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blyton thumbnail
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Posted: 18 years ago
#11
This debate shows on sign of ending 😉 , But let's highlight the actual facts:

1. Armaan did use Mallika and then Jassi to retain his Chairmanship from time to time. However, we can't blame him completely of his ladies were too blinded by love to see his mistakes. Mallika many times refused to believe that Armaan could be cunning: maybe it was her ego, maybe it was trust. Jassi, on the other hand, somewhat hopelessly believed that Armaan would reform someday if only she gave him her unconditional support. She was following Nandu's advice of being like a teacher giving "grace marks" to a weak student in the hope that it would motivate him to do better in the next exam.

2. Armaan had family pressures on him, which Aryan didn't. Armaan was answerable to Puru, Ila and Mallika; Aryan was answerable only to his sister but she neveer asked him much!

3. Conversely, Aryan did not have the kind of family support Armaan had; so maybe he had a right to feel jealous and angry when he saw Armaan messing up.

4. Aryan MIGHT have made a better Chairman; but he would not have the kind of emotional attachment to Gulmohur that Armaan had, because of the above reasons. Aryan tried to sell GM to Purab; I doubt that Armaan would have done the same, no matter how grave the crisis.


5. One thing worth thinking about is WHY Aryan was not popular in the office. Both were equally (in) capable 😃 , so was there something about Aryan's character that put off his employees?


6. Armaan was VERY wron when he tried to sabotage the Sheetal Ambuja contract; in those days he was thinking purely of himself and his ego, and not of Gulmohur.


7. Armaan was as manipulative as Aryan; the saving grace about him is that he acknowledged his mistakes from time to time unlike Aryan who never thought he could be wrong.


One thing I would like to say....hats off to JJKN for creating such debatable topics even when the reruns are being aired. Which other show would arouse such strong reactions in its viewers? 👏


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Posted: 18 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: tina59

I am not even talking abt what happened to the story after the makeover coz it wasbullshit, they changed the story.

When did Aryan steal Jassi's presentation.............if its after the makeover then i wont even go there.

yes Aryan wanted to sell his shares, why not, it was doomed already by Arman and then covered it up , he was never given the chance of becoming the CEO again coz of Arman's manipulative games to remain the CEO.

Anyone would get angry esp when they too had the right to become the CEO and Aryan too had ambitions of running GM.

As for Arman changing for the better, I told you, APURVA put his foot down when his character was over-negative to accomdate Purab and also he was the hero so in that sense, he had to fall in love wth Jassi and change for the better.

Aryan meawhile was the villain so he had to remioan negative .

I dont disagree that he was selfish or did evil things but if u tell me Arman was dood ka dhula and did everything for GM and wasnt selfish or cunning . then I strongly disagree. Also its a fact that he ruined GM with his impulsive decisions and covered it up to save his skin . If u still tell me he was a good chariman who did well in his job then what can i say..............GM was a profitable company before he came and then it become a 10 crore loss company.

Any smart person would want to sell their shares esp when they are not being given the chance to the CEO post and moreover ruining it.

I think u do not watch the epis when aryan does bad stuff i guess! no this epi wasn't aired after the makeover! aryan stole the presentaion when arundati wanted to watch it and he didn't make it himself! ok! and by the way if armaan wasn't the chairman he wud've never sold gulmohur anywhere because has heaps of sentiments with gulmohur and he is not disgudting and selfish like Aryan!

u r just soo biased with Aryan! it seems like ur just biased with the actor and by the way wateva apurva put his foot down but it was evident that they'll fix his character and he has only few negative shades, he was a overall nice person who supported Jassi! we are not here to talk about actors but caracters!

Edited by nkapoor - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: blyton

This debate shows on sign of ending 😉 , But let's highlight the actual facts:

1. Armaan did use Mallika and then Jassi to retain his Chairmanship from time to time. However, we can't blame him completely of his ladies were too blinded by love to see his mistakes. Mallika many times refused to believe that Armaan could be cunning: maybe it was her ego, maybe it was trust. Jassi, on the other hand, somewhat hopelessly believed that Armaan would reform someday if only she gave him her unconditional support. She was following Nandu's advice of being like a teacher giving "grace marks" to a weak student in the hope that it would motivate him to do better in the next exam.

2. Armaan had family pressures on him, which Aryan didn't. Armaan was answerable to Puru, Ila and Mallika; Aryan was answerable only to his sister but she neveer asked him much!

3. Conversely, Aryan did not have the kind of family support Armaan had; so maybe he had a right to feel jealous and angry when he saw Armaan messing up.

4. Aryan MIGHT have made a better Chairman; but he would not have the kind of emotional attachment to Gulmohur that Armaan had, because of the above reasons. Aryan tried to sell GM to Purab; I doubt that Armaan would have done the same, no matter how grave the crisis.


5. One thing worth thinking about is WHY Aryan was not popular in the office. Both were equally (in) capable 😃 , so was there something about Aryan's character that put off his employees?


6. Armaan was VERY wron when he tried to sabotage the Sheetal Ambuja contract; in those days he was thinking purely of himself and his ego, and not of Gulmohur.


7. Armaan was as manipulative as Aryan; the saving grace about him is that he acknowledged his mistakes from time to time unlike Aryan who never thought he could be wrong.


One thing I would like to say....hats off to JJKN for creating such debatable topics even when the reruns are being aired. Which other show would arouse such strong reactions in its viewers? 👏


Armaan might be selfish but he wasn't as bad and ruthless as Aryan!

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Posted: 18 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: nkapoor

I think u do not watch the epis when aryan does bad stuff i guess! no this epi wasn't aired after the makeover! aryan stole the presentaion when arundati wanted to watch it and he didn't make it himself! ok! and by the way if armaan wasn't the chairman he wud've never sold gulmohur anywhere because has heaps of sentiments with gulmohur and he is not disgudting and selfish like Aryan!

u r just soo biased with Aryan! it seems like ur just biased with the actor and by the way wateva apurva put his foot down but it was evident that they'll fix his character and he has only few negative shades, he was a overall nice person who supported Jassi! we are not here to talk about actors but caracters!

C'mon yaar NK , its supposed to the debate of the week , I am putting forth my points. I dont think I am biased towards Aryan. If u read above, I have never said Aryan was good or better than Arman but I have said that if Aryan was the lead , he too would have changed for the better had he found a Jassi.

next point, Aryan was bad agreed, but if u tell me Arman did everything right and none of his actions were selfish and everything was for GM , thats a big wrong, he did many things coz of his own selfishness and took poor decisions bcoz of which GM had to pay in the form of losses. Jassi herself made this point when she lashed at arman last episode.

from Arman's POV, what he may do is justified , the same way, if u look at it from Aryan's POV , his actions seem justified too. He knew Arman used his sister cruelly to get her vote and defeat him otherwise Aryan would have been the chairman.

just imagine, if Aryan had been the chiramn, dont u think seeing Arman's character, he would have tried as much to remove Aryan from the CEO post esp when he doest it inspite of several failures of Aryan.

similarly, Arman failed many times yet he was given the chance to remain the CEO , how would that make Aryan feel, as i said , he too was the rightful heir to the throne (CEO ) .

Conclusion, Aryan was bad agreed but so was Arman until he changed coz of Jassi's love. Aryan atleast played with the office files, Arman played cruelly with hearts and thats a bigger crime for me. both stand equal in terms of the crimes they did , but in the end Aryan was a villain and Arman was the hero, it was meant to be like that.

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Posted: 18 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: tina59

C'mon yaar NK , its supposed to the debate of the week , I am putting forth my points. I dont think I am biased towards Aryan. If u read above, I have never said Aryan was good or better than Arman but I have said that if Aryan was the lead , he too would have changed for the better had he found a Jassi.

next point, Aryan was bad agreed, but if u tell me Arman did everything right and none of his actions were selfish and everything was for GM , thats a big wrong, he did many things coz of his own selfishness and took poor decisions bcoz of which GM had to pay in the form of losses. Jassi herself made this point when she lashed at arman last episode.

from Arman's POV, what he may do is justified , the same way, if u look at it from Aryan's POV , his actions seem justified too. He knew Arman used his sister cruelly to get her vote and defeat him otherwise Aryan would have been the chairman.

just imagine, if Aryan had been the chiramn, dont u think seeing Arman's character, he would have tried as much to remove Aryan from the CEO post esp when he doest it inspite of several failures of Aryan.

similarly, Arman failed many times yet he was given the chance to remain the CEO , how would that make Aryan feel, as i said , he too was the rightful heir to the throne (CEO ) .

Conclusion, Aryan was bad agreed but so was Arman until he changed coz of Jassi's love. Aryan atleast played with the office files, Arman played cruelly with hearts and thats a bigger crime for me. both stand equal in terms of the crimes they did , but in the end Aryan was a villain and Arman was the hero, it was meant to be like that.

I do not agree that Armaan plays with people's heart, if u look at it he is very emotional and whether even for sumtime he played along trying to be in love with Jassi, he got into love and his love went tottally overboard!

For mallika he did feel guilty that he is only with her because his dad wants him, but its not the he was playing with her heart or anything! mallika also deep inside knew that Armaan likes her but is not in love with her, but stuck with him and didn't break the relationship because of her ego! she was selfish also! no gun was pointing towards her that she needs to be in a relation!

Aryan plays with people's hearts and emotions! he has hurted Puru so many times and I have not found him even once guilty or upset, wherelse armaan always use to feel the pain, aryan just use to smirk and took advantage of not being the real child. He got an equal chance of being ceo, not only mallika other people also voted for armaan! there is no two ways about how armaan was soo friendly with his staff and felt soo greatly about Gulmohur which Aryan could never! and he never proved himself, even if he had the chance! not while dealing with somone like maddy or ruby mom or supplier, or not while presenting the presentation to Arundati!

Conclusion: Yes Armaan was selfish, but aryan was way more bad!

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Posted: 18 years ago
#16

Enjoyed reading the discussion thanks to NK and Tina.

Both characters were real. That's why the complexity in analysing the character.

One reacts to situations and circumstances. I think Aryaan's only concern was GULMOHUR's chairmanship.

If GULMOHUR was started by the Seths and Suris on what basis did Armaan get elected the CHAIRMAN ?
Wasn't Aryan and Mallika equal contenders for the chair?

Or was it bec Senior Suri was alive where as Aryan an Mallika had lost their parents?
That's being unfair to the SETHs. I would have loved to see Aryan be the chairman...why only Aryan. In my view Mallika seemed to be a equally good candidate..😉

Anyway somethings were never explained or rather left to the viewers imagination.

Edited by Dimdim - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
#17

excuse me! armaan never slept with mallika! and mallika was equaly selfish like i explained before in my previous quotes!

and aryan definately would'nt be a better chairman! because of 1000's of reasons i have posted before which u have not contradicted, just because u r not ready to listen that doesn't mean i repeat myself several times!

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Posted: 18 years ago
#18
oh he slept with Malliks and not only with her but several others thats why he was a casanova. In the initial episodes they show Arman and Mallika having a romatic night and Arman coming out with his shirl all loose looking very happy

what did u think they did in Goa when they went for a holiday where again they had a nice romantic time which was showed

Kareena modi , Arman had a fling with her too

overall he slept with Mallika allright
the rest I wont even bother since u seem to take a simple debate so seriously

so lets just forget it
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Posted: 18 years ago
#19

Originally posted by: tina59

oh he slept with Malliks and not only with her but several others thats why he was a casanova. In the initial episodes they show Arman and Mallika having a romatic night and Arman coming out with his shirl all loose looking very happy

what did u think they did in Goa when they went for a holiday where again they had a nice romantic time which was showed

Kareena modi , Arman had a fling with her too

overall he slept with Mallika allright
the rest I wont even bother since u seem to take a simple debate so seriously

so lets just forget it

well even if armaan did sleep with her, mallika wasn't an innocent child and very well knew that Armaan wasn't in love with her plus the discussion is on aryan! and he was a negative for sure! and in my serveral posts i ave pointed out why he wudn't be a good chairman for gulmohur! i never said that armaan was dood ka dhoola but however he was he was better then Aryan! Aryan was way too cunning and bad!

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