbnail

Posted by: Sparkle_Soul · 3 months ago

Her PR flunkies and minions really convinced us back in May that she is playing the main female lead in King but guess what? She is totally...

Expand ▼
Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".