~Are we expecting bit too much from the protagonist ?~

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Posted: 10 years ago
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We had lot of reactions expressed here since last episode was aired. Most of us have felt disappointed or let down by the reactions given by Rizwan the protagonist in various situations shown in last couole of episodes. He seemed out of grip, hesitant, fumbling and even indifferent towards sensitivity of the situation in which Preet is in or at times completely aloof towards her genuine distress just to brsuh it off casually to escape from the situation. His indifference did irk me a lot too which I mentioned in my other posts.

But come to think of it, are we getting too hyper about his reactions not assessing his circumstances properly? What possible options he has in his hands right now to calm Preet's increasing insecurities or to take control of the meghna angle at this point of time? Yes he has his dilemma , he has his genuine feelings for preet and he does have the humane side to him which makes him uncomfortable in crisis moment. But on the other hand he still has the ultimate mission for which he has waited from childhood. His conflicts does make him restless and doubtful but it is yet to result in his resurrection, a complete turn around for the chane of heart. But all these are still very unstructured in his thoughts and yet to have the clarity to make him conclusive about his constant emotional struggle. Plus I do think he is yet to realise that how genuinely and how deeply he has fallen for Preet, yes his subconcious knows that there is some unknown attraction by which she binds him and that makes him weak , her pain hets felt by him so easily , but does he realise that all these gamut of confusing emotions are nothing but LOVE . Does he sense that its necessary for his concious mind to listen to his subconcious so that he can finally let go of his inhibitions? I guess the answers would be a BIG NO. As its only mixed feelings inside him , all in a jumbled up coded puzzle, I guess its bit too much to expect that He would all of a sudden come to a conclusion and try to help Preet out with her emotional struggle. As her distress does mske him uncomfortable, he just wants to divert the topic and chooses silence instead. He is yet to find the answers for himself , so it must be a difficult task to clear doubts of another. His silence unfortunately gets misinterpreted by Preet and I dont blame her either. Both of them are in a situation like questions gets answered with another set of questions only, and no answers from their heart to each other. A plight through which both have to sail with getting bruised badly.

Phew wrote so much. But had to as these were there in my mind after reading the thread I made.
Do share your thoughts folks. Want to know different povs.Are we in a hurry too just like few rushed episodes so that it can help us to come to a conclusion? The protagonist is conflicted for certain reason and iguess that will remain till the every end. The writer mentioned on twitter that its like slowburn for ishreet love story, so are we expecting a tasty platter cooked on high flame and served immediately? 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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THANK YOU FOR THIS POST PAYALL!
RESSS .. esiting in a while

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okay so i was wanting to write a similar post but yayy payal! Its always better to have such a serious post from a pro 😳 lovely write up as always.

My perspective of Rizwaan Ahmed Khan is simple - he is a bad agent, and incompetent person at his job, a person misfit in this world of lies and deception. He is NOT good at what he is put into, and that makes the crux of the story. He is miserable at what he is put into, he was supposed to manipulate the Hooda family but he ended up lovinh them. He was supposed to hate this country but he ended up finding similarities. He was supposed to enjoy pyshical relations with Preet but he ended up healing her wounds and He was supposed to stay like a robot but he ended up adopting a baby
So yes, its all a huge mess for him.

Amidst this is his confusion and helplessness, we were given a peek inside his w
emotional dillema but now we are given a hint inside how this emotional dillema is effecting him in the physical world. How all of it is taking a toll on him.

His equation with Jay Shergill. Firstly toh Rizwaan's excessive monologues and his fumbling is for the viewers to clarify his character and i feel its been done repeatedly in the last few episodes. Like in ever scene Rizwaan has a monologue of main ishaan nahi hn, so that is more a story requirement to clarifty the audience and i feel its done bcz mayne new ppl are joining in to watch the show. So i have seperated production demands from the character. Its just like Preet's repitition of main tum trust karti hn ishaan .. just for the sake of establishing a character. Apart from this, he was able to point out everything in Jay that he did in Rizwaan. A brilliant RAW agent could have made sure that a spy remains off the hook and doesnt get alert that he is doubted on. So for me that was an equal scene. Both of them were required not to set off alarms but they both failed.

Then is naina. I mean kudos to that girl for being annoying and completelyy disrespectful for any kind of privacy. And Rizwaan has managed her to stop nagging him and then in the rangoli scene he didnt bother abt saali sahiba's meri didi rangoli banati thi. So he has alreasy sort of managed her but the things naina is upto, like keeping those letters .. those things are creating uncalled situations for him .. regarding Preet. So i guess now naina is gonna get a good scolding from Rizwaan.

As for Preet. There is no way on earth he can assure Preet at this point. He himself is so so confused. That one day he came with inhibitions lowered was snacthed from him and he qas put under the edge of his identity revealation. She is insecure and hurt and no matter how much Rizwaan tries to he is unable to empthaize or even understand what Preet must be going thru. In his heart he has never loved another woman. So he is no odea how to ease her fears of another woman. And for the time being the equation is put intrestingly and makes me look forwars that these unsaid things and frustration is leading the couple to a drastic step. Its a big fight or a intense romantic seq.

So for me rizwaan is confused and lost just like he is supposed to be. His emotional turmoil is taking a toll on his work just like it was suppose to. He is failing and drowning and his scartered and distracted focus is now hurting preet. A calculated person would have firstly eased out Preet's fear and thats a piece of cake. That woman needs a hug and thats it but Rizwaan will never do it. So every conflict arising in this story is bcz rizwaan is scartered. And i am loving my tragic hero. The only hero whose tragic flaw is so well defined.

P.s - sorry for spelling errors 😳 typing from cell.

Edited by Fantasia. - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I am yet to see yesterday's episode but still i will put up my points😆
First and foremost thing that is bothering him like hell is his dual personality, both Ishaan and Rizwan keeps him away from taking a good decision, they always confuses him

When he is Rizwan, Ishaan do not allow him to do the required things for Mission, Ishaan always keeps him changing his mind, questioning Rizwan's motives, making him weak and the result is Rizwan comes out as very bad spy/agent...so ISHAAN is holding him back


When he is Ishaan, Rizwan takes revenge from him😆
Rizwan keeps him reminding that all the love, care, concern is for Ishaan not Rizwan, Rizwan keeps him reminding that he has a mission of revenge to complete and then he hv to go back, so why nurture the feelings...as a result Ishaan always holds back his feeling which results in hurting Preet n her emotions

Now in the current situation, where Meghana's family have come, Ishreet are scared.

Preet fear is of loosing Kavya n Ishaan, Preet somehow have started feeling that Ishaan can be never hers so she is nagging him to accept her as wife ...any person in place of preet will do so, her insecurities are increasing with each passing second, whenever Ishaan makes her feel special, she loves it but when he dont speak about meghana and avoid her questions by being silent, she is taking it otherwise and its hurting her like hell (just imagine Ishaan ka sach pata chala toh kya hoga iska😭 )

Ishaan/Rizwan has double fears compared to Preet...if its found out that he is not Ishaan than:
1)his true identity will be revealed which means his mission will be over, his dream from childhood to take revenge will crash in few moments
2) he will lost his family, especially Preet and Kavya and it will be his end

He is on double edged sword

The reason he is not answering preet is he himself do not know the full story so how can he answer her?? He pretty much can see, feel n sense how his silence is hurting her but he cannot do anything

p.s I feel its leading to their confession and i want this confession on lines of BALH...anger, hurt, hope, pain, restlessness, emotional, frustration, jealousy mixed together😆
i dont lyk candle light dinner, lon drive, going on knee types confession 😆 bht artificial lagta hai 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks for starting this topic - great perspectives. I too think we are being a little quick to judge.
Firstly, I'd like to highlight Rizwan is part of a terrorist cell ...despite some peoples preconceived notions this does not make him a product of a spy agency or military ( so comparing him to the RAW agent is comparing apples and oranges) ... Agents who work in the formal structure of a military agency training gain confidence and composure as a result of the training ( which usually begins at 17/18 when they enroll in the service). Rizwan on the other hand was plucked as a scared child where manipulation and fear was his training ground. - no wonder he still comes across as conflicted.

I know we want to see HERO material but I think that's totally an unrealistic expectation - we are product of our experiences and Ishan and Preet reflect that beautifully!


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Posted: 10 years ago
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My heart just goes out to Rizwaan with each passing episode maybe because I am being drawn towards the unseen psychological war and its pressure that he must be facing for a long time now instead of the current emotional conflict. Rizwaan is an out and out victim for me on psychological level for me and maybe that is the reason that the current emotional conflict becomes further heart wrenching for me to watch! Iqbal so flawlessly expresses the vulnerability of a person who was psychologically manipulated into vengeance through a traumatic incident as a child and also the current psychological battle of keeping intact the already unstable thin wall' that dissociates Rizwaan and Ishaan! It's a tough war for him and unless he succumbs to some stressful situations (which causes the collapse of that "thin wall" wholly) I do not expect him to make correct choices!


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nice topic and post! Rizwaan is not the usual run of the mill terrorist. His heart is not dead. Therefore we should be comparing him with a heartless killer... When he initiated a physical touch with Preet he could have easily proceeded without committing his feelings for her.. But when Preet asked whose husband are you? Mine or Meghnas? He couldn't say I am all yours to love cause that would mean commitment and Rizwaan is not ready for a love commitment.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Edited my post and lovely replies everyone 😳
And i am so looking forward to a tender kiss as a result of all this buildup. I just hope they bring us a outburst hug or a kiss. Bcz more than Preet, its rizwaan who needs a hug from his lady love at this point. He is so stuck.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Awesome analysis dear
Ya we a bit in hurry I don't find Ishreet in a wrong way coz Preet takes Ishaan's silence in a wrong meaning while Ishaan himself is still confused on what actually is happening in his life in just a short span first the intimacy with Preet he had thought then the arrival of the meghna's family whivh makes him more disturbed on how to over come up with that saali and family and how to manaofy Preet that its actually her who is in his heart coz he is not Ishaan but Rizwaan but he can't even tell that coz he actually wants to know what Preet thinks about him.
As he is stuck in this 2 situation a new problem comes the RAW agent and the mission complete promise.
Here Ishaan has to deal with 3.Now his focus will be on RAW agent than Preet and saali so Preet may get him wrong that's how they will have same distance
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I am yet to read all the replies. Will try to respond in the evening.

Kinza you are welcome dear.but no need to say thanks. Actually last night's all discussion on my thread finally got me to writing this.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I too didnt felt that Ishaan is not caring for Preet or attending to her insecurities!!!Becoz he himself is not sure of his life...He doesnt know what will happen next and what consequences he has to face!!He always needs to cover up his identity and he has this ultimate motive of revenge from India...And he is not allowed to make relations as an Agent...He has to fi8 all these inner questions and get the answers and then only he can fwd his hand for Preet...And whatever moments happened b4, its just his vulnerability and desire that he is controlling, lyk a way to express his love but at d end it's unusual for him..He is still unaware of how much he loves Preet...And most important thing is "He wants Preet to love Rizwan,not Ishaan"😆😆...He is literally scared of d moment when Preet will know that he is not Ishaan!!!So its difficult for him to express or reciprocate his feelings!!!

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