Brothers and Phantom flop or not? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Mutant_n_Proud

ermmm...it has been discussed several times that budget recovery has nothing to do with a film being hit or not. theatrically any film has to do typically double the price which it has been sold to the theatres/ distributors...true Phantom did surprise with a good opening, but it has not hold up that well. it will be pretty average at its best.

Yes. After deducting satellite, music, and DVD rights from the actual budget.

Plus it depends how the distributor did the deal with the producer. An article came out at the beginning of this year that said UTV will not pay anything to Nadiadwala and the lead actors. Nadiad and the actors will get profit (distributor's profit) share. This was done to cut cost and as this was their risky project. Last year they did the same with Haider. Gave VB (the producer-director) and Shahid profit share.

So, the budget is not as high as everyone is assuming. And Kabir's claim that it's a 30-35 cr. movie is believable. Add 12 cr. to it as promotion cost. (It was a moderately promoted movie). Total budget 42-47 cr.

18-19 cr. they'd easily make from satellite, music, and DVD rights. So, they'd need to recover 24-29 cr. from theaters. 24X2 = 48 cr, 29X2 = 58 cr. <--- That's the amount they'd need to make from theaters worldwide to recover cost.

If I'm not wrong, it has already made 65-66 cr worldwide (54cr India + 11-12cr overseas).

The movie has recovered cost.

Originally posted by: B-TEX

Yes. After deducting satellite, music, and DVD rights from the actual budget.

Plus it depends how the distributor did the deal with the producer. An article came out at the beginning of this year that said UTV will not pay anything to Nadiadwala and the lead actors. Nadiad and the actors will get profit (distributor's profit) share. This was done to cut cost and as this was their risky project. Last year they did the same with Haider. Gave VB (the producer-director) and Shahid profit share.

So, the budget is not as high as everyone is assuming. And Kabir's claim that it's a 30-35 cr. movie is believable. Add 12 cr. to it as promotion cost. (It was a moderately promoted movie). Total budget 42-47 cr.

18-19 cr. they'd easily make from satellite, music, and DVD rights. So, they'd need to recover 24-29 cr. from theaters. 24X2 = 48 cr, 29X2 = 58 cr. <--- That's the amount they'd need to make from theaters worldwide to recover cost.

If I'm not wrong, it has already made 65-66 cr worldwide (54cr India + 11-12cr overseas).

The movie has recovered cost.

Originally posted by: Mutant_n_Proud

Oh do I have to repeat myself, just said already a movie's recovery has nothing to do with hit or flop, even if a movie recovers its cost but theatrically it hasn't done that well, it will be declared a 'flop' there have been even movies which have recovered their costs but were declared as disasters because they were sold at high prices against their budget...and phantom hasn't done mind boggling business after 4 days which reports have said, it will be average at its best in the final term.

And do I have to repeat UTV is the distributor and UTV didn't pay "high price" for this movie?

Yeah, it would probably get an average status as the income isn't impressive.

Every site says the budget is 55 crore without inducing promotional costs. Funny to see Katty fans trying to save face 🤣

They already pulled out Phantom from theatre. Taran & others aren't giving any updates of the daily collection anymore.

this site says it has flopped already

While this site says it's average

It has to be flop or below average. I was rooting for saif though.

Lol funny how katty fans are even calculating the worldwide collections now to show it's not a flop. Hit or flop depends on the india collections only.
A movie that was shot in foreign locations and you want us to believe the budget is 30cr lol

i think it was bound to flop/fail anyways, but it did surprise with a good opening which no one really thought. but the content was bad, and there was no WOM, so the film dropped heavily. it has nothing to do with competition with welcome back or hero, if there was enough WOM, it could have done good business i mean what's the logic a movie does 40 cr 1st week business and second week is around 6/4 crores approx. clearly the content of the movie sucked ! and saif isn't bankable anymore...now he has reached to that same positiion he was before dil chahta hai, no one would be interested signing him.