Meandering Musings on Mughal Relations - Page 13

Wow your post was an interesting take on the show!! One that I hadn't even thought to look at from such a brilliant perspective!! I needed something to hold on to and your post may be an inspiration to hang in there!! These various relationships, politics and key characters show that our show is more nuanced and complex than most and our audience is so amazingly perspective to pick up on it!! Well done I applaud you and your point of view👏👏👏

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Lasya,

I didn't even realize you were away, considering I keep going away from the forum myself. 😆 But good to know you will be around here.

btw, what's RDC camp?

You read all those 70 pages - wonderful 👏! I am embarrassed to admit I haven't read many pages from my own threads. 😕

Good luck for your sem and yeah, me too reading only WUs. I can bet there will hardly be any good episodes in terms of highlighting JJ love story hereafter.

Originally posted by: realitybites

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Abhay, its heartening to see that even from a male perspective, the baby blame was obnoxious. The ideation itself is obtuse and condemnable and unfortunate that it came from women writers. It should have NOT been thought. There could have been simple way to show that the duo decided to give each other space out of melancholy. See on one hand you show the blame is caused by pleasure from one person then its contradictory to show the same pleasure from another person giving you solace. It makes the approach towards relationship ribald. You have rightly pointed out how is Jodha beloved of Jalal, if this is the horrendous treatment meted out to her?😲 Ruq and Salima are better off, not being the beloved😆😆. The whole period of 3 years? is another perplexing and horrible idea. 🤢

Moreover, seeing the influence of TV on women, it sent a very wrong message. All this while the makers showed Jodha as passive participant in the intimacy area and once when they showed her becoming active, she gets blamed for it from Jalal who always wanted her to be active?😒. Now take the hidden message sent across. Isn't this stereotypical?

The show got ruined from the baby blame and guess its stooping to newer lows with Afeem and other stuff

Lavanya,

It is not only from my perspective, but i have many on same terms who used to watch this show. Can we imagine a father blaming a mother for the twins death.?. This is a simple question.
I made this LONG post that time, here..Just want to know, if you think this was Justifiable by any means..
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/114766865


When we evaluate his actions with some of these monologues, they do not match.
I have not seen him professing what he says.


@bold brown.
Absolutely hilarious. *I have no emoticon to express, how much i laughed.😆*


About the stereotyping part i completely agree with you.

Television is a strong medium, and people get influenced by it. The moment someone watches a visual, the thing and the 'thought' behind it leaves a strong impression on the mind. More so in youngsters. And, after knowing that it is the lady writers who write such tracks, i was shocked. { Reason : No exp. of TV shows. }

JA is among the top TRP earners, and has a lot of potential to influence the viewers. I tell you one thing, which is very shocking. During the Khyber - Jodha track, i heard someone saying that MAY BE THIS Happened Really.?. 😕😲😆 It is not related to forum, but an issue happening in the countryside, i was visiting that time, on a TOUR. 😕 Imagine this afeem issue.?. Also, that manhandling of his wife during the Sujamal track.?. The viewership runs across various strata of our society. There are sections where the Lead is worshipped as God, and often the acts shown on TV are repeated.!!!!!. All these depictions leave deep impact on thinking of viewers.

Isn't the psychological aspect the thing which major Ad agencies target.?. While making any particular advertisement, they ALSO consider the psychological impact of it, this is a common practice.

Please see this article from today's newspaper. It strikes a bit of semblance with what we are discussing. Though, this is related to gender sensitization.
https://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-newdelhi/over-40000-autodrivers-get-gender-sensitisation-training/article6585251.ece

Someone i know was associated with this workshop, and one of the points under consideration was the impact of Tele-Media on the thinking..

Originally posted by: angie321

Abhay,you are absolutely correct!!

Reel Jalal doesn't seem to believe in the proverb "practice what you preach" .

The CVs forever affirm the concept of "epic love" between Jalal and Jodha. They had the brightest golden opportunity to portray this.Imagine if Jalal had loved and supported Jodha in the same way in which he beautifully did after Hassan's demise,if he had very strictly taken care of Jodha's honour and self respect and under any circumstance not allowed anyone to hurt Jodha by insulting her and blaming the already guilty and vulnerable Jodha of killing her own kids,if both JJ would have shared this grief together(which Jodha unsuccessfully tried to share with Jalal),sometimes tumbling in their grief but trying to come out of it and trying to make the other come out of it,to live for each other,now that would have been the best definition of epic love.I'm sure everybody would have loved this. CVs should understand that the anxiety caused by extreme negativity is not the only way of pulling the viewers towards the serial, positive,beautiful scenes too can work the same magic on viewers since almost everybody appreciates the essence of true,strong love between two people overcoming every obstacle and passing the test of time and especially in a romantic serial like JA.

I would have been immensely pleased if Jodha would have turned a jallad Jalal into a better person and also if Jalal would have turned a fiery,very naive and innocent Jodha into a street smart,little shrewd person who knew whom to trust and whom not to and if both would have always protected each other physically and emotionally.

Aashrita,

You've put it quite beautifully. I was very much hopeful from Jalal(read CV's) that Jalal will support Jodha and the story will take a beautiful turn from now on.

When he supported Jodha , and stood as the shield, the gesture was divine. I was running out of words to praise him.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/114258026


Later also, after demise of second twins, i was constantly told by forum members, not to have GREAT expectations from him. Anyways, my expectations were taken for a toss, as i stood by Jalal.😆

Here is what i THOUGHT and wrote.. >>
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/114534522
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I will NEVER believe that Jalal can EVER get angry with Jodha now and think that, she could, in any way, be responsible for the Twins demise. On the other hand, i am worried about Ruqayya, as she may get the treatment from Jalal, in case she accuses Jodha.😉

Remember that, we are still to see HOW the CV's Plan to put Ruqs in her place.
Many things are still under wraps and i am getting ready to see COUNT-less Flashbacks for explanations.
"

^^^ And see, what happened was completely opposite..Jalal blames Jodha and the rest you know..They have left no stone unturned to ruin the story of J-J..

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Aadhya

Ignore the PM 😛

Will check out Epic then, thanks for the info 😊

Yes, I have very good self-control, which was mostly born out of certain personal circumstances that kept me busy and away from JA 😆 Now no desire to get back to the Epic love story of SA.

The show itself will make you give up ultimately, no matter how much you may want to continue. 😛

Radhika,
Please BEWARE. In one of the promos, of some show, it was shown that Salim kills his father, Akbar. I don't know the details, but there is one show, which depicts this also.😆😕

Originally posted by: history_geek

Radhika,
Please BEWARE. In one of the promos, of some show, it was shown that Salim kills his father, Akbar. I don't know the details, but there is one show, which depicts this also.😆😕

Hi everybody i read all posts Like button sometime working,mostely not working,Radhila your thread always amazing.All posts are good.

Originally posted by: history_geek

Lavanya,

It is not only from my perspective, but i have many on same terms who used to watch this show. Can we imagine a father blaming a mother for the twins death.?. This is a simple question.
I made this LONG post that time, here..Just want to know, if you think this was Justifiable by any means..
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/114766865


When we evaluate his actions with some of these monologues, they do not match.
I have not seen him professing what he says.


@bold brown.
Absolutely hilarious. *I have no emoticon to express, how much i laughed.😆*


About the stereotyping part i completely agree with you.

Television is a strong medium, and people get influenced by it. The moment someone watches a visual, the thing and the 'thought' behind it leaves a strong impression on the mind. More so in youngsters. And, after knowing that it is the lady writers who write such tracks, i was shocked. { Reason : No exp. of TV shows. }

JA is among the top TRP earners, and has a lot of potential to influence the viewers. I tell you one thing, which is very shocking. During the Khyber - Jodha track, i heard someone saying that MAY BE THIS Happened Really.?. 😕😲😆 It is not related to forum, but an issue happening in the countryside, i was visiting that time, on a TOUR. 😕 Imagine this afeem issue.?. Also, that manhandling of his wife during the Sujamal track.?. The viewership runs across various strata of our society. There are sections where the Lead is worshipped as God, and often the acts shown on TV are repeated.!!!!!. All these depictions leave deep impact on thinking of viewers.

Isn't the psychological aspect the thing which major Ad agencies target.?. While making any particular advertisement, they ALSO consider the psychological impact of it, this is a common practice.

Please see this article from today's newspaper. It strikes a bit of semblance with what we are discussing. Though, this is related to gender sensitization.
https://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-newdelhi/over-40000-autodrivers-get-gender-sensitisation-training/article6585251.ece

Someone i know was associated with this workshop, and one of the points under consideration was the impact of Tele-Media on the thinking..

Originally posted by: MPMANU

Hi akka...thanks for the PM

Nice thread.
Joke of the day, Ruks is angel...oh god. That is for now, dont know what what new jokes will be shown.

Its true that siblings have jealousy for silly things but they love each other also in abundance if only the parents taking correct measures. I think Murad might change sides letter.

We are not yet over with child romance, child drug addiction have hit the screen. How low do they can go. Showing the child drugged by his own Badi Ammi for what, be in power. For that she could have asked the Hindustan, even Jalal was willing to give. Besides that, they are showing that she her self is an addict. Consuming it for many years. But she does not look like one at all. She is all ok. But reality is different. They actually should not have take this road. I dont know about India but when I did my attachment in court, the most number of cases are of Drugs, from few grams to kilos. It is social disease. And Ruks will be again go scott free. If only she is here this time, she would be hanged.

It's very sad that the story is all about Ruks, Ruks and Ruks. Yes got the kids too. The saddest of all is there is no Jodha and Akbar in the show named Jodha Akbar.

They are yet to show another MU track where what to teach Salim. Why teach both and bath khatam. By the way, I think Jo would have make Salim learn sward, archery and so on, she is herself a warrior and very good one. Dont know what to say.

Just saw Siyaasat's video and its very nice and interesting.

wonderful post...