What could Shomi, Swara and even Laksh have to gain hurting ragini?

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Tejaswini Wenham

@tejaswiniwenham

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Posted: 10 years ago

Hey peeps

So the recent by the by in the grapevine is that Shekhar will blame Shomi for Ragini's accident thinking that she schemed in Swarya's interest. From where I see him standing, as a father, I would be furious at everyone for that would be for an hour or two tops. then i'd calm down and apologize to all maybe with the exception of Laksh maybe. But once calm I would still hear him out. But it seems like Shekhar will be under the impression that not only does Laksh love Swara but them including Shomi were making plans to protect Swara and Laksh's budding whatever, rather than trying to stop ragini's life from becoming a big joke. Now my question is, why would you think that Shekhar?!? Lets forget about Laksh for a bit, what could Shomi and Swara have to gain from trying to hurt ragini? if Swara wanted laksh then clearly she can just be like- lets go and Laksh would be like hells ya. Shomi had actively raised this topic- is laksh marrying ragini under pressure, it was dadi who stopped her from talking about this everytime, even asserting that she had no right over ragini's life. If Shomi knew about Swarya and was trying to manipulate surely she could've just told him that Laksh loves Swara in private and stopped the ragya forced marriage non-sense right there? what would she gain by distancing Ragini from herself other than make her already precarious position in the gadodia household worse? As a matter of fact what could she gain from Swarya at all? the maheswaris won't accept swara, she knows that, and laksh has no money so its not like she's ensuring her own daughter's secure future. then what?!? and what would swara gain from playing this engagement game? lose her love interest and her sister? and laksh, he gains a nurse for his brother but what about himself?

please do sound off below. constructive opinions and speculations pls! if you have a far off speculation that noone has ever heard of, then pls give the link of where you came across spoilers that lead you to believe as such.

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matreyee

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Posted: 10 years ago

gr8 post di...Shekhar's sudden sudden hostility towards shomi and swara is obviously not justifiable however we can try and analyse as to why he is thinking in this manner. As u said his instant reaction will definitely not b so logical..seeing ur daughter is a critical condition can cause anyone to go off track. Shekhar is not thinking rationally and unless ragini recovers we should probably not expect him to either...All the points u have mentioned are correct ..no way is shomi going to gain anything from hurting ragini or by achieving a swaraya wedding..and yes if swara wanted lakshya she would not really have to try. But u r on the verge of losing ur daughter all these thoughts do not come into ur mind and ur thinking is driven by emotions . this accident will give us a clear insight of shomi and shekhar's relationship..it will indicate that their relationship too needs sum development...shomi and shekhar might have known each other for a very long time but from shekhar's side trust is still an issue. they have just started sharing their lives and only recently has ragini become a part of Shomi's life. for us viewers we can see that Shomi does not distinguish between ragini and sawra...however for shekhar shomi is still ragini's step mother Also Shekhar is not aware of the swaraya equation..he does not know that its lakshya who is pursuing Swara and not the other way round. Now if one day u got to know that one of ur daughter is hitting on the guy who was supposedly going to marry ur other a daughter u did b furious. What shekhar knows is that both swara and shomi were aware how deeply ragini loved lakshya yet still Swara had an affair with him and shomi supported it. u see he is seeing things from a complete different angle plus i think dadi will definitely play her part in ruining things further. Shekhar's reaction r a outcome of his lack of trust in Shomi(him thinking she is bias towards swara) ,dadi's poisonous thoughts, ignorance towards swaraya's love story and the severe condition of ragini. if he talks things out the picture will b clearer but when ur daughter is on the death bed having a rational discussion is the last thing on anyone's mind.

Edited by matreyee - 10 years ago

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Tejaswini Wenham

@tejaswiniwenham

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: matreyee
gr8 post di...Shekhar's sudden sudden hostility towards shomi and swara is obviously not justifiable however we can try and analyse as to why he is thinking in this manner. As u said his instant reaction will definitely not b so logical..seeing ur daughter is a critical condition can cause anyone to go off track. Shekhar is not thinking rationally and unless ragini recovers we should probably not expect him to either...All the points u have mentioned are correct ..no way is shomi going to gain anything from hurting ragini or by achieving a swaraya wedding..and yes if swara wanted lakshya she would not really have to try. But u r on the verge of losing ur daughter all these thoughts do not come into ur mind and ur thinking is driven by emotions . this accident will give us a clear insight of shomi and shekhar's relationship..it will indicate that their relationship too needs sum development...shomi and shekhar might have known each other for a very long time but from shekhar's side trust is still an issue.
You know what? I always thought that to be true. Ive always kind of tried to think of the Shekhar-Shomi equation from the standpoint of my own separated parents. If they ever did get back together (god forbid) then that would be overcoming years worth of deep seated mistrust and failure to live upto the others expectations. and it CANT b a fairytale. but you know whats interesting? the trust issues should be from Shomi's side rather than Shekhar's cos she's the one whose trust got broken. Yet, funnily enough it seems like the opposite, Shomi seems try extra hard to live upto Shekhar's expectations and Shekhar is having trust issues. I think Shomi's resilience, to me, reflects a subconscious feeling of inadequacy on her part. To some extent I think thats why Swara overcompensates and is so over-confident and such a know-it-all. its like a defense mechanism and i thought it was well-reflected in her handling of Laksh, particularly when she says- 'I CANT love you' rather than 'I DONT love you'. Interesting (or I'm assigning layers to characters where it doesn't actually exist. lol)

they have just started sharing their lives and only recently has ragini become a part of Shomi's life. for us viewers we can see that Shomi does not distinguish between ragini and sawra...however for shekhar shomi is still ragini's step mother

No i agree, but i think Shomi has always had a very protective nature towards Ragini. Its not a one day story and it was never conditional love on her end for ragini and it didn't depend on whether shekhar married shomi or not. but i can see why this would be a highly manipulatable situation. but then i hope they show shekhar as repentant post ragini not being in critical condition.

Also Shekhar is not aware of the swaraya equation..he does not know that its lakshya who is pursuing Swara and not the other way round. Now if one day u got to know that one of ur daughter is hitting on the guy who was supposedly going to marry ur other a daughter u did b furious. What shekhar knows is that both swara and shomi were aware how deeply ragini loved lakshya yet still Swara had an affair with him and shomi supported it. u see he is seeing things from a complete different angle plus i think dadi will definitely play her part in ruining things further.

See this i have a problem with, Swara is also his daughter. i understand he can be angry with her fro not sharing this fact as soon as she found out but if the roles were reversed would he make such a quick assumption about ragini? unless he saw swarya in a passionate embrace (i wish! shipper heart jumping!) he can't make such a character damning assumption about his own child. Again if Swara was having an affair with Laksh, why would she sit by quietly and let laksh marry her sister, surely he knows her well enough to know that she can fight against the world for what believes is her right or the right of the ones she loves? i know this is logic and he's think emotionally but then it just doesn't sit right with me. even if it were true, most parents' emotions would take them towards denial rather than suspecting the character of one of their children. atleast as a mother, i know that my emotional reaction to such a situation (where I'm under the impression that one of my kids are having an affair with the other's fiance) would be denial. but i guess ppl react differently. its fascinating non-the-less.

Shekhar's reaction r a outcome of his lack of trust in Shomi(him thinking she is bias towards swara) ,dadi's poisonous thoughts, ignorance towards swaraya's love story and the severe condition of ragini. if he talks things out the picture will b clearer but when ur daughter is on the death bed have a rational discussion is the last thing on anyone's mind.

ty for you reply Matreyee! always a pleasure discussing with you. i think this particular topic is a very interesting insight to people's emotional response and that really fascinates me!

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Tejaswini Wenham

@tejaswiniwenham

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Sana_DD
Perfect post teju di...
It's so dumb of shekhar blaming them...they are the most sensible characters(not laksh) and they are being blamed...shows that shekhar has the gadodia traits in him...
Coming to laksh I know he is the one at fault...he has played with a lot of people's emotions just for his so called Pagal bhai...but even a guilty should be given at least one chance to put forth his point...
I know Shekhar is a farther..and he'd do anything to protect his daughter..n the anger towards laksh is justified...but of what I hear...he insults laksh..and they are two different things..
I did hope that he of all would understand laksh's situation of being pushed into a loveless marriage...but now due to his daughters accident..all the rational thinking of his will go down the drain..
Which is to some extent justified...who would want to see their daughter in such a situation..

ty sana! ya i agree that shekhar more than anyone should understand where laksh is coming from, i believe it mirrors his decision to marry janki rather than support shomi- both decisions taken with a loved ones life at stake. but i can understand his initial reaction but am hopeful (or as hopeful as a self-acknowledged cynic can be).

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matreyee

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Posted: 10 years ago

''See this i have a problem with, Swara is also his daughter. i understand he can be angry with her fro not sharing this fact as soon as she found out but if the roles were reversed would he make such a quick assumption about ragini? unless he saw swarya in a passionate embrace (i wish! shipper heart jumping!) he can't make such a character damning assumption about his own child. Again if Swara was having an affair with Laksh, why would she sit by quietly and let laksh marry her sister, surely he knows her well enough to know that she can fight against the world for what believes is her right or the right of the ones she loves? i know this is logic and he's think emotionally but then it just doesn't sit right with me. even if it were true, most parents' emotions would take them towards denial rather than suspecting the character of one of their children. atleast as a mother, i know that my emotional reaction to such a situation (where I'm under the impression that one of my kids are having an affair with the other's fiance) would be denial. but i guess ppl react differently. its fascinating non-the-less. ''<<<

what you have stated is absolutely correct any rational parent will trust his or her child and probably b in denial but i think we need to focus on the fact that Shekhar has only recently discovered that Swara is his daughter. Having the same blood does not guarantee a gd understanding of a person's behavior.he knows very little about Swara, only a few months back he had slapped Swara for no logical reason. Yes they have shared the same house but i doubt he has had many interactions with swara in the past to have a clear understanding of her characteristics. this is where the beauty of this show lies just having shomi and shekhar marry each other is not the final destination..they have lot to work on in terms of the relationship equations. how the different relationships r tested because of ragini's accident will give us a clear insight about the bonds which will need development.

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Posted: 10 years ago

I think the fact that his beloved daughter is in danger would definitely take all rational thought out of Shekhar's head and he'll lash out at whoever. I also think Dadi will 100% take the opportunity to fill Shekher's ears against Sumi-Swara. And because he'd be in such a volatile and emotional state, he'd actually get swayed by her words?

But yes, Sumi can definitely bring up that she tried to tell him beforehand that RagYa were not a good match. I also liked what matreyee (sorry don't know your name) had to say about this being a test for ShekSu. I think their relationship is definitely on very unstable ground. They may have loved each other and known each other, but they definitely have been seperated for years and have changed as well. There has to be some conflict and getting to know each other again. In general though, I still think Sumi deserves better than Shekher -- his intiail rejection of her and the Bose family subsequent insult was just terrible and unjustifiable in my eyes. He just stood there and let Dadi say whatever, he could've told her to shut up and then tell Sumi is was over and then go home. Still annoyed over that -- I think Sumi should hold that over him. Idk.

Also Teju, can you elaborate what you mean by Sumi feeling inadequate and Swara over-compensating? It sounds very intriguing!

As for your question, yeah if he thinks logically, he could see that SwaSu would have nothing to gain if Ragini got hurt. I feel like Ragini herself would also recognize this fact once she wakes up from her accident? But as for Shekher thinking badly of Laksh, well Laksh has never been on his good side. Plus he knows Laksh kidnapped Swara to hurt her and teach her a lesson. How would Shekher know that Lucky couldn't do the same thing to Ragini (play with her feelings?). We viewers and the Bose family know that Laksh is better than that, but Shekher is already biased against him. So I can see why Shekher would be angry at Laksh.

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Posted: 10 years ago

Tejaswini: The Bose-Gadodia conflict is about Bengali and Marwari communities (one is strictly vegetarian while the other is non-veg). Caste has no role to play here. And Bose isn't a lower caste last name.

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Tejaswini Wenham

@tejaswiniwenham

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: krystal_watz
Tejaswini: The Bose-Gadodia conflict is about Bengali and Marwari communities (one is strictly vegetarian while the other is non-veg). Caste has no role to play here. And Bose isn't a lower caste last name.

Ahhh...I know that. I think you misunderstand dear. The caste system was suppose to be a comparison of psychology. It was a comparison to clarify that just like in order for a caste system to exist it's important that lower caste ppl actually believe that higher caste ppl are higher up on the list to moksha. Similarly, I think for dadi to have gotten away with all these years of abuse Shomi on some level needed to believe that shekhars family is somehow too good for her and that she's not good enough. That's all.

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Posted: 10 years ago

I see what you mean. But I don't think Sumi actually considers herself inferior, she just seems to be too aware and conscious of the Gadodias' (and Maheshwaris') hatred for/discomfiture with her. And the reason why she never retaliated all these years, seemed to me like the "not dignifying low comments by replying to them" kind. Though why she decided to stay at her tormentor's place is beyond me. Maybe your theory stands vindicated here. 😆

Anyway, nice to meet you.

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Tejaswini Wenham

@tejaswiniwenham

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: krystal_watz
I see what you mean. But I don't think Sumi actually considers herself inferior, she just seems to be too aware and conscious of the Gadodias' (and Maheshwaris') hatred for/discomfiture with her. And the reason why she never retaliated all these years, seemed to me like the "not dignifying low comments by replying to them" kind. Though why she decided to stay at her tormentor's place is beyond me. Maybe your theory stands vindicated here. 😆

Anyway, nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you too. I was only speculating ofcourse. Even if it is a thought in her somewhere, it's a very deeply subconscious one. Not something she actively thinks though.

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