Why do people refer to Ram-Leela as soft po*n here? - Page 5

Originally posted by: ibelieveinpink

Romeo and Juleit were horny teenagers and in literally every remake they do have sex, but in RL they didn't. So I don't see what's so vulgar other than them expressing their desires for each other and the few long kisses. It was passion not po*n.

I think people (mainly anti-DP peeps) use it more as a jab.

it was n embarrassing watch..

It's far from a po*n film. It just have some passionate kissing scenes and most scenes were down tastefully. SLB visual effects and graphics helps alot making the scenes look not awkward. I watched this film recently with family and I didn't fell uncomfortable at all. (I'm not saying it's a film to watch with family members I'm taking about me, I didn't fell uncomfortable watching it with my family members)

The film on the other hand wasn't good at all expect for the songs were amazing.

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Romeo and Juliet is classic romance! Its a lovestory of star crossed teenage lovers who belonged to warring families. It was first sight love for them, in RamLeela it was first sight Lust ...I think it has more to do with Ranveer and DP's expressions, they expressed lust more than love. 😆 We will just have to agree to disagree over here because IMO there was nothing romantic or classic or epic or star crossed about Romeo & Juliet like it is perceived to be! It was just a story about hormonal teenagers who ended their lives to prove a point. Where was the character depth and the actual progression of the love story? Personally, I think R&J is Shakespeare's weakest play. Julius Caesar, Hamlet etc were so much better!

The movie had a lot of unnecessary vulgarity, refer to the article posted by Angelica on page 2 of this thread.

It was rather revolting, I watched it on TV and still found it unbearable, had I gone to the theater I would have left midway.

SLB has lost his marbles in his middle age...where is the director who gave us Black and Khamoshi?

Sex & Nudity

A character owns a shop that sells po*n, and it is referenced in the dialogue. Twice, a po*n film is playing on a TV; the TV screen is not shown, but a woman's moaning is heard. A group of men are shown watching and then jokingly imitate how a woman moans while thrusting.

The two main characters flirt, hug, and kiss. In one scene a man and woman are shown on a bed together as they flirt. At the end of the scene the woman kisses the man. The film ends with a long and passionate kiss.

A woman is attacked by group of men who hold her down and try to remove her clothes, they are stopped before they rape her. Another scene shows a group of men chasing a group of women implying that they plan to rape them.

In the song - Ishqyaun Dhishqyaun - A man is shown comically acting like he's spanking a woman along with implied display of the man touching the woman's breasts. At the end of the song the couple are shown rolling around on the floor.

Sensuous song - Ram Chahe Leela - During the song a woman wearing a blouse and skirt is shown dancing sensuously, her midriff and at times her bare legs and cleavage can be seen. She is also shown buttoning her blouse at the start.

Sensuous song - Ang Laga De - A topless man and a woman wearing a blouse and skirt are shown. The woman's midriff can be seen as she seductively rolls around on a bed. At the end of the song the man and woman are shown kissing passionately

I don't remember exact details from the movie but I agree that RL had some vulgar scenes. Though kissing, item songs, RS's shirtless scenes, a failed rape attempt and owning a po*n shop doesn't make the entire movie a po*n movie...because I'm pretty sure other BW movies have had such scenes as well...So not sure why it is such a big deal over here. But anywho, to each his own I guess 😆😆

Originally posted by: saddyA

Sex can be beautiful it's not the fact that the main protagonists engaged in it or not that was crass. It was the way it was protrayed. Ram Leela was all about lust. It was crass where in other versions I have seen it's the visceral need to be together which is showed on screen.

If Ram Leela had been about that I wouldn't think the movie was crass even if they had sex because then it would have been about them showing their love to each other.

It's your POV to think that Romeo and Juliet were horny teenagers. But I think that during this era it was quite possible that R&J fell in love at first sight because they were that innocent and candid and knew that it was with their hubby/wife that they would end their life with so they were ready to risk everything to have their families accept their lover and end this ennemity. It wasn't merely for a good f**k.

And at 13 and 15 they were of marriable age.

It wasn't uncommon for people to fall for each other over a correspondance or during a dance or a ball.

Romeo & Juliet is my least favorite Shakespeare's play. I liked Macbeth & Othello much better.

po*n/ soft po*n are movies with sex scenes with the sole purpose to entice the audience. There is nothing else to offer

Originally posted by: Zeeliciousxo

Have you read the play (and more importantly, analyzed/studied the play)? How is it possible that R&J fell in love at first sight when right before meeting Juliet Romeo was obsessed and claimed to be in love with another girl that he had seen/met? And no they were not innocent. I studied R&J in my Shakespeare class in university. The play is FULL of sexual innuendoes through which Romeo admits multiple times to his "friends" that he has had sex with multiple girls. How in the world is that true love?

SLB showed in RL precisely what can be seen in R&J the play. The sexual innuendoes (which Shakespeare was famous for actually), the lusting around, the superficial "love", the inner conflict over loyalty to self versus family, the power of language, etc. RL is a good remake of the play!

Edited to add: R&J the play has very crass moments, the movie adaptations of it romanticize their story to appeal to the youth or whatever but in reality Shakespeare's play is not some fairytale or Disney story that happens to end "tragically" (foolishly tbh). 😆

Originally posted by: saddyA

Sex can be beautiful it's not the fact that the main protagonists engaged in it or not that was crass. It was the way it was protrayed. Ram Leela was all about lust. It was crass where in other versions I have seen it's the visceral need to be together which is showed on screen.

If Ram Leela had been about that I wouldn't think the movie was crass even if they had sex because then it would have been about them showing their love to each other.

It's your POV to think that Romeo and Juliet were horny teenagers. But I think that during this era it was quite possible that R&J fell in love at first sight because they were that innocent and candid and knew that it was with their hubby/wife that they would end their life with so they were ready to risk everything to have their families accept their lover and end this ennemity. It wasn't merely for a good f**k.

And at 13 and 15 they were of marriable age.

It wasn't uncommon for people to fall for each other over a correspondance or during a dance or a ball.

exactly romeo and juliet was not some deep love story, it was very superficial, they saw each and felt attracted to one another, i saw one of the first Hollywood remakes of the play and in the scene where romeo and juleit meet they r all over each other kissing, they dont talk or get to know each other, so its all bout the attraction