DOTW: Arguements over Aryan

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Posted: 18 years ago
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there have been so many arguements regarding aryan, i hope after the july 9th epi, no one wud like to point out that aryan cud've been a good chairman because he was never concerned about Gulmohur or it's employees but his chairmanship. After seeing the repeat telecats of Jassi, I have understood that Armaan was never a negative character, he was a nice person who employed jassi, gave importance to jassi, gave her sallary raises, was a friend to her, chattd to her, was a friend to the gang and was a friendly person, and a person wh was dependent on Jassi and also repsected and appreciated Jassi's Bebe's views and values. But when people like Purab who was rival came in the picture, when his jassi started talking to him in a different manner, he got insecure and did all this, and what made Raj insecure for kohinoor was nandu who was boasting like anything! Purab who got on Armaan's last nerves defending and talking about jassi! If I was Armaan I would've equally felt insecure and would've felt angry, I would've felt heaps insecure also whn his employee comes and orders him a bit and becomes chairman, and also shows that she has better capabilities. Purab is such an eye-soar infact i hate is character coming in rival's company like it is a drawing room, and keep on throwing dialogues at armaan for jassi for no reason! It was very bad of jassi to tell armaan off today and to tell him that he stole the draft, why would he? he loves gulmohur? and he is the one who gave her such a big position, he was the one who always stood by her and told her that she was the best and made her career, and was more then a boss, he was her friend and have always talked to her about everything from personal to professional and has always blindly trusted her, armaan was a gem of a guy and has not only employed her but by increased her position, her confidence plus given her 1000's of love dreams😳 this is my observation

i am not saying armaan was too good, but he was a normal human being!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Aryan just wasnt as concerned about as Mallika Armaan and Jassi.
Half his time was just spent in finding out where Armaan was going to go worng.

Proof:The bahdsoorut gang....they never wanted him as chairman.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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My God, I never thoght anyone would want Aryan to be chairman ever!!!

But I always thought what a great twisted character we have here!!!! 😈
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Ok I am one of them who actually beleive that Aryan could have been a beter chairman . Look anyway Arman was doing a bad job so why not give him a chance.

its very easy to say Arman did everything for GM when he didnt actually. I am not saying Aryan wasnt evil or he actually cared for GM but I know for sure that at some point Arman did do al that he did for his position.

No one can deny the fact that he proposed to Mallika for the sole intention of getting her vote for the chairman post which otherwise would have gone to Aryan which is why Aryan hates him coz he knew Arman was manipulative and using his sister for his means. If u see the first episode, he mentions it clearly.

Next had he been genuinely concerned with GM , he would have presented the true balance sheet and told everyone esp the board abt the wrong decisions he made, instead he lied to them and made a flase balance sheet only coz he wanted to save himself and his post from Aryan. He knew he would lose his post if they come to know and Aryan would get the post.

If Aryan stole the draft, Arman first tried the destroy the file which had the Sheetal ambuja collection, he also tried to sabotage the presentation by bribing a band to play. If u tel me it was for GM , thats unfair . He did it out of his insecurity and to get back his CEO post.

The only reason why he changed was coz APURVA put his foot down to the over-negative shades put on his character and anyway he was the hero so he has to be shown that way and Jassi changed him for the better.

My arguement was , if Arman could change for the better , maybe Aryan too would have changed had he played the hero but as he was Aryan , he was shown that way.

nevertheless no one can deny that Aryan had a sharper brain than Arman and some of his suggestions like the one where he spoke to grading were awesome.

Think abt it from his POV, he too was the rightful heir to GM coz his father too was one of the founders of GM , yet Arman used his sister to get the deciding vote and took the chairman post away from him and Aryan knew it. Not only that he was playing with his sisters life and then make fake balance sheets to cover up. Why shouldnt he feel that Arman wasnt fit to run the company after all this. Puru defends Arman all the time so does Mallika and Raj, he doesnt have the suporrt of anyone thats why he did try to take over with the help of Purab. He has a right to be scorned, he too was a partner in the company and Arman was ruining it with his wrong impulsive decisions.

I am not sayng Aryan was good but he couldnt have been given the chance to run the company as he too had the right over GM. But if u tell me that all of Arman's actions were justified and for GM , thats really unfair. He ruined GM for no fault of Aryan and Mallika's who were also the rightful owners of GM and yet Mallika supported him coz she loves him and he used that to his advantage which was wrong.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: tina59

Ok I am one of them who actually beleive that Aryan could have been a beter chairman . Look anyway Arman was doing a bad job so why not give him a chance.

its very easy to say Arman did everything for GM when he didnt actually. I am not saying Aryan wasnt evil or he actually cared for GM but I know for sure that at some point Arman did do al that he did for his position.

No one can deny the fact that he proposed to Mallika for the sole intention of getting her vote for the chairman post which otherwise would have gone to Aryan which is why Aryan hates him coz he knew Arman was manipulative and using his sister for his means. If u see the first episode, he mentions it clearly.

Next had he been genuinely concerned with GM , he would have presented the true balance sheet and told everyone esp the board abt the wrong decisions he made, instead he lied to them and made a flase balance sheet only coz he wanted to save himself and his post from Aryan. He knew he would lose his post if they come to know and Aryan would get the post.

If Aryan stole the draft, Arman first tried the destroy the file which had the Sheetal ambuja collection, he also tried to sabotage the presentation by bribing a band to play. If u tel me it was for GM , thats unfair . He did it out of his insecurity and to get back his CEO post.

The only reason why he changed was coz APURVA put his foot down to the over-negative shades put on his character and anyway he was the hero so he has to be shown that way and Jassi changed him for the better.

My arguement was , if Arman could change for the better , maybe Aryan too would have changed had he played the hero but as he was Aryan , he was shown that way.

nevertheless no one can deny that Aryan had a sharper brain than Arman and some of his suggestions like the one where he spoke to grading were awesome.

Think abt it from his POV, he too was the rightful heir to GM coz his father too was one of the founders of GM , yet Arman used his sister to get the deciding vote and took the chairman post away from him and Aryan knew it. Not only that he was playing with his sisters life and then make fake balance sheets to cover up. Why shouldnt he feel that Arman wasnt fit to run the company after all this. Puru defends Arman all the time so does Mallika and Raj, he doesnt have the suporrt of anyone thats why he did try to take over with the help of Purab. He has a right to be scorned, he too was a partner in the company and Arman was ruining it with his wrong impulsive decisions.

I am not sayng Aryan was good but he couldnt have been given the chance to run the company as he too had the right over GM. But if u tell me that all of Arman's actions were justified and for GM , thats really unfair. He ruined GM for no fault of Aryan and Mallika's who were also the rightful owners of GM and yet Mallika supported him coz she loves him and he used that to his advantage which was wrong.

No Armaan wasn't a bad chairman, for sure he made some silly mistakes like ordering cheap material, but he was very good at dealing with dealers and always shared a good rapport with his employees ruby mom and bindya could do anything for armaan, and armaan was the only one who dealed with Maddy's mood swings which Aryan could never.

Yes Aryan had a sharper brain but to only do bad stuff, its very clear that Aryan didn't have any emotions with puru and gulmohur but his position, wherelse Armaan did, Aryan was much more egoistic and manuplative person then armaan, atleast armaan had some emotions!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: nkapoor

No Armaan wasn't a bad chairman, for sure he made some silly mistakes like ordering cheap material, but he was very good at dealing with dealers and always shared a good rapport with his employees ruby mom and bindya could do anything for armaan, and armaan was the only one who dealed with Maddy's mood swings which Aryan could never.

Yes Aryan had a sharper brain but to only do bad stuff, its very clear that Aryan didn't have any emotions with puru and gulmohur but his position, wherelse Armaan did, Aryan was much more egoistic and manuplative person then armaan, atleast armaan had some emotions!

Arman would def have emotions with Puru, he was his father. Aryan was manipulative , and Arman wasnt. He got the CEO post coz of his manipulativenss, he played the love drama with Jassi and used her , for what for GM or to save his CEO Post.

Its not enough to have good realtions with the employees, his decisions were all wrong and on top of that he covers it up with his lies.

Aryan was bad but plz justifying Arman's selfishness as being acts for GM is completely wrong. He did it for his own selfish reasons, he too tried his level best to protect his CEO post. When Puru threatens to aplit GM into 3 and remove him from his chairman post, Arman once again agreed to marry Mallika, why was it for GM , no , it was so that Aryan doesnt get anyshare and he gets to remain the CEO

why did he try to remove Jassi from the CEO and sabotage her collection, it was to regain his CEO post coz he got insecure , did he think abt GM then ,NO.

Arman was good, yes but he too was selfish like Aryan .

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Posted: 18 years ago
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arman was nice to jassi before purav came. after he came he started feeling jealous and started being mean to her. and didn't want to give her a better post. instead he wanted to take everything away from jassi.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: riddhi_416

arman was nice to jassi before purav came. after he came he started feeling jealous and started being mean to her. and didn't want to give her a better post. instead he wanted to take everything away from jassi.

No! yes armaan was jealous, but he was the one who gave jassi his position, he didn't want to put her down or anything but out of insecurities he did try to ruin her plans but soon enough he understood that in his insecurities he is doing a bit bad for Gulmohur. But he has never gone as cheap as Aryan Seth and sold Gulmohur's shares to someone else or stole the draft and then put the budern on someone else's shoulder. Armaan suri wasn't Aryan Seth and Thank God for that!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: tina59

Arman would def have emotions with Puru, he was his father. Aryan was manipulative , and Arman wasnt. He got the CEO post coz of his manipulativenss, he played the love drama with Jassi and used her , for what for GM or to save his CEO Post.

Its not enough to have good realtions with the employees, his decisions were all wrong and on top of that he covers it up with his lies.

Aryan was bad but plz justifying Arman's selfishness as being acts for GM is completely wrong. He did it for his own selfish reasons, he too tried his level best to protect his CEO post. When Puru threatens to aplit GM into 3 and remove him from his chairman post, Arman once again agreed to marry Mallika, why was it for GM , no , it was so that Aryan doesnt get anyshare and he gets to remain the CEO

why did he try to remove Jassi from the CEO and sabotage her collection, it was to regain his CEO post coz he got insecure , did he think abt GM then ,NO.

Arman was good, yes but he too was selfish like Aryan .

Yes Armaan was selfish in ways like that he only engaged mallika only to have an extra vote, but even mallika wasn't pure she wanted armaan at any cost because if he goes away her ego will hurt, it was her dialogues when aryan talked about counselling, her love for armaan wasn't pure either, but yes i do agree mallika was innocent most of the time but she also contained grey shades.

Armaan was scared to show the real balance sheet not because he didn't car for gulmohur because he was concerned for his father, and that's 60% of the reason why he had to be married to mallika to impress puru, and puru always unecessarily put pressure on him. and wait a minute who says armaan wasn't a good chairman?

-he was the one who listened to Jassi's advice for JJKN collection,- he was the one who hired jassi and trusted her,-he was the one who stopped ruby's retirement,-he was the one who at the end recovered all the costs of Gulmohur but the factory burnt(if people remember!),-he was the one who fixed the mistake of Aryan and Mallika and got the client back, -he always had an authority on people and people followed his orders, -and he was the one who thought jassi capable of matching Arundati's plans but Aryan and Mallika ruined the presentation, and that Aryan thief actually stole Jassi's presentaion and hand it over to Mallika!

-Aryan could've proved his capabilities then why the hell he stole Jassi's presentaion!

-Aryan was a thief, he was manuplative, he was a sour mouth to the employees, and was also very cunning and actually tried to sell Gulmohur's shares, Aryan also snatched the compny at the end, but as far as i remember he wasn't successful in making it big! so ha ha ha

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: nkapoor

Yes Armaan was selfish in ways like that he only engaged mallika only to have an extra vote, but even mallika wasn't pure she wanted armaan at any cost because if he goes away her ego will hurt, it was her dialogues when aryan talked about counselling, her love for armaan wasn't pure either, but yes i do agree mallika was innocent most of the time but she also contained grey shades.

Armaan was scared to show the real balance sheet not because he didn't car for gulmohur because he was concerned for his father, and that's 60% of the reason why he had to be married to mallika to impress puru, and puru always unecessarily put pressure on him. and wait a minute who says armaan wasn't a good chairman?

-he was the one who listened to Jassi's advice for JJKN collection,- he was the one who hired jassi and trusted her,-he was the one who stopped ruby's retirement,-he was the one who at the end recovered all the costs of Gulmohur but the factory burnt(if people remember!),-he was the one who fixed the mistake of Aryan and Mallika and got the client back, -he always had an authority on people and people followed his orders, -and he was the one who thought jassi capable of matching Arundati's plans but Aryan and Mallika ruined the presentation, and that Aryan thief actually stole Jassi's presentaion and hand it over to Mallika!

-Aryan could've proved his capabilities then why the hell he stole Jassi's presentaion!

-Aryan was a thief, he was manuplative, he was a sour mouth to the employees, and was also very cunning and actually tried to sell Gulmohur's shares, Aryan also snatched the compny at the end, but as far as i remember he wasn't successful in making it big! so ha ha ha

I am not even talking abt what happened to the story after the makeover coz it wasbullshit, they changed the story.

When did Aryan steal Jassi's presentation.............if its after the makeover then i wont even go there.

yes Aryan wanted to sell his shares, why not, it was doomed already by Arman and then covered it up , he was never given the chance of becoming the CEO again coz of Arman's manipulative games to remain the CEO.

Anyone would get angry esp when they too had the right to become the CEO and Aryan too had ambitions of running GM.

As for Arman changing for the better, I told you, APURVA put his foot down when his character was over-negative to accomdate Purab and also he was the hero so in that sense, he had to fall in love wth Jassi and change for the better.

Aryan meawhile was the villain so he had to remioan negative .

I dont disagree that he was selfish or did evil things but if u tell me Arman was dood ka dhula and did everything for GM and wasnt selfish or cunning . then I strongly disagree. Also its a fact that he ruined GM with his impulsive decisions and covered it up to save his skin . If u still tell me he was a good chariman who did well in his job then what can i say..............GM was a profitable company before he came and then it become a 10 crore loss company.

Any smart person would want to sell their shares esp when they are not being given the chance to the CEO post and moreover ruining it.

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