SYMBOLISM - BOAT , SHIP AND WATER ( SOAP , SEA)

dv19 thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 10 years ago
#1

Symbolism - Boats ..

Ok .. Saturdays episode this scene intrigued me.. to write..

The Paper Boat and Soap water..

In short he was taking his vengence against Kalindi and family ..but what ever wrong things he planned it back fired him..He slip and fell down because of soap water..

In Tamil there is a proverb ..

" MURPAGAL SEYYIN PIRPAGAL VILAYUM "

" THAN VINAI THANNAI SUDUM" .

In english the apt proverb I couldn't get.. Pl somebody help ..

The meaning for both things clubbed up , is the wrong thing or bad things u plan and scheme for somebody ,the plan may work present and u may see the down fall of the other , but in return the plan will have an after effect on u itself either now or later.. Evil will follow u all the time ..

I don't have the pic of the ship statue in NAS house..

Im connecting the entire EBP crew here in each and every situation..

'up a creek without a paddle' mean

Up a creek without a paddle means you are in deep trouble and there is nothing you can do about it. Your situation is quite hopeless, in other words. The image in this idiom is of a boat adrift in a river, with no paddles (oars) to steer with.

Idioms: Burn one's boats; in the same boat; miss the boat; rock the boat; ships that pass; ship comes in; a tight ship; in a boat without a paddle. See: anchor; submarine.

Boat Ship

This probably depicts our journey through the seas of life and how we meet the rough and smooth experiences, as with example below. In many dreams boats and ships appear to depict a situation, environment or relationship the dreamer is in - as in the saying, in the same boat'.

Because of the fact that once in the water it is difficult to leave the boat, the situation is often one that has certain bonds or commitments which may not be easy to leave or break away from - such as occurs in a close relationship or a work situation. The condition the boat depicts may relate to a physical one, such as a work opportunity, a place we live in, a relationship that, like any relationship, offers certain opportunities and restrictions - or it might be an attitude a feeling or a belief, such as pride or love, which places you in a certain connection with the world - i.e. at sea' or lost; in a stormy situation; in dry dock, etc. The boat can also be a place of safety amidst the storms of life. Thus attitudes or strengths enabling the dreamer to meet difficulties.

A boat is the thing that keeps you afloat in a different element than you are used to. As such it depicts the attitudes that enable you to have a clear boundary and certainty of who you are. It is your confidence and the threshold that separates your waking self from the massive and deep unconscious - the ocean of collective awareness. This is clear in the following example.

THE ABOVE - NA & SHLOK ..Shlok blindly falling in the LOVE SEA OF BABA..

****

Example: Opened a paper at the comic strip. Began to read and become involved in the story. A small speed boat was at sea. But the sea dissolved anybody who fell in. One man fell in but held himself together as a blob of water and jumped back to the speedboat. I remember the words "The sea is a great solvent." Anthony.

This dream pictures Anthony's identity or ability to be an individual amidst the great ocean of life or consciousness. So the boat probably represents how he sees his body, as a thing separate from the rest of the world.

The various environments boats may be in show the condition or feelings surrounding the basic life situation the boat depicts. For instance being at sea' - depending upon calmness or rough seas - shows the dreamer being away from a familiar base or in difficult or uncertain times.

THE ABOVE - APJ'S - current thoughts living in Kalindis house :

******

Example: I was inside a large boat, probably a tanker. There were a lot of passengers, but it appeared as if we were imprisoned in a huge room. It was very dingy and dismal. I am not sure though whether people realised they were prisoners. Maybe one only realised one was imprisoned if one tried to escape. Bob. A.

This boat obviously represents a situation Bob finds it difficult to get out of, and is only just realising he is trapped in. It also shows him involved with other people.

APJ'S FUTURE WITH KALINDI AS MOM AND SON - KALINDI IS WAITING FOR HIM TO SHARE MOTHERLY LOVE..

****

Example: I'm a young woman standing on a sea shore. I am waiting for my man. I hear the oars in the row locks of a boat, then it comes into view. A man comes to me, and puts his arms around me like he's known me all my life. My man pauses, turns his head to a man still in the boat and says - Tell them this is it. Phillipa.

Here the boat holds the suggestion of being an event bringing Phillipa a love she has been waiting for.

*****

OTHER RELATED STUFF :

Anchored boat: Security; stable relationship or situation; opposite of drifting.

ASTHA AND SHLOKS RELATIONSHIP IS LIKE THE ANCHORED BOAT. SECURED BUT WILL NOT SINK FOR ANY STORM OR TIDE.

Beached boat: Possibly suggests a situation in which you are on dry land' not subject to many changes or uncertainties. But it could also relate to a project, relationship or endeavour that cannot be got underway, or has got stuck in some way. However if you beach the boat and get out, then it shows the end of a journey, project or relationship.

KALINDI AND APJ - NEW VENTURE.. BIT DIFFICULT ..BUT WILL VENTURE AND BOND.

I CAN RELATE SOJAL / VARAD AND MANSI TO HERE ..

Boat without oars: Ill equipped to deal with the situation you are in. A loss of motivation and being subject to external events to direct your life. So this might point to indecisiveness or lack of initiative.

APJ AND KALINDI.. WHERE APJ NEEDS A MENTOR FOR GIVING CORRECT PATH TO LEAD A GOOD LIFE..

SHLOK AFTER NA'S REVELATION WHERE SHLOK WILL BE LOSS OF MOTIVATION ..ASTHA WOULD BE SUPPORTING HAND ..

Bows: One's strength to meet life's changes.

Disembarking: Leaving a phase of life, such as motherhood, marriage or a job. Ending a relationship or arriving at a new phase of life, a new possibility or great change.

ALL THE CHARACTERS CAN BE RELATED HERE ..

Dry dock: Necessary changes being made; circumstances not conducive to being actively involved in a project or relationship; delays. There might be a link with ill health here also.

Embarking alone: Independence or loneliness. Entering a new situation and perhaps unknown events or possibilities. Opportunity for new relationships.

APJ ..

****

Ferry boat: If across a river, end of a relationship; transition from one phase of life to another or one life situation to another; the emotional connections in a relationship. Sometimes links with death or the loss of someone.

APJ AND KALINDI , SOJAL AND VARAD , NA AND SHLOK AFTER HE LOOSES HIS FAITH IN HIS FATHER..

********

Going on a cruise: Desiring relationship with others; or to be a part of other peoples life. Leaving ones everyday life behind.

Boat journey by night: Classic archetype of searching for one's roots in life; the journey into ones unconscious experience. See: night sea journey under archetypes.

Keel: Basic personal strengths. The foundation of your personality or identity.

Leaving boat but leaving bag on it: Losing confidence or self value, such as might happen when children have gone or job ended.

Lots of small boats: Other peoples relationships.

Missing a boat: Missing opportunity; not grasping significance of events; not making it' in a relationship.

******

OK THIS IS FOR NA , SHLOK AND ASTHA - TRI EQUATION.. BLINDED BY TWO'S LOVE ,ONE REAL THE OTHER FAKE ,BONDED WITH BLOOD FOR REAL ONE, BONDED WITH COMMITMENT AND MARRIAGE FOR LIFE ANOTHER..

Motor boat: Similar to car but more sense of isolation or aloneness. The motor boat also shows the powerful feelings and drives which impel us into action, or give us a direction in life, as in the following example. For instance a strong anxiety can be a power, an engine, which motivates us to do or avoid certain things, such a taking risks, entering a relationship. So too can love, dependence, desire for wealth, loneliness, and the struggle to survive.

Example: My wife, H and I were on a large and beautiful motor boat, about thirty feet long. We were speeding along a river about hundred yards wide. I didn't seem to be steering with a wheel, but there was no problem. Instead of water the river appeared to be a thick slurry of some kind. We were passing through countryside and suddenly H dropped what I felt might be an important envelope overboard. It lay on the top of the river. I wanted to stop and retrieve it. Other boats were coming along some way behind and I wondered if one of them would go over it. There was a lever which was the accelerator. I pushed it right back and the boat slowly reduced speed, but we were a long way from the envelope/package. The further away we got the less important it seemed, although I had wondered if it contained documents important to where we were going - which I felt was to do with some sort of work or teaching an official or business group.

Suddenly H was on the right bank of the river. I am not sure why, but she had left the boat. I wasn't sure how she could get back on board again as the river was now full of debris and weeds - tree stumps, metal poles, cans, really full - and the banks were shallow and difficult to approach. I found a place where I could pull in, and there were steps in the earthy or limestone type bank that had been worn in with use. I managed to stop the boat - I still couldn't find controls to guide or stop the craft - by holding on to the bank, and H got on. I was very pleased and felt love and pleasure that she had got on again. I kissed her warmly. We pulled away from the bank, avoiding a big metal post and chain low in the water. I felt if we went slowly we could get through all the debris okay. Roz.

This dream occurred during a period of separation in the marriage and shows how Roz is not really guiding the boat. He is being impelled by drives he doesn't have full control over. Parting and coming together again are clearly depicted in the dream.

NA AND SHLOK ... SHLOK AND ASTHA -- ALL THREE.. WHERE NA IS BEEN NICELY USED BY SHLOK.. HE IS BEEN INFLUENCED BY NA AND COMPELLED TO DO..WHERE HE IS NOT HAVING CONTROL ..

******

Rowing a boat: Personal skill or effort to achieve a goal. Whether you are succeeding well or not shows how you are assessing your own efforts to reach goals or take a direction in life.

Rudder: Sureness about direction in life; ability to take a direction in life and maintain it against other influences.

Shared journey on boat or ship: A situation we are involved in with other people or person, such as marriage, business partnership, armed forces; this is the relation-ship, a shared journey in which you are all in the same boat'.

Sinking ship/boat: Fear of relationship ending; difficult events or circumstances; could be children leaving mother, so the collective boat journey' has finished; illness; death.

Small Boat with one other person: One's relationship with that person.

APJ - MAY THINK IN FUTURE : POSITIVE THINKING :

If I am not alone on this boat, what is the dream saying about my shared journey with the person or people I am with?

What is the situation depicted - storm, calm, etc - and how does that relate to my life?

Am I directing the boat or am I a passenger - and in what way am I alone or going along with somebody in life?

Created

Last reply

Replies

18

Views

6.6k

Users

7

Likes

39

Frequent Posters

akashavani thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 10 years ago
#2
DEEPA...very detailed and great post.
uma111 thumbnail
15th Anniversary Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail
Posted: 10 years ago
#3
very nice. lot of information.
Thanks, Deepa😃
dv19 thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 10 years ago
#4

Originally posted by: uma111

very nice. lot of information.

Thanks, Deepa😃

Thanks dear.
dv19 thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 10 years ago
#5

Originally posted by: akashavani

DEEPA...very detailed and great post.

Vani, All credits to you ,Nimmy, mermaid, rekha ,suchi,jia and swathya ...
U guys are eye openers for me to think deeply from all angles and perspective..
Object linked with situations and their stories..
similar to .. facial expression giving full meaning of the way we feel.
thanks a lot..
dsr11 thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 10 years ago
#6
nice thoughts DV. great post. i made a similar post long back for jyothi-abhay-anjali.
in this scene, since APJ made the boat for Ajju, i'll just say what i think about that.

a boat refers to final journey or death...of a person or a relationship... especially when the boat is not floating properly, it means the end of journey. he made that boat for ajju... but he himself fell in the trap he laid.

a boat, that is not moving properly, could also mean an end of relationship... especial1y a washed up boat. this used to be in jyothi and abhay house.

a boat with anchor is stability. this is in anjali niranjan bedroom.
dv19 thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 10 years ago
#7

Originally posted by: dsr11

nice thoughts DV. great post. i made a similar post long back for jyothi-abhay-anjali.

in this scene, since APJ made the boat for Ajju, i'll just say what i think about that.

a boat refers to final journey or death...of a person or a relationship... especially when the boat is not floating properly, it means the end of journey. he made that boat for ajju... but he himself fell in the trap he laid.

a boat, that is not moving properly, could also mean an end of relationship... especial1y a washed up boat. this used to be in jyothi and abhay house.

a boat with anchor is stability. this is in anjali niranjan bedroom.

Rekha,
Thanks a lot..
U see right , the accurate and precise details on ur finer tips ..very beautiful..
I will check ur index..thanks once again.
hp_2006 thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 10 years ago
#8
Nice observation yaar...I loved it..
Sathia007 thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail
Posted: 10 years ago
#9
DEEPA
Superb in detail analysis with reference - very hard work and eye - opener!!!.


I believe that You are going head to head with REKHA.

Joint effort of REKHA & YOU - makes the topic more interesting.
dv19 thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 10 years ago
#10

Originally posted by: Sathia007

DEEPA

Superb in detail analysis with reference - very hard work and eye - opener!!!.


I believe that You are going head to head with REKHA.

Joint effort of REKHA & YOU - makes the topic more interesting.

thanks a lot swathya. I like reading ..new hobby.. research and analysis... my once upon a time JOB. .so I do my research correctly..
rekha is very good. .precise and perfect..
im taking lessons from her..she is a very good teacher ..

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".