Dheera wrong or Wright??? Share your POV

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Dheera is odd couple, ok our forum is divided in to half /half - ok let's see about recent situation and what if the situation was different.

First - recent situation at what we are seeing live on soap. Dhram is married, have a son age 22-23. Who is married to vidya. Meeras sister.
-Durga, a wife who he have no relationship and not accept her as his wife. Do not treat well.
-dhram double meeras age. She is 21 and dhram 42.

All the revenge one side, now this man has fallen head over hill for meera. Truly loves her. He is forgetting all the relationship as how society will think of him merrying someone half his age. This could have been solved but the big problem is that meera is his DIL sister. Big time messes the relationship.

Now from dhrams POV , he is a man manipulated by his mother to merry a half his age girl. Than manipulated by meera to act as she is in love with him.

He is a man and obviously any 42 will list over a 21 years old, specially when he now have the ticket as meera his wife. With all the odd and shame that he went through in name of revenge suddenly feels normal.

Remember dhram is the man who did not care regardless who he is merrying. He has no shame at the first place to mess up relationship. So he will not have shame to love that same women.

This is what we are seeing now. He has fallen in love without shame. He is still the same dhram, because if he was anything different he would think 100 time before saying he loves meera.

He is a shameless man, however in that shameless we see bravery. Because look at his guts, after all the relationship who is saying no, he is fighting with them for his love.

He is fighting against the world to prove, love can happen to anyone, yes there should be restriction at who you love, but specially in this situation, in his logic, why is it wrong? Just bcs meera is half his age? Or because meeras sister is married to his son.

Dhram and meera not blood related. Therefore the society is restricting this and dhram is against that fact for his love.

From meeras prospective; she have been manipulated but now is in guilt and realisation what she have done. She is sas of her own little sister. That guild and sickening idea is in her brain is building up, with family force it's not helpful, as the pressure is forcing her to now divorce dhram.

Correct according to our society : relationship like this should never happen to avoid such relation clash.

Correct according to love: love is possible between two individual and long as they are not breaking any human law.

So , this mean, love wins. Society is not always correct and we know this better than anyone. Love is pure and dhram love is pure at any circumstances.

What wars will happen: dhram and meeras child will be same as shvan and vidya but as a sister prospective don't you always look at your younger sibling as a child? You always look out for them, and love them.

-Dhram and meeras child will call meeras sister aunt or now bhabhi!!! Either way relationship is not muddle up.

-vidya and shaven child will call dhram and meera dada /Dadi or aunt or uncle, either way you look at those child as your own sibling or child.

This is possible as they are not blood related however it gets gross because we think like this as a society and morally in a natural world this will not happen and tbh yes I have hard time digesting this fact however looking at dhram and meeras love, a 3 end person can not take that decision when 2 people is happy the way they are.

Love can happen to anyone!


Alternative : Durga may be his wife but shvan not his child, can be his brother!! This distance the relationship and dheera is possible with no obligation.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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This is the unbiased post which has the pros and cons to dheera relationship. Dheera relationship is weird in many ways.
1. This relationship has screwed up many other relationships. From gohem POV, should they call dharam as a samdhan or a SIL. He is more or less of Ahem's age. He is elder to Gopi. Son elder to mother. It is similar to the movie cheenikum in which there is an age difference of 30 years between the couple but the hero is not the FIL of the heroine's brother or sister. I would have supported dheera if shravan was not his son and Dharam was a bachelor or divorcee or widower. Even Vidya asked him what she can call him. Father in law or brother in law.

2. As of now, it has been shown durga is dharam's legally wedded wife. There are many people who are talking about the twist but I don't know when will it happen. Will It happen or not? Or has it been off air that God alone knows. No matter how Dharam treats Durga is irrelevant. After marriage whether or not you accept the person as your spouse, it does not change the fact unless you divorce. Under whichever circumstances one might have married, once you have taken a plunge, you have taken it.

3. SNS is always bent on revenge. Gaura manipulated both of them in this relationship. In day before yesterday's episode there was the background tune for Dharam was same as when he entered the show.. He was negative. That tune wouldn't have come if dharam has really changed. He is treating Durga as a crap as she is not attractive like Meera. Will Dharam's love for Meera be the same if she gets a child?

4. Society is not always correct. Love is blind but life isn't. Love is blind if we blind ourselves to it. Dharam has been a mamma's boy but Meera has just reformed. If he loves Meera, he has to think about her status in the society and consider her family as his. If Meera is called as Dharam's keep or mistress, it will be an insult to Meera and her family. Modis have a name and status. Only because of Meera' s foolish step, her family is suffering. Even Radha married a man who is already married but It didn't complicate any relationships. Meera did worse than Radha.

We cannot fully blame Dharam for this. Meera is also equally responsible.
Edited by sharoon3210 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Couldn't read all of this in detail but got the general gist. A good, relatively neutral post. Good job there!

My two cents:

I think Dharam should let Meera go. At least, at this point in time. My main issue with Dharam-Meera is the age. Meera is 21, barely an adult. She doesn't have the mental capability to make certain decisions. When she decided to marry Dharam, she DIDN'T think about the actual fact that it was a marriage imo, she just thought about her revenge/ family. Dharam knew and he dgaf.

If Dharam really loves her, he should leave her. Meera should go to school. Meera should experience life. She should have good friends her age. She should go on trips. She needs to mature on her own. She should learn lessons and THEN, when she's older, when she has the capability to make such life-changing decisions, Dharam should try to come back into the picture.

Someone needs to be the mature person in this situation and if Dharam is really serious about Meera, it needs to be him.

Meera is still hella immature.

--of course this isn't even taking Durga into account. That's a whole other situation that adds a new dimension to the issue.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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You are contradicting yourself.
You are using shameless and brave in same sentence
Shameless person can't be brave and vice versa

If he is fighting for meera shamelessly doesn't make him brave, it means for him lust is above everything.

Why falling in love means only with a girl? Why can't he fall in love with his child who was pressurised to marry any Modi daughter just for happiness of his mom?

Again there is one more contradiction. From where did shravan come if there was no relationship between dharam and Durga?

Meera is anything but wife. She is not wife of dharam. He has no right on meera and if meera wish to marry someone else without divorce then dharam can't even stop her. That marriage is illegal to begin with.

All these years dharam has just lived for himself and his mother. Now it's time to live for his son. Responsibility of father is not just to contribute sperms, giving him happy life and a good upbringing is his responsibility too. Now when he is improved then start spreading happiness from your home and start with your own child.

Shravan is not yet declared his brother, let's talk about reality and not possibilities. Right now shravan is his son.


Meera is an immature girl, few months back she was in love with sanskar and it took her few days to fall out of love. If tomorrow any of meera's friend taunts her about your husband is an old man, there are chances of meera losing interest from her marriage. She would make circus out of all relations. Better let her go and let her live her life.

I don't think dharam is 42. When aham and Gopi got married at that time aham was a well settled business man. He looked like a well trained business man. He must be around 26 at that time. There was no relationship between aham gopi for few years, let's say till meera arrived aham was around 28 or 29. Add 18 years of leap means 47. Let's say dharam is one year younger then aham means 46. Even dharam has a business and he might have contributed few years in it to learn before marriage. Those who want to have career can't get married in 18 or 20 years and start vellagiri.

About debate of right or wrong. It's morally and legally wrong.
Edited by White-Rose - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: White-Rose

You are contradicting yourself.

You are using shameless and brave in same sentence
Shameless person can't be brave and vice versa

If he is fighting for meera shamelessly doesn't make him brave, it means for him lust is above everything.

Why falling in love means only with a girl? Why can't he fall in love with his child who was pressurised to marry any Modi daughter just for happiness of his mom?

Again there is one more contradiction. From where did shravan come if there was no relationship between dharam and Durga?

Meera is anything but wife. She is not wife of dharam. He has no right on meera and if meera wish to marry someone else without divorce then dharam can't even stop her. That marriage is illegal to begin with.

All these years dharam has just lived for himself and his mother. Now it's time to live for his son. Responsibility of father is not just to contribute sperms, giving him happy life and a good upbringing is his responsibility too. Now when he is improved then start spreading happiness from your home and start with your own child.

Shravan is not yet declared his brother, let's talk about reality and not possibilities. Right now shravan is his son.


Meera is an immature girl, few months back he was in love with sanskar and it took her few days to fall out of love. If tomorrow any of meera's friend taunts her about your husband is an old man, there are chances of meera losing interest from her marriage. She would make circus out of all relations. Better let her go and let her live her life.

I don't think dharam is 42. When aham and Gopi got married at that time aham was a well settled business man. He looked like a well trained business man. He must be around 26 at that time. There was no relationship between aham gopi for few years, let's say till meera arrived aham was around 28 or 29. Add 18 years of leap means 47. Let's say dharam is one year younger then aham means 46. Even dharam has a business and he might have contributed few years in it to learn before marriage. Those who want to have career can't get married in 18 or 20 years and start vellagiri.

About debate of right or wrong. It's morally and legally wrong.



Good post. Your age calculation is accurate.😃 It was mentioned in the show that Ahem was 26 when he was a bachelor. Ahem got married at the age of 26. He completed his 27th birthday when Rashi changed the cake order which Gopi had placed. His friends made fun of him looking at the cake picture. There was no relationship between Ahem and Gopi for 1 year.

Ahem had consummated Gopi in their second holi after eating bhang laddus which means that they had a honeymoon in their second year of their marriage.

After 10 year leap, Ahem told Gopi that she is not like before and she is 43 years to climb on the stool and take out things from the shelf. Gopi told that he is 47. So the age difference between them is 4. That is Gopi married at the age of 22.

Dharam is one year younger to Ahem so he is 46 but he is elder to Gopi.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sharoon3210



Good post. Your age calculation is accurate.😃 It was mentioned in the show that Ahem was 26 when he was a bachelor. Ahem got married at the age of 26. He completed his 27th birthday when Rashi changed the cake order which Gopi had placed. His friends made fun of him looking at the cake picture. There was no relationship between Ahem and Gopi for 1 year.

Ahem had consummated Gopi in their second holi after eating bhang laddus which means that they had a honeymoon in their second year of their marriage.

After 10 year leap, Ahem told Gopi that she is not like before and she is 43 years to climb on the stool and take out things from the shelf. Gopi told that he is 47. So the age difference between them is 4. That is Gopi married at the age of 22.

Dharam is one year younger to Ahem so he is 46 but he is elder to Gopi.


Exactly

Why are we assuming that everyone got married immediate after turning 18 or 21? Don't they have any other work except getting married and making kids? In saathiya ladies are jobless, all they can do is either plan and plot or start achar-papad business for few days, so it doesn't matter if they get married early . But what about men who have to take care of business? Don't they need few degrees for that? They get bachelor degree at age of 20-21 and then 2 or 3 years of master degree, after that business training and then they can handle business. All these things are not possible in 18 or 21 years.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Modi family especially Kokila Modi is marriage oriented. She interferes in other person's life. In Gujrathi community, business in there in their blood. If they spend one rupee, they have the capacity to earn 100 Rs. That does not actually need a degree. It needs tact.

But the CV's have made SNS that way wherein women don't have any other work but to get married and produce children


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nice we had many POV regarding the odd relationship, at least we have explanation why this forum is half/half that's great.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: White-Rose

You are contradicting yourself.

You are using shameless and brave in same sentence
Shameless person can't be brave and vice versa

If he is fighting for meera shamelessly doesn't make him brave, it means for him lust is above everything.

Why falling in love means only with a girl? Why can't he fall in love with his child who was pressurised to marry any Modi daughter just for happiness of his mom?

Again there is one more contradiction. From where did shravan come if there was no relationship between dharam and Durga?

Meera is anything but wife. She is not wife of dharam. He has no right on meera and if meera wish to marry someone else without divorce then dharam can't even stop her. That marriage is illegal to begin with.

All these years dharam has just lived for himself and his mother. Now it's time to live for his son. Responsibility of father is not just to contribute sperms, giving him happy life and a good upbringing is his responsibility too. Now when he is improved then start spreading happiness from your home and start with your own child.

<font size="2">Shravan is not yet declared his brother, let's talk about reality and not possibilities. Right now shravan is his son.</font>


Meera is an immature girl, few months back she was in love with sanskar and it took her few days to fall out of love. If tomorrow any of meera's friend taunts her about your husband is an old man, there are chances of meera losing interest from her marriage. She would make circus out of all relations. Better let her go and let her live her life.

I don't think dharam is 42. When aham and Gopi got married at that time aham was a well settled business man. He looked like a well trained business man. He must be around 26 at that time. There was no relationship between aham gopi for few years, let's say till meera arrived aham was around 28 or 29. Add 18 years of leap means 47. Let's say dharam is one year younger then aham means 46. Even dharam has a business and he might have contributed few years in it to learn before marriage. Those who want to have career can't get married in 18 or 20 years and start vellagiri.

About debate of right or wrong. It's morally and legally wrong.








For your top line: yes I am putting my POV across that's the soul reason for this post, so we can know what people thinks, not argue against it!!

And shameless person can be brave, you can not take that right way from them. It depends how a individual person look at certain prospective, for example this one, I like dheera but back of my mind there is all this relationship however if they both love one another, no 3rd person can intefear on the other hand you don't like and so you will not agree either way. But that's your prospective, not my or not others.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Maansexi






For your top line: yes I am putting my POV across that's the soul reason for this post, so we can know what people thinks, not argue against it!!

And shameless person can be brave, you can not take that right way from them. It depends how a individual person look at certain prospective, for example this one, I like dheera but back of my mind there is all this relationship however if they both love one another, no 3rd person can intefear on the other hand you don't like and so you will not agree either way. But that's your prospective, not my or not others.


There is a difference

If dharam takes stand for Durga then it's known as brave step.

And if same dharam takes stand for meera and says wife should go to hell, son should go to hell all I cares is about meera then it's a shame

If meera says I love sanskar and won't get married with anyone except him then she is fighting for her love. Brave step.

If same meera breaks the home of dharam, get Durga out of his life, doesn't care how Vidya would be affected by her odd relations and finally gets married with dharam. That's what i call shame.

Home breakers are shameless, not brave.

Brave people are those if they feel they are going wrong and stop themselves.

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