What can one say - Page 5

Originally posted by: tamy267

Divi, fantastic post...u actually covered everything...

good thing is the war was quite well shot but they showed many things which never happened...what happened then were-

1. Jalal didnt fight except killing one sipahi.

2. jauhar happened at night.

3. Jaimal was hit by Jalal's bullet at night while inspecting repairs of fort walls.

4. Fort gates of Chittor remained intact in a siege of 4 months.

(credit- Abhay)

but this is NR and we have to accept it...when the whole purpose of the war is changed then these li'l things actually dont matter.

I only hope Jalal doesnt kill the baby which I believe he wont..if he does I dont know how will I react..may be I will lock myself up just like him.

I will end my post saying the war hasn't finished yet nor the track..sometimes its hard to pass judgement until u see the whole picture.

Originally posted by: lashy

Alexander the Great was known to have ruthlessly murdered all of his rivals to the crown. This ruthlessness - where he showed no sympathy to his rivals - would contribute to the biggest Empire in the world at one point. He was a great commander, arrogant, extremely short-tempered and believed he was near-God!

Why was he awarded the GREAT tag -

Within 33, he conquered most of the world, never lost a battle, led his battles, was philosophical and spread his love for Greek culture through his Kingdoms through his love for Greece.

(Chanakya) Kautilya didn't just destroy the Nanda king - his personal vendetta was to have the entire Nanda dynasty abolished. Which means wives and kids also (if any would have been done with, right?)

Why was CGM/Kautilya great - I don't think this page would suffice if I started

Ashoka tho we all know he started his imperial ambitions as a ruthless conqueror who then went on to settle down...and MANY of those who perished in these wars were civilians... not only soldiers..

Yet, he became Great - again a page would possibly not suffice!

And people like Genghis Khan and Timur the Lame are 😲... Akbar is nothing in the 'ruthless' scale.

Atrocity is atrocity. Civilians and children are killed even by the 'developed' West in 21st century precision warfare today

The CVs should know what they're trying to show. Without concentrating on the true reasons why an Emperor was awarded the 'Great' tag you show a half-baked version of him in love and then suddenly the utterly cruel baby-killing side of his - [which our historians here like Kamal/Abhay etc have not claimed as true version of events, then people are not going to relate.]

The viewers are not here to see child-killing. [Yes the kid's not dead - and hopefully will not suffer this fate at Jalal's hands - but it was shown like he was nearly driven to it.] Viewers are here to see a love story with political drama (with a few macabre incidents like adham's death possibly)

This is too much! And not even 'real' - unless you want to show how a grey-hero of a serial can go from saint to baddest-ass of the century without possibly being diagnosed as one with MPD.

I read somewhere that Jodha is always the sufferer and Jalal is always being glorified. I find it quite the opposite. Not one of Jalal's achievements or ideals (or Akbar's for that matter) has been discussed beyond a day. Whereas his lackings have always been highlighted for weeks on end track after track - elaborated on screen, dissected in the forum.

True Jodha suffers on screen - but at least, she comes out being loved by the nation. Jalal (who I wouldn't deny does suffer onscreen too) but is hated by all. Well, the CVs achieved what they wanted to.

It takes two to tango. Two to love. Two adults to make a pair. Two to write an epic love story.

This is not mother and child. This is husband and wife. Please keep BOTH leads sensible and balanced!

Originally posted by: divyavm

Originally posted by: lashy

Alexander the Great was known to have ruthlessly murdered all of his rivals to the crown. This ruthlessness - where he showed no sympathy to his rivals - would contribute to the biggest Empire in the world at one point. He was a great commander, arrogant, extremely short-tempered and believed he was near-God!

Why was he awarded the GREAT tag -

Within 33, he conquered most of the world, never lost a battle, led his battles, was philosophical and spread his love for Greek culture through his Kingdoms through his love for Greece.

(Chanakya) Kautilya didn't just destroy the Nanda king - his personal vendetta was to have the entire Nanda dynasty abolished. Which means wives and kids also (if any would have been done with, right?)

Why was CGM/Kautilya great - I don't think this page would suffice if I started

Ashoka tho we all know he started his imperial ambitions as a ruthless conqueror who then went on to settle down...and MANY of those who perished in these wars were civilians... not only soldiers..

Yet, he became Great - again a page would possibly not suffice!

And people like Genghis Khan and Timur the Lame are 😲... Akbar is nothing in the 'ruthless' scale.

Atrocity is atrocity. Civilians and children are killed even by the 'developed' West in 21st century precision warfare today

The CVs should know what they're trying to show. Without concentrating on the true reasons why an Emperor was awarded the 'Great' tag you show a half-baked version of him in love and then suddenly the utterly cruel baby-killing side of his - [which our historians here like Kamal/Abhay etc have not claimed as true version of events, then people are not going to relate.]

The viewers are not here to see child-killing. [Yes the kid's not dead - and hopefully will not suffer this fate at Jalal's hands - but it was shown like he was nearly driven to it.] Viewers are here to see a love story with political drama (with a few macabre incidents like adham's death possibly)

This is too much! And not even 'real' - unless you want to show how a grey-hero of a serial can go from saint to baddest-ass of the century without possibly being diagnosed as one with MPD.

I read somewhere that Jodha is always the sufferer and Jalal is always being glorified. I find it quite the opposite. Not one of Jalal's achievements or ideals (or Akbar's for that matter) has been discussed beyond a day. Whereas his lackings have always been highlighted for weeks on end track after track - elaborated on screen, dissected in the forum.

True Jodha suffers on screen - but at least, she comes out being loved by the nation. Jalal (who I wouldn't deny does suffer onscreen too) but is hated by all. Well, the CVs achieved what they wanted to.

It takes two to tango. Two to love. Two adults to make a pair. Two to write an epic love story.

This is not mother and child. This is husband and wife. Please keep BOTH leads sensible and balanced!