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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hello, Shyamala. I am very late responding to this post as this has been a hectic week. I felt the need to as your weekly Sunday post is coming up and I have not even watched a single episode of this week including Mayi Mui's death.

I agree with most of what you have said But I think you have been too kind to Maya...As far as I am concerned she must go. I see her as the weakest link of the show given that they are trying to develop a romantic angle with her and Rudra. I hope I am wrong.

I dont' know what to say about Seema Biswas's exit as I understand it has already happened ( plan to catch up this weekend). When you have actors of the caliber of Biswas and Robin Das you assume they are in the show for a long time. I just cannot fathom the reason behind this indecent haste to end Mayi Mui's charachter. All I can think of is that she and Udiya baba were the strings that held Rudra back from his ultimate destination which is the Mahakumbh. In a way Rudra has been set free from this benaam Rishta ( your beautful words not mine)?

I could not help but chuckle at your clever lines about the greek girl who is about to enter the show

"maybe she is No. 3. Let us hope she looks like Diana or Pallas Athena!"
Very very clever Shyamala, given that Athena is known as a shrewd companion of heroes and is the patron goddess of heroic endeavour. Ha ha Brilliant!

Anyways looking forward to your next post in a few hours.
Warm regards
Preeti
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I completely agree that Maya character and relationship with Rudra looks artificial and forced. In one or two episodes they started acting like boyfriend girlfriend. Even in the intro scene Rudra was acting like a hooligan and misbehaving with everyone when she enters in his life. So why is she even attracted to him in the first place? What is the reason of her friendship, he even assaults her so why she was going after him? Very unnatural and far away from reality. The script is definitely flawed, I hope it does not happen again with other characters otherwise this serial will loose its high rating.
I am really missing udiya baba and now going to miss seema biswas in the show. They kept us glued to the screen but this Maya is useless and boring.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thank you, my dear Maitreyee! You Terrible Twins (mentally, even if not actually!😉) are such morale-boosters for me!

I too think that a Dark Maya would be far more interesting than the milquetoast version of a TV serial jheroine that she is being presented as right now. Moreover, I have discovered a point from the Rudra at the police station segment that would buttress the theory that she is not just Balivesh's niece, but also his willing agent.

I remembered her saying, when she is making that call from the police station to her influential Mama, now revealed to be our Sinister Swami, Humne aapko bataya tha na. and then she only gives the details of the Sub-Inspector and the Police Station. She does NOT mention Rudra, or even the trouble he is in.

Despite this, when Swami Balivesh contacts a police higher up (the way in which the SI reacts to the phone call shows clearly that it is from a service senior and not from the Swami) and gets orders passed to release Rudra, clearly the correct details have been passed on by the Swami to the police boss.This can only mean that Maya has discussed Rudra with her Mamaji earlier, which in turn has sinister implications.

If, as seems likely, the apparently scatter-brained Greek girl is also a Rakshak, given that Prof. APG Rao wants to check her credentials from her bag, she must be having an entirely different persona with at least some supenormal powers. Let us see.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: VasusenaRadheya

What a fabulous take on the last week & Monday's episodes Aunty . 🤗 👏 👍🏼

And YESSS !!! We are indeed dancing a gig after knowing who Maya truly is . Her intentions regarding Rudra never seemed very clear & lovey dovey to me . She was too much into him from the very first second & never even minded when Rudra...in his explosive anger...was trying to throttle her . It was soo unnatural...but then absolutely natural if you think she was trying to get into his & Maimui's good books...which she did ! Brilliantly !

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Posted: 10 years ago
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My dear happychappy,

I am very pleased that you liked this one so much, especially the parts about Rudra. And I give you full permission to like the Maya-Rudra passages as much as you want! I loved your crack about Rudra looking the more fatal of the two!

As for the Maya conundrum, while the jury is still out on her,I feel that a Dark Maya would be far more interesting than the milquetoast version of a TV serial heroine that she is being presented as right now. Moreover, I have discovered a point from the Rudra at the police station segment that would buttress the theory that she is not just Balivesh's niece, but also his willing agent.

I remembered her saying, when she is making that call from the police station to her influential Mama, now revealed to be our Sinister Swami, Humne aapko bataya tha na. and then she only gives the details of the Sub-Inspector and the Police Station. She does NOT mention Rudra, or even the trouble he is in.

Despite this, when Swami Balivesh contacts a police higher up (the way in which the SI reacts to the phone call shows clearly that it is from a service senior and not from the Swami) and gets orders passed to release Rudra, clearly the correct details have been passed on by the Swami to the police boss.This can only mean that Maya has discussed Rudra with her Mamaji earlier, which in turn has sinister implications.

If, as seems likely, the apparently scatter-brained Greek girl is also a Rakshak, given that Prof. APG Rao wants to check her credentials from her bag, she must be having an entirely different persona with at least some supernormal powers. Let us see. Poor Ketaki Dave, her thappadiya mata is a frightful caricature, but the veteran Surekha Sikri as Rudra's daadi is quite promising.

Shyamala


Originally posted by: happychappy

Thank you Shyamala, once again for a superb roundup of the "Week in MK!"

I must be a retro kind of person, I rather liked the overall Rudr-Maya theme in Week 4, (and even Punnu Tiwar's shirts!) though the pace of the R-M equation was very space-age for Varanasi! Ignoring such nuances, I especialy loved that song picturisation - some excellently framed shots in there! 😊


Nevertheless, am as much in the dark as anybody else about whether Maya will be femme fatale (at the moment Rudr definitely looks the more fatal of the two! 😆) or gold-plated heroine.


About GR's portrayal of the adult Rudr, your beautifully worded comments in Blue...are spot on!! Knowing what the actor is capable of, the first few days were a major puzzle...But later things got Much Better, thank you MrBabbal for small mercies... Re-reading your comments, it also seems clearer why MaiMui had to go, for Rudr would never have gone to Allahabad otherwise, and that is an inevitable progression?


About the teen Rudr's premonition actually coming real in MaiMui's death by Horror, that was a masterful touch by the writer... Hats Off to Mr Naithani!

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Posted: 10 years ago
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My dearest Kunchu,

I am so pleased that you are staying with me and with Mahakumbh, but very sorry that you are so stressed out at work. Perhaps, as you say, this show can be a useful diversion.

I agree with all the points you have made here, and as for the Maya conundrum, do see my response to happychappy above. It can go either way, or first one way, as a negative character, and then switch to the positive side, though I am sure she is not a Rakshak.

The adult Charles is very disappointing in every possible way, and I only hope the other 5 are better cast! The Greek girl is clearly No.3, and her goofiness is put on as protective camouflage.

My knee still makes it difficult for me to write a post at one stretch, and the same goes for these replies,which is why I am finishing those for last Sunday's post only this Saturday!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: kunchu

HI Aunty

I had missed it as I never got the PM for some unknown reason. Thanks you mentioned it in your reply.
Past one week was crazy for me, with work, stress and more stress. But still I took some time out to watch the episodes. It was never gone waste.
Missed the young Sidharth a lot, but then the elder Rudra was a rough and tough guy. His anger was always at the tip of his nose, but sometimes I felt it was easier to see the silent, calm and thoughtful younger version than this volcano-at-the edge.
But Gautam brought in his edge to the character and is praise worthy.
My doubt on Maya seems to get a support with the precap. She may be unknown to her uncle's ways, but I think she was planted unknowingly/ knowingly.
I missed the child cast, but again waiting for more to compare.
Mai Mui is about to leave, and thats terrible. Her scenes were so good and natural.
Even I had doubt on the DNA. Superhuman power found in DNA?? Is that possible? Patha ni. [It reminded me of an Indian crime base show where an injection was made to change human DNA to monster's and another for vice verse, which I found hilarious. DNA is not a rope to untie and tie back.]
Still as you said, its acceptable in this thriller story, which is going great for me.
APG Rao, I am not sure if he is on good/bad side. Was he protecting Charles or saving for the later.
I still wish to see the 7 Garudas having importance.
See you later mam,
kunchu

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Posted: 10 years ago
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My dear Arshi,

I see that we continue to be more or less on the same wavelength all thru, especially re: Maya - your phrasing there is lovely - and as for the adult Punnu and Charles, I have already said exactly the same thing in this post. Of the two, Charles is worse, especially since he will have a more significant role as one of the Rakshaks.

As for the Cardinal and the so-called Swami, neither is at all religious in the real sense of the word. They are just conscienceless and ruthless manipulators of all around them, and of the two, Balivesh seems to be the worse. The Cardinal at least says that he wants to benefit very large numbers of people, whereas Balivesh, who is more overtly a religious leader, seems to want nothing but raw power thru the amrit, at least so far as we know right now.

Of course the Swami and the Polish lot are in cahoots right now, with each ready to cheat the other and even to cut the other's throat if need be. For it is a marriage of convenience, with all that the term implies!

Moreover, the power equation between them seems a bit lopsided, as Balivesh deals only with Grierson, and that too not as a superior but as an equal, whereas the Cardinal is clearly Grierson's boss. It would be interesting to see how the aloof, patrician Cardinal interacts with the Swami when he lands up for the Mahakumbh. Interestingly, the Cardinal treats Shivanand as an intellectual equal, and as someone he admires and respects, regardless of the fact that they are on opposite sides of the fence. He is clearly a sound judge of men.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Arshics

100% agree with you, esp about Maya! She doesn't fit in with the characteristics her name depict - that of someone mysteriously enchanting and someone irresistibly alluring, who entrances Rudra!

And the elders disappoint, both punnu and Charles. They do not have the punch their child actors had.

The swami and the bishop being hand in glove has a message - religious leaders all over the world are seeking self power, and use their positions to further their own ambitions, so their being hand in glove - not surprising!

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Posted: 10 years ago
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My dear Preeti,

Hallelujah! At last someone spotted the Pallas Athena bit! Thank you, my dear!

As for Maya, as she is not going anywhere any time soon, I suppose we will have to endure her. In fact, as I have noted above, I would clearly prefer her as a Dark Lady (not Shakespeare's Dark Lady of the sonnets!) to having this unconvincing cross between a 21st century female and the pattern card TV serial heroine. But I am not at all sure what Utkarsh has in mind.

I have, however, been doing a spot of sleuthing and have unearthed what looks like a fairly convincing clue.

This relates to the part when Rudra was held at the police station segment, and it would buttress the theory that she is not just Balivesh's niece, but also his willing agent. I remembered her saying, when she is making that call from the police station to her influential Mama, now revealed to be our Sinister Swami, Humne aapko bataya tha na. and then she only gives the details of the Sub-Inspector and the Police Station. She does NOT mention Rudra, or even the trouble he is in.

Despite this, when Swami Balivesh contacts a police higher up (the way in which the SI reacts to the phone call shows clearly that it is from a service senior and not from the Swami) and gets orders passed to release Rudra, clearly the correct details have been passed on by the Swami to the police boss.This can only mean that Maya has discussed Rudra with her Mamaji earlier, which in turn has sinister implications.

As for Maimuyi's unnecessarily brutal and abrupt passing, I think it will prove to be a major scripting mistake. Rudra could have been persuaded to go to the Mahakumbh some other way, surely, with her in tow. What was strange was the death scene this time lacked the emotional pull and gut-wrenching (except in a ghastly, literal sense, which too was totally avoidable) quality that I had expected, as you would have seen from my minipost on page 5. Well, now we have to fall back on Dadimaa Surekha Sikri to fill the emotional void, not only inside Rudra but us as well.

The other great disappointment is the adult Charles. Terrible. Well, let us see how things pan out.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Coolpree

Hello, Shyamala. I am very late responding to this post as this has been a hectic week. I felt the need to as your weekly Sunday post is coming up and I have not even watched a single episode of this week including Mayi Mui's death.

I agree with most of what you have said But I think you have been too kind to Maya...As far as I am concerned she must go. I see her as the weakest link of the show given that they are trying to develop a romantic angle with her and Rudra. I hope I am wrong.

I dont' know what to say about Seema Biswas's exit as I understand it has already happened ( plan to catch up this weekend). When you have actors of the caliber of Biswas and Robin Das you assume they are in the show for a long time. I just cannot fathom the reason behind this indecent haste to end Mayi Mui's charachter. All I can think of is that she and Udiya baba were the strings that held Rudra back from his ultimate destination which is the Mahakumbh. In a way Rudra has been set free from this benaam Rishta ( your beautful words not mine)?

I could not help but chuckle at your clever lines about the greek girl who is about to enter the show

"maybe she is No. 3. Let us hope she looks like Diana or Pallas Athena!"
Very very clever Shyamala, given that Athena is known as a shrewd companion of heroes and is the patron goddess of heroic endeavour. Ha ha Brilliant!

Anyways looking forward to your next post in a few hours.
Warm regards
Preeti

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Posted: 10 years ago
#68
I am delighted to see that you agree so strongly with me on this Maya-Rudra angle. One can at least explain it from her side if she is a Dark Force in willing league with Balivesh, but one cannot explain it from his side at all. And if the writer hopes that she will be a replacement for Maimuyi in any sense of the term is a pipe dream.

I have more hopes of Surekha Sikri, Rudra's daadi, filling the emotional gap left by Maimuyi's being torn away so abruptly. Let us see. She is a very experienced and talented actress.

For now, I will have to cope with the withdrawal symptoms for Maimuyi!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: mgarg75

I completely agree that Maya character and relationship with Rudra looks artificial and forced. In one or two episodes they started acting like boyfriend girlfriend. Even in the intro scene Rudra was acting like a hooligan and misbehaving with everyone when she enters in his life. So why is she even attracted to him in the first place? What is the reason of her friendship, he even assaults her so why she was going after him? Very unnatural and far away from reality. The script is definitely flawed, I hope it does not happen again with other characters otherwise this serial will loose its high rating.
I am really missing udiya baba and now going to miss seema biswas in the show. They kept us glued to the screen but this Maya is useless and boring.

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