JA Oct6 2014 Does NR Give License to Murder History: DT NT Pg4 - Page 7

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -aady-

The discussion on this thread is brilliant an such a great job Radhika di. 👏 This is my first post on this thread too. 😆


Aady,

Welcome 🤗

I met you briefly on Ela's threads long back. I don't know if you remember. Not that it matters. 😆 Hope to see more of your posts here because you are a wonderful writer. ⭐️ Unfortunately I don't go to forum - just keep track of my threads and visit links sent by friends. So what you post elsewhere, I'd definitely miss them. 😕


First of all I start off with praying that the two most co-operative kids who play Hassan and Hussain remain forever healthy, content and happy. ❤️

Ameen

As for today's episode anything I write about Rajat and Paridhi is going to fall short. Today we can see the growth PS has shown through her one year in Jodha Akbar. These two have moved not only me but so many of the viewers into tears by their stellar performance. The distress on their faces, the agitation in their actions and their supprt for each other took the scene to a whole new level. However showing the baby wrapped in a white cloth was such a disturbing sight to see. I for one was not able to see that precap through. 😭

Agree completely. They were superlative!!! 👏

About Mahesh Das yesterday, it is really very sad to see him being reduced to a dimwit. It's sad that such an enigmatic person who was known for his 'wit' is being shown as a clown who impresses people with his 'supposed' humour. It is sad to see such impotrant people being reduced to such lowly nature. The CV's have always been known for not exactly 'abiding' by history and being responsible for major goof up's but yesterday's portrayal of Mahesh Das and dying of Hassan rather than Hussain is the limit.

Again I agree. I had hoped Mahesh das would put up a decent performance even if he could not match the priceless Tansen. But it was not to be. It is distressing to see the navratnas being reduced to caricatures like this. Even Todarmal has nothing much to do. Poor Tansen is also being pulled down to give company to the beleaguered Birbal.

Sometimes it looks ad if the use the words Natakiya Rupantar as the power to show what ever they wish to. And using NR as an excuse they have massacred history and the very idea of many people watching the show. Right now all of us want to see Akdha and not the scheming milk mother and the viscious Sautan.

Our last straw now is to cling on to the hope that the baby's have been switched and this is not a huge BLUNDER made by the CV's. 🥱

My views differ here slightly. See my previous replies to Ann and Ayushi. 😊


Aady

Wonderfully written. 🤗 Loved your post for its clarity, directness, flow, reasoning and completeness. 👏

Hope to have many more interesting interactions with you, kiddo!😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ann2012



thanks Sindhu 😳
Let's see what happens today. Whatever maybe the case, we will see Ruqaiya gloating and holding on to the child stubbornly. She just wants to separate mother and child. It doesn't matter to her whether the twin is Hassan or Hussein. I hope JJ realize her true intentions at the end of this track along with Zeenat's hand in twins's murder.




Spot On Ann...This is what the Precap was all about.. ;p
But, I want to forget the precap for some time. :D, as today's episode was another masterpiece of acting by the Leads...It looked so REAL..



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Spot On Ann...This is what the Precap was all about.. ;p
But, I want to forget the precap for some time. :D, as today's episode was another masterpiece of acting by the Leads...It looked so REAL..




Abhay Waiting for your View about episode.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


Aady

Wonderfully written. 🤗 Loved your post for its clarity, directness, flow, reasoning and completeness. 👏

Hope to have many more interesting interactions with you, kiddo!😊


How can I forget? Just that we never got to discuss much after that. First of all thank you so much. I am an absolute fan of your writing and reasoning. Threads like this enhances the the JA experience. 🤗

Well it was one rollercoaster of an episode all over again today. The death of Hassan having devastating effects on his parents. The moaning, the tears, the feeling of loss all together portrayed the grave reality of death. RT and PS once again succeed in moving viewers to tears by their stellar performance.

I for one loved the scene where Jodha questions her 'Kanha' as to how all the good deeds she has done has resulted in her losing her child. "Bad things happen to good people"- that moment when Jodha realizes that life is unfair and no one is spared from it's unforgiving grasp was so touching. It is the sad truth of life that continues to puzzle me even today.

Today we got to see a strong husband Jalal trying to support his devastated wife Jodha who had given up on life. I personally loved how Jalal was shown as Jodha's greatest support. The pain was so visible in Jalal's eyes but he kept strong and did not break down because he wanted to be there for Jodha, not add to her sorrow. Sometime's it scenes like those where Akdha just silently cling on to to each other that make you believe in true love, that there is always going to be someone to help you in a difficult phase of life.

And in the precap we are back to seeing Ruk being her usual self being totally oblivious to the fact that Jodha has just lost her child. Sometimes I feel Rukaiiya has this switch that makes her forget about how she got the child. SHE ACTUALLY SMILED. How was she able to cook up a smile in such a situation?

Once again great work by RT and PS, it looks like they have stopped 'Acting' these days and just do everything from their heart. Kudos to these brilliant actors. 👏
Edited by -aady- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ayushimehra


Abhay Waiting for your View about episode.



Ayushi,

I Made a post.. On this thread.. > JA Oct 7 2014 | Ruq Downfall | Elegy for Hasan
My post is here, the first comment on this thread..>>> Link


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: MPMANU

Hi akka

Hi Purani, GE 😊

it's have been so long since coming to forum...sorry akka I have not responded for two of your relies in previous threads.

No issues...Just write when you can...Studies first... 😊

I watched the episode and i did not like the DEK scene...I find my childhood storybook birbal was way better.

Most people didn't like that scene...Both Birbal and Tansen were made a laughing stock by the CVs...😕

Towards the end the episode was shocking. I did not aspect Hassan to die this soon.

Again, most people were as shocked as JJ by the sudden and unexpected demise of Hasan..

I watched during lunch break and later went to class, Islamic finance law.

Purani, very interesting subject...Do PM me about how Islamic finance laws are different from normal international finance laws...when you have time...not urgent...😊

Got new prof from Nigeria and this his first class. Since he does not know our names yet he address my friend beside me as Rukaiya...that made me laugh. See even ruks can make😆.

Now coming to serious talk on yesterdays epi...the main event is hassan's death. There are 3 person's who are most effected . Jo, Ja and hassan. I'm not going talk anything about ruks coz its just not worth it.

Jalal and Jodha are now in very much painful situation. Both will be broken but Jalal will recover soon. For Jodha this first time for her to go true the lost of someone very close, a part of her. She has been with Jalal in many of his lost. So I'm looking forward how they are going to come back to normal.

It is truly amazing to see Jalal being there with Jodha every moment ... not leaving her alone ... making sure his mother and Salima Begum are with her when he cannot be present ... He knows she is extremely sensitive and can take any unpredictable steps in her trauma.. And he is therefore making her open up and let out her grief, sharing her pain, helping her heal herself by letting go of all the negative emotions of losing a child ... giving her a reason to live and look forward to a hopeful future...

Jodha standing by Jalal is something we have seen and something we almost expect from a wife...But an Indian husband, that too, a mighty emperor with a harem full of beautiful wives, understanding his wife's pain, and taking it upon himself to absorb her pain and heal her with his strength and positivity... hiding his own sorrow ... I would say he's hiding his own sorrow at the moment and pretending to show a courage that isn't really there... so that SHE should NOT break...so that SHE is able to come out of the trauma a stronger person...that's really SOMETHING!

I am not denigrating or reducing Jodha's support to Jalal. But our society is such that a wife would usually support the husband. But a husband supporting a wife is unexpected and rare.

Jalal telling Jodha that he could not live without her yesterday had a more profound impact on me than when he said it the first time, when she was almost dying. At that time, it had been his soul calling out to her soul and I doubt if they were conscious of what that really meant. But yesterday he showed that he really was AWARE of being absolutely sure that he could not live without her. He was broken by Hasan's demise, no doubt. But he was even more sure that while he could accept Hasan's demise and move on in life with Jodha by his side, he could not live a moment if Jodha were to leave him.

This is what is lasting, eternal love, Purani. Jalal had once joked that he would not let even his children come between him and Jodha. Jodha had once assured him with all her heart that he meant more to her than their children also, that even if their kids left him, she would always be with him.

And truth be told, they did live like that. Jalal being more worried for his wife instead of wallowing in his own grief made me cry more than even little Hasan with his demise.

Who are responsible for hassan's dead...I would say fate and of cause zeenat. What about Hussein? Are Jo and Ja liable for their untimely demise? Yes Jalal's generous farman and Jodha's selfless sacrifice is what started this whole twin sharing and it seems not ending but going to have a new heights this week. So are they to be blamed? For me they are to be blamed only if when they took the decision they could have foreseen the what befall them now. Neither jalal could have predicted asking a child of Jodha when he gave that Farman nor Jodha would have expected Ruks to shut her off completely and make a complete 360 degree u turn in behavior. Jalal when giving the farman he didn't even know that Jo is pregnant with twins. Jo or any mother cannot have imagine that her children would die.

The death of the children is like domino effect and zeenat did the final deed. Its like from starting of this pregnancy, the nature wants the children to die.

If you were to look at it philosophically, the babies were destined to die. Looking at it from the POV of a physical world, Zeenat caused their death. In any event, I would not blame JJ for the untimely demise of their babies. They acted with the best of intentions and their goodness should not be held against them. It is this goodness that will also heal them and help them move on.

It is true that it is JJ's darkest phase of life. Lets just focus on the actual event that is hassan's death. Birth and death are part of every soul's journey. If there is a birth in the house then its time to celebrate the joy but the only one will be sulking is the baby. Why because now that he is born he will be subjected to law of karma. Whatever karmic baggage he brought with himself in this lifetime, it starts its effect right after birth. The feel is like entering an exam hall without knowing what is going to befall, thanks to maya. Now coming to death. Death is when the soul leave behind it's mortal body when its time comes. It is actually an happy thing for the soul coz now it have just completed on step. It is said that someone dying very young are lucky because they don't have be tortured in this world. Seeing this way HH are lucky coz Agra palace is crawling with negativity. This point is only from the child's soul per se and nothing to do with the pain of JJ as parents.

Beautifully put, Purani.

Akka...I still have doubt on how Hassan died. Zeenat clearly said that the poison will take 5 days to kill and hassan is already dead. Ruks is shown doing nothing wrong when it supposed to be her exposure track. Akka...there are some similarities between Atifa and current track. There also we know Atifa a sub character and here Zeenat. There Maham was responsible and we did not know until later part of the track. In Atifa, we did not know Jalal's idea and here with slight chances we dont know what is Ruks doing. Jalal turn bad and now ruks is acting good, both out of character if u ask me. And the common thing is JJ is suffering. Now, I do slight doubt that what if Ruks have some part in Hassan's death. She may not intended to kill. I'm not going to predict how she might have she done it. But if not there can be no way of any exposing or punishment of Ruks.

Purani, that's a very different and refreshing way of looking at the present situation. You are quite right...Ruq is more good than usual. It is quite possible she may be doing something behind the scenes that will be revealed only later. Let's see.

PS was very good in her acting on that scene...RT also good. They succeeded in making me cry. 👏.

Yes, both have been scintillating. ⭐️

RIP Hassan and JJ just be strong.

Ameen


Thanks for such a lovely, thoughtful post, Purani. Your views are always fresh and interesting. Hope to hear from you soon, as your weekend is approaching. 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I am sick of this NR...🥱
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