Jaya Bachchan serious on Nirbhaya Documentary in Rajya Sabha - Page 4

Originally posted by: Franco

As far as I know people serving terms in prison can appear in TV Shows , Movies and even write books as long as they don't profit from it.

I highly doubt anyone will agree to any of that when they are in demand and they can get paid.

http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/10/15/teressa-giudice-jail-book-deal-writing-tell-all/

Originally posted by: firework

It makes a lot more sense for a scientist to research and understand the mindset of rapists than the public. I really don't think the public gains anything by watching a rapist for a few minutes. I personally did not understand his mindset at all. Maybe you understood his mindset.

The problem with such interviews is someone who thinks like a rapist may feel encouraged after watching him. Not only has this documentary caused quite a stir, but it seems as though he got paid for the interview too.

Honestly for me it was very eye opening. It told me that he wasn't the exception but rather the norm in how certain sections of society think. I still cannot wrap my mind around what that lawyer said. I can believe that he thinks the way he does, but to have enough confidence to say such things on camera means he has no concerns or worries about his own society, his own neighbors, his own colleagues turning against him. It's like how all racists at least put up a faade of not being racist in front of others. The lawyers felt no need for such facades. I suppose I should be grateful for his honesty because it wiped away everyone else's naivete about educated men.

The part about the rapist having been paid is very bothersome yes.

Blaming Leslie or making conspiracy theories will not help.

Truth is that the Bar Council acted against those lawyers only after this documentary.

Indian Feminist and women's rights groups are writing again on these issues after this documentary. Kafila has a detailed piece in which rape survivors have shared more experiences with defense lawyers and how they shame the victim to such an extent that she either kills herself or takes back the case.

Why these issues were left in recent times? Why they got reignited only now? Why did debate and discourse on this fizzle out in recent times? I don't deny there was lot of action and uproar after this case in India.

The co producer of the docu is also an Indian. Why and how is it still being turned into a white woman vs India fight?

I asked in other thread and I ask again, why it took Bar Council to act only NOW?

BTW UNICEF has declared India among the worst countries for girl child. Now what? Ban UNICEF also? Or deny it as agenda to defame India?

Originally posted by: IAmLuvBolly

Honestly for me it was very eye opening. It told me that he wasn't the exception but rather the norm in how certain sections of society think. I still cannot wrap my mind around what that lawyer said. I can believe that he thinks the way he does, but to have enough confidence to say such things on camera means he has no concerns or worries about his own society, his own neighbors, his own colleagues turning against him. It's like how all racists at least put up a faade of not being racist in front of others. The lawyers felt no need for such facades. I suppose I should be grateful for his honesty because it wiped away everyone else's naivete about educated men.

The part about the rapist having been paid is very bothersome yes.

I think it depends on the upbringing. There are educated men who are very sympathetic towards women, but there are educated men (some professors in my experience) who share the same mentality as the defense lawyer. It is surprising when you encounter such people at first, because you assume since they are educated they shouldn't have this mindset, but they do. I'm not sure if their mindset can be changed. It seems very fixed to me, and they also hang out a lot with people who have the same mindset as them. They can't stand independent, strong headed, rebellious women at all. They expect women to be extremely meek and submissive. In other words a doormat.

Originally posted by: firework

I think it depends on the upbringing. There are educated men who are very sympathetic towards women, but there are educated men (some professors in my experience) who share the same mentality as the defense lawyer. It is surprising when you encounter such people at first, because you assume since they are educated they shouldn't have this mindset, but they do. I'm not sure if their mindset can be changed. It seems very fixed to me, and they also hang out a lot with people who have the same mindset as them. They can't stand independent, strong headed, rebellious women at all. They expect women to be extremely meek and submissive. In other words a doormat.

@ your whole post, very true.

@bold: I suppose it depends on age too. In case of the defense lawyers probably not because they seemed older and from a different generation. Like you said, it's very fixed.

Overall nothing is going to get fixed overnight. But hopefully this will bring out a change in the education system, in the way new fathers and young brothers and young husbands will think. This is definitely something that will take a generation or two.

Originally posted by: IAmLuvBolly

Just watched Jaya's interview and frankly she sounds incredibly ignorant.

It almost sounds like she is saying it is shameful if rape victims talk about what happened to them. She kept asking why was this documentary made, what was the point. Well, the maker explained why she made it. Then she asked why was the victim's name revealed. Joyti Singh's parents very clearly said that they want the world to know their daughter's name because they are proud of her and they want to world to know specifically who this crime happened to. She asked what good comes from interviewing the rapist? Really? She doesn't think it is important for people to understand not just how these rapists think but how their educated lawyers think?

And to top it all, she sounded very racist by saying there was no need for "this gori" to come and make this video, and how "if it needed to be made" we have sensitive filmmakers in India who can do this.

I really genuinely hope the media rakes her over the coals for this!!!

Chappadganju! 😆

The Bachchans entertain goras and have no qualms receiving honours from them. Her devar ji has huge business among goras in UK.

They gloat over Millennium star titles awarded to Amitabh by BBC.

But bark against goras now? What hypocrisy! 🤢

The last statement says it all. The main grouse is why we didn't make such a docu! Our filmmakers are capable enough!

I said it in another thread that same Times Now would be playing it 24/7 over several weeks with shouting commentary from Arnab had they made this!

Though this docu has an Indian co producer and tied up with NDTV, but issue is that government also has agenda against NDTV. They were able to influence other channels and their main editors through takeovers by their corporate allies. But it seems they couldn't control NDTV. Hence even greater outrage against the documentary. (NDTV and BJP problem. NDTV and Times Now rivals).

NDTV ran a blank screen for an hour yesterday as a mark of protest. Nice way to protest against the government.

Documentary is trending and screenshots being shared all over FB, Twitter, Tumblr and Instagram. HT reported it even got screened at a village near Agra. Epic backfire for the ban!

BTW BJP leader has said we should ban Gmail and Yahoo also. Good luck to them in their ban spree.

Nothing wrong in the video. Wrong is sitting idle. What they have been doing so far.

Jaya should honestly learn a little from Kirron Kher. What Kirron said about the issue was bang on right!