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Posted: 10 years ago
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If draupadi was reason for anything that is bhim's brutal killing of dushy who wouldnt hv been so brutal if dushashan hadnt molested draupadi. Thats it. Draupadi was never reason for war. She wanted war for sure but that would hv been of no use if duryodhan agreed to give five villages.
Btw there are more IF
What IF subhadra hadnt slept in middle of Arjun's lesson. What if Abhi new how to return from chakrabyuha
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mahiima16


well then you are free to believe in what you want to believe in but the truth isn't gonna change anyway. And whether to like or dislike someone completely depends on you so i'm ok if you dislike her or consider her a reason for war,i've seen so many people who think like you so now it doesn't bother me much.i'm like literally so done with fighting with people on this topic so just let it be and any which ways your post was never solely about Draupadi so just let's stop this.



Seriously Mahi...when will we all get over this 'Andha Ka Putra Andha' n 'Draupadi caused the war'? 😭
And NO dasi said this dialogue either...It's not part of the epic.
But now even comics have included this dialogue... 😭

When will these TV shows n comics stop misleading people? 😭
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Patrarekha

If draupadi was reason for anything that is bhim's brutal killing of dushy who wouldnt hv been so brutal if dushashan hadnt molested draupadi. Thats it. Draupadi was never reason for war. She wanted war for sure but that would hv been of no use if duryodhan agreed to give five villages.
Btw there are more IF
What IF subhadra hadnt slept in middle of Arjun's lesson. What if Abhi new how to return from chakrabyuha



Agreed...I guess Bhima's unconditional love for Draupadi made him lose control...If Duryodhan had given back the land, then none of Draupadi's yelling, cursing and shouting would have been able to cause the war.

About the last part...I have heard some people blaming Subhadra for Abhimanyu's death...
Even a pure and innocent character like Subhadra is not spared... 😭 I dont think Subhadra's falling asleep had anything to do with it...Could the mentors not teach Abhimanyu to come out of Chakravyuh AFTER he was born? 😭
I somehow cannot accept all these theories that some deeds done in innocence can cause something so bad..


On a personal note...Could u tell me exactly why you are never a fan of Draupadi?
This is not any kind of personal attack... 😊
I was just analyzing her character n trying to understand y so many people dont like her...though I find nothing SO bad in her, despite her flaws. U may answer me in PM...in details.
I dont want to turn this thread into another Draupadi discussion thread... 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Mahima, Nonie & others

There was 1 animated Mahabharat movie which had actors like Ajay Devgan, Anil Kapoor, Amitabh Bachchan, etc. In that animated Mahabharat, Draupadi was shown as a arrogant woman and as a character whom people watching the movie will hate. Looking at the animated Mahabharat movie, people will feel like Draupadi is the main reason behind the war. Draupadi insulted Duryodhan by saying "andhe ka putr andha" in that movie too

Still looking at the posts here, my opinion might change. From what I have noticed here and in Facebook, female fans of Mahabharat like Draupadi whereas male fans of Mahabharat consider Draupadi as 1 of the main reasons for the war
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: amritat



Seriously Mahi...when will we all get over this 'Andha Ka Putra Andha' n 'Draupadi caused the war'? 😭
And NO dasi said this dialogue either...It's not part of the epic.
But now even comics have included this dialogue... 😭

When will these TV shows n comics stop misleading people? 😭


oh i'm sorry then actually i have absolutely no knowledge about mahabharat and all,the only person whom i know about is draupadi as i'm only interested in her so i only bother to read articles and all other stuff about draupadi only. so i read on quora somewhere that a dasi said these words!
And about the andhe ka putra andha comment i'm literally sick and tired by explaing and fighting on this topic! you know that's the reason i hate B.R chopra's portrayal of draupadi it's just because of that series that all most everyone believes that draupadi said those words...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: amit_

Mahima, Nonie & others

There was 1 animated Mahabharat movie which had actors like Ajay Devgan, Anil Kapoor, Amitabh Bachchan, etc. In that animated Mahabharat, Draupadi was shown as a arrogant woman and as a character whom people watching the movie will hate. Looking at the animated Mahabharat movie, people will feel like Draupadi is the main reason behind the war. Draupadi insulted Duryodhan by saying "andhe ka putr andha" in that movie too

Still looking at the posts here, my opinion might change. From what I have noticed here and in Facebook, female fans of Mahabharat like Draupadi whereas male fans of Mahabharat consider Draupadi as 1 of the main reasons for the war



Yes...even I have seen that movie. Vidya Balan had played Draupadi...n believe me, that is the WORST portrayal of Draupadi.
Even I hated that Draupadi to the core n I felt like suing the producers... 😆if only I had the money.

Now coming to fans...well believe me...there are many many women who hate Draupadi(for the same wrong reasons that u dislike her)...n there are quite male fans who like her.
Yes...most Draupadi fans are female...Bcoz strong female characters like her who spoke her mind are often not preferred by Indians, especially men. We Indians are obsessed with goody goody bahus...n the best example is the saas-bahu serials we get to see...All the bahus in today's serials are goody-goody.

Let me tell u...I am a BIG Draupadi fan...I am not saying she was flawless...
Every character had flaws...She had them too.
But MOST of the things that are known to people today about Draupadi are FALSE.

And y do most men consider her as the root cause for Kurukshetra War?

Bcoz most of them havent read the epic...They have acquired their knowledge from these shows n novels...
The epic Draupadi(though not flawless) is quite different from wat she is shown these days...
She had a softer side too...but none of that is shown in the serials...

I hope I have cleared some of ur doubts... 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: amit_

Mahima, Nonie & others

There was 1 animated Mahabharat movie which had actors like Ajay Devgan, Anil Kapoor, Amitabh Bachchan, etc. In that animated Mahabharat, Draupadi was shown as a arrogant woman and as a character whom people watching the movie will hate. Looking at the animated Mahabharat movie, people will feel like Draupadi is the main reason behind the war. Draupadi insulted Duryodhan by saying "andhe ka putr andha" in that movie too

Still looking at the posts here, my opinion might change. From what I have noticed here and in Facebook, female fans of Mahabharat like Draupadi whereas male fans of Mahabharat consider Draupadi as 1 of the main reasons for the war


oh! so you are talking about that movie you know what amit nowadays people make movies without any knowledge,without any sense and you know what happens with such movies? they FLOP on the box office. and that's exactly what happened with that movie. and yes i agree with you anyone who sees that movie will hate draupadi i can say that because i've seen that movie. that movie was senseless. in that movie draupadi insulted duryodhan at ther swayamwar even before duryodhan said a word to her,then duryodhan called draupadi a naagin then draupadi purposely insulted duryodhan so that she could take revenge on him as he called her a naagin you know in short that movie was a crap. don't believe it. i don't know why but people like to show draupadi as the vamp of mahabharata.but at last I would just say that just don't believe that movie it was nonsense I think you've just misunderstood draupadi. You can read the original version or either read articles about draupadi to understand her better but then if you still dislike her then it's completely your choice.)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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From wat I have understood Mahi...Draupadi is a very difficult character to understand and like.

The first reason for that is her polyandry. We can read and enjoy pages after pages on polygamous kings, King Henry VIII's love affairs, Arjun's marriages, etc...but a woman like Draupadi would make most shudder.
That is our hypocrisy n inability to accept equality...We would love to read love stories of Kings n princes falling in love again n again...but if we come across a polyandrous woman, we tend to see elements of prostitution in her.
Polygamous Kings and princes are charming but polyandrous Queens are 'unchaste'...that's how it is.

Next, is her sharp-tongue. People just cant digest a woman who spoke her mind without any hesitation. From wat I know, Draupadi was a very straight forward woman but she rarely talked to people in harsh words without a reason. Everytime, Draupadi had been harsh with her words, she had some reason for it.
Sometimes her Vastraharan...sometimes, Keechak's molestation...sometimes Jaydrath's kidnapping...sometimes her husbands'inaction towards her insults...sometimes her children's death. Under normal conditions,she was a normal woman...The sharp-tongued woman in her came out mainly after Dyut Sabha, when she was being attacked again n again.

Under normal conditions, she was a dutiful wife...a responsible Empress...she served people with her own hands(something which even Duryodhan praises)...was the Finance Minister of Indraprastha...probably shared a great rapport with Abhimanyu, which proves she was a decent step-mother...respected n served Gandhari after the war, etc.
None of this is shown...only 'Andha Ka Putra Andha' n 'Draupadi was the root cause of war'...that is ALL most people know about her. None of her intelligence n achievements are highlighted.

Having said that...I do believe she had flaws...she was too straight-forward...n she was too conscious about her own self-respect n pride n ego. She was too forthright with her approach n didnt know how to manipulate people with syrupy words.
These were her flaws. Nonetheless...she was also very intelligent, learned, intellectual, and in my opinion, large-hearted(but that is strictly, my opinion).

But these positives are rarely shown...on the surface, she comes across as a not so loveable character(bcoz of her polyandry and sharp-tongue) but I feel if people care to read her parts carefully in the epic, and analyze her...they will realize her greatness.

Ved Vyas(whoever he was) probably never showed Draupadi as vile and arrogant...It is the modern scholars who do it.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: amritat

From wat I have understood Mahi...Draupadi is a very difficult character to understand and like.

The first reason for that is her polyandry. We can read and enjoy pages after pages on polygamous kings, King Henry VIII's love affairs, Arjun's marriages, etc...but a woman like Draupadi would make most shudder.
That is our hypocrisy n inability to accept equality...We would love to read love stories of Kings n princes falling in love again n again...but if we come across a polyandrous woman, we tend to see elements of prostitution in her.
Polygamous Kings and princes are charming but polyandrous Queens are 'unchaste'...that's how it is.

Next, is her sharp-tongue. People just cant digest a woman who spoke her mind without any hesitation. From wat I know, Draupadi was a very straight forward woman but she rarely talked to people in harsh words without a reason. Everytime, Draupadi had been harsh with her words, she had some reason for it.
Sometimes her Vastraharan...sometimes, Keechak's molestation...sometimes Jaydrath's kidnapping...sometimes her husbands'inaction towards her insults...sometimes her children's death. Under normal conditions,she was a normal woman...The sharp-tongued woman in her came out mainly after Dyut Sabha, when she was being attacked again n again.

Under normal conditions, she was a dutiful wife...a responsible Empress...she served people with her own hands(something which even Duryodhan praises)...was the Finance Minister of Indraprastha...probably shared a great rapport with Abhimanyu, which proves she was a decent step-mother...respected n served Gandhari after the war, etc.
None of this is shown...only 'Andha Ka Putra Andha' n 'Draupadi was the root cause of war'...that is ALL most people know about her. None of her intelligence n achievements are highlighted.

Having said that...I do believe she had flaws...she was too straight-forward...n she was too conscious about her own self-respect n pride n ego. She was too forthright with her approach n didnt know how to manipulate people with syrupy words.
These were her flaws. Nonetheless...she was also very intelligent, learned, intellectual, and in my opinion, large-hearted(but that is strictly, my opinion).

But these positives are rarely shown...on the surface, she comes across as a not so loveable character(bcoz of her polyandry and sharp-tongue) but I feel if people care to read her parts carefully in the epic, and analyze her...they will realize her greatness.

Ved Vyas(whoever he was) probably never showed Draupadi as vile and arrogant...It is the modern scholars who do it.


i can't agree with you more. and besides all the reasons you've mentioned according to my own experiences of what i've seen while talking to some people is that some people also don't like draupadi because she insulted karna like most of the people i've talked to hates her for this reason. i dunno why people hate her for this and ok hating is normal but why do they abuse her for this reason? and one more reason which i think that some group of people doesn't like her is because they think draupadi is given more importance then the other wives of pandavas,i'm sorry to say but i've seen subhadra and chitrangada fans doing this. i know it's a weird reason but i feel some people hate draupadi just because ArDi is a popular couple. weird mentality it is what i think that people don't like OS on a husband-wife. Anyways the main reason for hating draupadi still remains her marriage to the pandavas. some people hate her just because she married 5 men i dunno why aren't pandavas criticised for sharing a woman between each other but draupadi is abused b'coz she married them. i just hate this mentality where a girl who is married to 5 men called unchaste,s**t but a man who marries multiple times is considered a hero and so charming. i just hate this. And know what some people actually think that draupadi was like a typical ekta kapoor vamp who always plotted against the entire kuruvansh.i'm so bored by such people like seriously...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Reported last comment there was absolute no reason to bring subhadra and chitrangada fans . They are anyway minority. Otherwise on other hand it can be said also how ardi fans project subhadra as selfish or stupid girl. Her love is one sided. In show and some so called novel its shown too to pave way for ardi. And about chitrangada its held as political alliance by ardi fans when that was absolute wrong. So when draupadi herself was not responsible for other wives not getting more importance. There can be people who feel for other wives. And obviously they wont be fond of draupadi.
Same reason applied for karna fans. Be it interpolation or having reasons rejecting a warrior basis of caste is a big insult under any circumstances. Earlier it had been discussed how it could be avoided by drupad and dhristadyumna by making rule for kshatriya and brahmin to be only contestants. But anyway that not happened so its very normal karna fans will blame her for that.
Why is not karna hated for insulting her? When there was also debate that what exactly karna said?
And not everyone likes ardi. MB is not about only ardi. But that doesnt mean ardi lovers are stopped showing their love.
So ii think every people have like and dislike of own. Have reason to like or dislike someone. So it was not needed to bring fans here.
Like amrita pointed out some reason why people hate her without bringing fans here too fans could have been avoided from mocking and taunting. Coz other side too have lot to say.

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