Agreed...I guess Bhima's unconditional love for Draupadi made him lose control...If Duryodhan had given back the land, then none of Draupadi's yelling, cursing and shouting would have been able to cause the war.
About the last part...I have heard some people blaming Subhadra for Abhimanyu's death...
Even a pure and innocent character like Subhadra is not spared... 😭 I dont think Subhadra's falling asleep had anything to do with it...Could the mentors not teach Abhimanyu to come out of Chakravyuh AFTER he was born? 😭
I somehow cannot accept all these theories that some deeds done in innocence can cause something so bad..
On a personal note...Could u tell me exactly why you are never a fan of Draupadi?
This is not any kind of personal attack... 😊
I was just analyzing her character n trying to understand y so many people dont like her...though I find nothing SO bad in her, despite her flaws. U may answer me in PM...in details.
I dont want to turn this thread into another Draupadi discussion thread... 😊
Neither i believe subhadra's sleeping was enough reason for abhimanyu having half knowledge. Krishna had hell lot of a time to teach abhimanyu this. And as i mentioned some people like to describe subhadra as a stupid and foolish girl. But honestly in mature pregnancy feeling dizzy is normal and even if she fell asleep in middle it was not anything to blame. At night time with full matured pregnancy who can have stamina to listen a prolong war strategy?
If anyone to be blamed for Abhi's half knowledge it would be krishna for not teaching this to abhi.
And no why should i think a normal question of your will be a personal attack? But thing it being not fond and being hater is different. No i am NOT a hater of draupadi. Yes i hate vampadi to the core. Boss draupadi of starbharat or that stupid animated film or of some novels had and will always invoke nasty side of me. I cant help it when anyone believes that being unnecessarily arrogant rude and disrespectful shows strength of a character. And some ppl admires this thought. That makes me insane. Yes being carried away is always wrong but when vampadi worship being carried away by showmakers authors or fandom then cant help my hatred get carried away too.
About Epic Draupadi no i dont hate her for any reason. But i dont find hher traits to impress me. Yes she had a lot of quality. She knew how to make all her husbands happy also she had served her elders and people around her with due respect. She was dutiful both as queen and as wife. She had all qualities ppl of that time wanted to find in a princess wife. The thing is that didnt make her extraordinary. Queen and wife of that time had to be like her. Yes she had made five husbands happy so that can be cound her good traits.
What made her different was her straightforwardness. That was not found in others of saying what feeling. But the thing is she had to accept others decision always about herself even after such quality.
Her flaw was she never had forgotten she is royal princess and queen and she had always loved to be like that. Her pride and ego made her vulnerable many times.
Having said that these are no reason to hate her. For me she was a normal woman with some extraordinary qualities. But these are no trait to impress me. I wld hv impressed if she somehow could ask for justice against pandavs too. Since they were no less responsible for her torment in ds specially yudi and to some extent arjun too (for considering this incident will help them garnering fame and also for stopping bheem and defending yudi) but she forgave them. What i feel she was never against the belief that wife and daughter is property of husband and father. Hence drupad made her a trophy in swayamvar. (her rejection too for just her family reputation had karna been known as kshatriya she wldnt hv rejected him. whether interpolation or not thats fact) so i think she was very used to being admired and protected as princess and queen and very conscious of her respected royal blood. So she had not shown courage to challenge any norms that will shake her position. That is very normal. But these are things not to impress me.
Uloopi in this case take my respect by challenging her widowhood and getting what she wants by taking her love by magic. Hidimba too did almost same. Kunti no matter how much i hate her had shown courage to take decisions. No i am not comparing draupadi with anyone. All i want to say she was a woman with those qualities which are admirable otherwise but dont impress me.
I have sympathy for her misfortune. Yes she had been molested repeated time than any other women. Suffered quite a lot. But i feel for her as many other women who bore misfortunee including Sita. This doesnt make her special for me.
Phew sorry i didnt pm you. My phone is stupid. But if you want we can discuss in pm too