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Posted: 10 years ago
#91


My opinion is the exact opposite. There is no point criticising characters who don't exist. This criticism becomes valid only in the context of CVs who have created the characters and written the stories.

It is CVs who are responsible for making Anandi dumb. Does it make sense to say that Anandi was meant to be dumb?

It is CVs who have made Anandi's journey a mockery by robbing her of her independence and making her critically dependent on her ex-sasural. Does it make sense to say that no, no, Anandi is meant to be dependent and cannot have her own independent journey. And that that is how the story was conceived.

If the central premise -- or what is assumed to be the central premise, I'm not sure that is the case at all -- is illogical then why not critique it?

It is not as though CVs have always stood by their proclaimed aims. They announced over and over that Ansh were inseparable. We were bombarded with this message and then they went and did the opposite.


Why is it necessary to show a crippled, wavering, dependent Anandi, if her story was meant to be inspirational, if her story was about this courageous woman who went out to help others?


Why cannot she have a relationship with Dsa while at the time same time having her independent journey? How can any logical theme dictate a life of dependence for their inspirational lead who is supposed to be different from others?

Where is the courage in being dependent? How can any CVs insist this is their central theme? And if they do, should we say there is no point criticising them as it is the theme of the story?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Aparna,
Sorry, I don't share the same perspective as yours. As a viewer, I have an objection when an ex-wife lives in her ex-husband's home for 12 years. The woman whom you see as a beti, I see her as an ex-wife. And socially or legally, my perception about JaAn relationship is not wrong.

The central theme of the story is that bal vivah is bad. But the makers are okay to show balika vadhu living in her balak var's house forever, then how is bal vivah bad?

These are some serious objections I have against the makers, and I don't think you are allowed to question my objections / opinions or give me suggestions. It is against IF rules too.

Secondly, If it is okay for you to quit watching a show because you think it doesn't meet your expectations then that's fine, but why do you expect me to behave the same way as you would do?

Third, I have never called you biased or a blind fan or commented on your intellect. Looks like you are mixing up things here.

Fourth, if you think makers don't care for online opinions then why do you think India Forum exists? And even if they don't care, why should that stop us from sharing our opinions?

Finally (and trust me, it's not easy for me to write this and I don't intend to hurt your sentiments, but I have no choice), if you are really the type of person who ignores something that doesn't meet your expectations, then why don't you stop reading my posts and replying to them?

Just as you suggest others to quit watching the show or stop objecting the makers, would I be right in telling you to stop responding to the posts that do not meet your expectations?

I would have never said the above to anyone, and definitely not for the sake of a clumsy show that you and I have no control over, but here things are becoming rather more personal than they are meant to be.

I think we can agree to disagree.


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Posted: 10 years ago
#93
Those who criticise the show seems to like the show and thats why there are umpteen discussions. Ditto for Indiaforum responses. Though I also like the show, I am just wonderstruck how each scene is read into and how each word in IF is consumed. It shows the people are hooked up for various reasons and one of them is attachment.

It is like some spouses staying in a marriage happily inspite of bitter differences.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#94
Esha - There are people who keep calling me biased simply because I happen to like a character a lot more than other characters therefore for them every thing I say comes only from my liking for that character.
As for the show bringing message about child marriage is bad.Yes it is giving and still is giving the message.

Child marriage has taken away everything from Anandi Her parents Sumi Bhairon and Dsa are the offenders. Dsa is the worst of all.So she was used to rehabilitate a childbride whose life was ruined because of her blind belies it is not just child marriage Dsa did not believe in women's healthcare education her beliefs about status of women in the home as well as society - all this ruined the lives of Anandi Jamuna and Gehna.

What made Dsa reform? It is the underlying goodness in her that was buried deep in her it is her concern for the happiness of her loved ones that has changed her.It is the realisation that came after seeing her loved ones suffering that made her realise how wrong she had been.It is not the legislations that governemnt has made or the law enforcement that changed her.
It is the supportive progressive minded people made her change her perspectives.

Today with the help of her families she fights against the same evils which she stood for.
Anandi and Dsa together as one unit or as grandmother - daughter pair as far as the CVs are concerned are the symbols of change.They defy the society norms. they came to gether because of child marriage saw so much of unhappiness in their lives because of the society that puts women down anduopholds traditions one of them was an upholder those values and the other always questioned them and they bonded over the hardships they faced.They came out stronger.

They work together for what they believe in.

The so called society can frown at them but as one unit they send a strong message - humanity is far above the norms and beliefs of the society.

If the old lady considers Anandi as her grand daughter the so called society has no right to question it.

I am not talking about Jagya because - He is a combinantion of Sumi and Bhairon as well as Dsa he is an extension of Dsa.
Dsa with her beliefs has made him some what like her and Anandi's sufferings from him were more of a result of Dsa's influence on him.Today he is a man who beliefs in equality and sees nothing wrong in seeing his ex wife as his best friend.
They all know where they stand their hearts are clean therefore there isn't any need to answer the questions that society asks them. They are not doing any wrong.


From legal point of view they are not doing anything illegal by staying in the same house.
Society can question but why should anyone care for what society or people think as long as they are not doing any harm?


Child marriage affected them all Anandi's life was ruined Dsa has to live with a lot of regrets Jagya paid the price for following Dsa's foot steps but what saved them is not the laws legislatures or law enforcement agencies but their own inherent goodness.

Nandini Akheraj family relationship may not be this way because Harki Akheraj Kundan have not realised the error of their ways .

Moral - It is not laws that are needed to bring change in society it is the mindset.

Anandi Jagya don't see themselves as exes any more but people still see them from that perspective.
Anandi can dance very happily to celebrate Jagya's wedding anniversary with his third wife and that is because she has truly moved on from that part of life.
When she has forgotten the fact that she had been his wife once upon a time why people are so bent on remembering it?
Is her view of life wrong?

Why does it become a problem for on lookers when they want to remain as friends?



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Posted: 10 years ago
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How many of us would be comfortable living in the same house with our husband and his former wife?I'm sure the answer would be none.

So it is not about Anandi being comfortable with living in her former sasra or she and Dsa forming a unit. What about poor Ganga? When she mildly objected, people came down on her like a ton of bricks.

Now she has been forced to accept the ex, and since she has no choice in the matter, she has learnt to accept it with a smile.

Really how fair is this arrangement on her and her kids?

How fair is it on Anand's kids that they are growing up in her mother's former sasra instead of their own home?

If this was an acceptable arrangement, why deceive the kids by not disclosing the truth to them?

If I came to know that I was raised in my mother's former sasra and was deceived into believing that they were my mother's close blood relatives, I'd be furious.




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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: rohini55




How many of us would be comfortable living in the same house with our husband and his former wife?I'm sure the answer would be none.

So it is not about Anandi being comfortable with living in her former sasra or she and Dsa forming a unit. What about poor Ganga? When she mildly objected, people came down on her like a ton of bricks.

Now she has been forced to accept the ex, and since she has no choice in the matter, she has learnt to accept it with a smile.

Really how fair is this arrangement on her and her kids?

How fair is it on Anand's kids that they are growing up in her mother's former sasra instead of their own home?

If this was an acceptable arrangement, why deceive the kids by not disclosing the truth to them?

If I came to know that I was raised in my mother's former sasra and was deceived into believing that they were my mother's close blood relatives, I'd be furious.




well said. Not only Ganga's position but hardly anyone would be comfortable in Anandi's position either.
For Ganga, this is one of the toughest arrangements to put up with.

The kids will also not like it once they know what these actual relationships are.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#97
Jagya has become way better than Dadisaa , Sumi , Bhairon ever were
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Why does it become a problem for on lookers when they want to remain as friends?


Who has problem with Anandi and Jagya's friendship? but why Jagya and Ganga has to explain to the world all their lives Anandi's special relations with BH ? why they cannot the balak var live in peace with his wife without his past , his balika vadhu always hovering on his head and people asking from him and he keeps explaining to them who this woman is and what is her rishta with BH?

is Anandi an orphan ?No . Does she has no house of her own ? Yes she has three more houses One Khajan's , one KB and one is her own SN and two more families then why she keeps clinging to BH only? It was such a disturbing scene when Mannu was sitting holding Anandi and Jagya's child marriage album and looking at his parents with questioning eyes what is this ?Why Jagya and Ganga has to explain to him ?Did they keep Anandi in BH ?Why don't the great kalyani devi who kept Anandi in BH and kept albums hidden in store room explain to the kids of her misdeeds of getting these two kids married but later she realized her mistakes Anandi is now like a daughter for her while she has accepted Jagya's right to have life partner of his choice Ganga

Abhi and shivam don't the truth even now Only Mannu knows that Anandi is not sister of Ganga Abhi and shivam are still living with this Anandi is Ganga's sister

I wonder why so much trouble needs to be taken ? Explain to the kids , explain to the society Why cannot Anandi spare everyone from this trouble and move on and live in her house and lead her own life i have no issues with her being cordial with Jagya , friendly with him , considering him as her best friend , her care for the well being of her friend but yes i have issues with her staying in BH I have issues with her forcing herself in Jagya's family matters when he never asked her opinion on his matters , i have issues with her pathetic thinking when she said to Dadisaa while doing a drama in front of Dadisaa i should leave BH because i want Jagya's anger to get calmer hearing Ganga's words not mine Disgusting Just what exactly this Anandi thinks herself of she is more important for Jagya than his wife ? 🤢

Jagya's behaves cordial with Anandi but he has never crossed his line and he never interferes in Anandi's matters while Anandi has always crossed the line interfering too much Jagya's family matters suffocating Ganga to the core and Jagya had to bear the burn of it
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Posted: 10 years ago
#99

Originally posted by: aparnauma

Well Jagya and Ganga along with Dsa consider Anandi as their family.That's what we have been shown.Whether we agree with it or not is a different issue.

It's been discussed enough

How can it be right when a bunch of girls going and performing at someone's home at a private party?

Would we send our girls to MLA's home to dance at his birthday party?

Is it all right for the principal to send her kids to dance at a party happening at MLA's residence?

Is it all right for the school principal to get her school kids to dance at a party happening at her home?

and why was pooja coming to BH before ?How come she was coming to BH every day before with an excuse to study with Mannu Mannu is not her class fellow they would get same homework and principal of SN was bringing milkshakes for her The principal did not ask her student why she is in BH and not doing her homework with her class fellows ?
why Pooja came to MLA's house on his son's birthday with ten kilos of make up and was seen dancing too now suddenly a rule has come into existence for her she cannot come MLA 's private party when previously she was all around MLA's house eyeing his son ? what a wonderful girl Anyways i have no issues she did not come to party The more she stays away from Mannu may be some day she will develop conscience to look into her misdeeds With her around BH folks They keep sympathizing with her and she keeps getting over confident she is pure angel and is Mannu's victim 🤢
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Posted: 10 years ago
Yes Anandi told J even in her wildest dreams she won't try to get him back because he is not her Jagya whom she loves but he is Jagat and later was crying buckets in front of him divorce day Crying on Bhairon's shoulder on engagement day with shiv Jagya wont come back to me now , peeping inside his room before her marriage day and saying to sumi love happens only once i cannot marry Shiv Lols and no one hammered in her head love happens only once This was her own theory Anandi is a woman who was giving lectures to others to change their thinking but herself was following hammered in her head thinking ? lols good joke She was not following any hammered thinking it was her own theory here
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