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Posted: 10 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Arshics

Santhi, Shyamala, Happy,


Happy, as for dialect, Rudra has the dialect of the boy on the streets, where as Shiva and balivesh have the educated upper cast hindi.

He did use ,the word virlon, virla meaning very very rare person.



Thanks Arshi.

The corresponding 'viralam' meaning rare/rarely is, contrarily, used quite commonly in Malayalam 😊

Had never before heard anybody using it in Hindi, so could not trust my ears.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arshics

difficult words today:

Niyati - destiny

Prarabdh - the accumulated karmas of our past life, that we have to fulfill in this birth


yes it's time...

Time for RUDRA to learn of his niyati

And his prarabdh - that being a Rakshak is what he was born for

And the Garuda chinha was a vardaan from the Almighty and not a curse as Rudra believed

the scene where rudra learns of the significance of Garuda chinha, was well done

To take in and accept information that was so huge, Rudra took surprisingly little time. But then he has always been that way, stoic in the face of biggest of things that have happened to him!

Specially impactful was the part where Shiva shows rudra that the chinha can't be burnt away.

But the real scene of the day was the reunion of Dadi and shiva

They were hesitant, yet eager, awkward yet warm, happy to be together, yet with a distance between

For them as if the 24 years had never happened, and they were back where they had left off...

I loved their tentative, stilted hug, I loved the argument soon after, I loved the composed way in which

Shiva met Sahdev, Rudra is so like him - undemonstrative!


So there are 7 nagas, for the 7 Garudas - they are enemies as per our mythology also,

So it's fitting that nagas have been ready and waiting for Mahakumbh when all the 7 Garudas will come together and use it as a perfect opportunity for revenge!

An interesting point - Nanu was wearing his fake bandages again in the presence of his mouni guru!

The precap was again exciting, it was for the whole of next week I suppose and not just Monday


It was a superlative week, and each day was very different from the previous one

We had the techno gizmo day

We had the highly emotional day

We had the day of seperation

The day of reunion

THe day of losing and finding again,...


This week not a single dull moment !!!!!

Today was a mellow episode

Gentle and smooth and well made!

The nagas scene - had the right impact of mystery!




Wonderful post 👏
I loved all the meetings of Shiva with Rudra, Sahdev and Dadi
Each showed the nuances of different relations just by their reactions

Rudra ran and clung to Shiva like he had turned back the child of 4. It was the cry of a child who had suffered a lot withstood it all but when he finally met one man with whom he could let go of himself he clung to Shiva and sobbed his heart out. Shiva was crying with Rudra for the lost 24 years, for relief at finally meeting his son.

Shiva Sahdev hug was total trust and friendship where nothing was needed to be said. Sahdev is kinda rusticl while Shiva is certainly not, he has a polish and aura of knowledge which he wears easily. That hug was of two friends.

Shiva even when he was hugging Sahdev it was kinda he had kept the best for the last, that hug with Sahdev also gave him a control on his emotions, when he hugged Dadi. It was poignant but also of two adults who did not need each other. For all her isolation of 24 years Dadi is a strong woman and she let it know to Shiva who is the boss!

Dadi expected Shiva to just accept the gifts given to their Panth as a boon and follow the path of service, not analyze them not ever to study and dissect them.
Shiva does not feel he did anything wrong cos even when he cherishes the gifts he wants to learn them the whys and hows. If Shiva had not tried to study and analyze them he would not have learnt of the 7 Garudas right?

PS : I felt bit bad seeing the TRPs. I am loving MK it is one of the best serials on tv now, why don't such serials bring higher TRPs? If they don't we will be forever stuck with sbs sagas Hope TRPs get higher.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: happychappy

The Siva-Rudr reunion scene was the undoubted highlight of Thursday's episode for me... I've re-watched it a couple of times, and it's a classic. (I did not much care for the Demo segment where Siva torches his tamper-proof garud chhinn but that is a minor quibble I'm getting over with, right away.)

For all that we have been looking forward to the scene because of our involvement in the plot, the scene was so well-designed and executed that it is highly enjoyable on a stand-alone basis. The "choreography" and use of space was almost like it was a stage performance, and Gautam Rode's performance had shades of "abhinaya" so brilliant it reminded me of Kathakali artistes doing a demo of the 'karuna rasa' - not to say that any of it was overdone in any way.

The spot where they meet, in the darkness of the old haveli, I thought, signified that while they are father & son, neither really knows much about what the other has been through in the intervening years... The first few shots of their faces had a chiaroscuro effect with almost half of the face obscured by the shadows... a very effective tool for highlighting the intense emotions that both characters are going through. And also very interesting in the way it was "choreographed", with first one, and then the other taking the limelight.


For the first time in 24 years, Rudr unburdens himself, as you would only do with a parent - every torment and sorrow was unpacked, and you could only see the Child who wants his Baba to take away all his pain. (If anyone had any lingering doubts about GR's huge talent, they should all have been put to rest last week...) He stalls Siva's feeble attempts to get a word in edge-wise until his own litany of loss is exhausted! It's only when he crosses the lakshman rekha and says "manhoos chhinn" that Siva the Parent decides he's heard enough and hushes him! Not one more word, he says. And briefly puts Rudr's sufferings in perspective with a few chosen words - Manish Wadhwa was a class act, with Sivanand a study in dignity, restraint & maturity, and in total contrast to Rudr's unfettered, childlike & innocent outpouring. Both actors outdid themselves, allowing us to enjoy all the fine details of the writing, direction and videography that made it a gem of a scene.

A note about the writing -

I find UN& Co. very deliberate in their use of vocabulary & dialect for each character, so that we get a quick life-sketch of the person as soon as they've spoken a few lines! Siva addresses Rudr as "beta" not bachwa (Maimui) or babuwa (Sahadev) - he uses words like "viral" - did I hear right? when he says "ye nishaan ek sanatan sacchai hai jo viralon ko hi praapt hoti hai" ??? All his speech points to a very erudite man who inspires confidence in his knowledge (even if his own mother thinks he's simply too big for his boots!!) Only that 'parampita' bit stuck out like a sore thumb - sounded more like an import from Christian theology to me...

Rudr's speech on the other hand is always consistent with the surroundings of his childhood devoid of much book learning, but enriched with Maimui's earthy wisdom. At the moment, he is unfamiliar with the mechanics & flourishes of his birth family - he is very much Maimui's child right now. It should be interesting to see how his speech evolves as Sivanand, and of course his Dadi Formidable start to play a larger role in his life...

Parampita is a commonly used phrase for God in North. Many cults and schools use this. 'Param Pita Paramatma'
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@pasumarthisa Thanks, Santhi. That was beyond my ken...😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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My dear Shubha,

Exquisite! You have the eye of a cinematographer and the ear and eye for placement of a fine theatre director. I could not have bettered your take on this fabulous scene if I had tried. In my post of today, I am not even going to try!

I too noted and appreciated the chiaruscuro effect, the half lit faces, which is a very familiar cinematic device, especially in films noirs.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: happychappy

The Siva-Rudr reunion scene was the undoubted highlight of Thursday's episode for me... I've re-watched it a couple of times, and it's a classic. (I did not much care for the Demo segment where Siva torches his tamper-proof garud chhinn but that is a minor quibble I'm getting over with, right away.)

For all that we have been looking forward to the scene because of our involvement in the plot, the scene was so well-designed and executed that it is highly enjoyable on a stand-alone basis. The "choreography" and use of space was almost like it was a stage performance, and Gautam Rode's performance had shades of "abhinaya" so brilliant it reminded me of Kathakali artistes doing a demo of the 'karuna rasa' - not to say that any of it was overdone in any way.

The spot where they meet, in the darkness of the old haveli, I thought, signified that while they are father & son, neither really knows much about what the other has been through in the intervening years... The first few shots of their faces had a chiaroscuro effect with almost half of the face obscured by the shadows... a very effective tool for highlighting the intense emotions that both characters are going through. And also very interesting in the way it was "choreographed", with first one, and then the other taking the limelight.

For the first time in 24 years, Rudr unburdens himself, as you would only do with a parent - every torment and sorrow was unpacked, and you could only see the Child who wants his Baba to take away all his pain. (If anyone had any lingering doubts about GR's huge talent, they should all have been put to rest last week...) He stalls Siva's feeble attempts to get a word in edge-wise until his own litany of loss is exhausted! It's only when he crosses the lakshman rekha and says "manhoos chhinn" that Siva the Parent decides he's heard enough and hushes him! Not one more word, he says. And briefly puts Rudr's sufferings in perspective with a few chosen words - Manish Wadhwa was a class act, with Sivanand a study in dignity, restraint & maturity, and in total contrast to Rudr's unfettered, childlike & innocent outpouring. Both actors outdid themselves, allowing us to enjoy all the fine details of the writing, direction and videography that made it a gem of a scene.

A note about the writing -

I find UN& Co. very deliberate in their use of vocabulary & dialect for each character, so that we get a quick life-sketch of the person as soon as they've spoken a few lines! Siva addresses Rudr as "beta" not bachwa (Maimui) or babuwa (Sahadev) - he uses words like "viral" - did I hear right? when he says "ye nishaan ek sanatan sacchai hai jo viralon ko hi praapt hoti hai" ??? All his speech points to a very erudite man who inspires confidence in his knowledge (even if his own mother thinks he's simply too big for his boots!!) Only that 'parampita' bit stuck out like a sore thumb - sounded more like an import from Christian theology to me...

Rudr's speech on the other hand is always consistent with the surroundings of his childhood devoid of much book learning, but enriched with Maimui's earthy wisdom. At the moment, he is unfamiliar with the mechanics & flourishes of his birth family - he is very much Maimui's child right now. It should be interesting to see how his speech evolves as Sivanand, and of course his Dadi Formidable start to play a larger role in his life...

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Shubha,
Exquisite! You have the eye of a cinematographer and the ear and eye for placement of a fine theatre director. I could not have bettered your take on this fabulous scene if I had tried. In my post of today, I am not even going to try!

I too noted and appreciated the chiaruscuro effect, the half lit faces, which is a very familiar cinematic device, especially in films noirs.

Shyamala

Thanks...😳 I'm glad you like it. Team MK leaves one struggling to express the depth of one's admiration!

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