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Posted: 11 years ago
#61
Mansi the episode was good .. I liked JJ scene and Jallu knows how to get back his JO...Today episode I just liked Javeeda it's shock to see that she tried to save Jalaal by taking her husband attack on her.. Hope Javeeda will be alive or will she die sacrificing her life for Jalaal..

The other person who sacrificed his life is Atgah, his last prayer was for Jalaal instead of his family...

Maham realization came late, that she was unfair to both AK and Jalaal .. I liked the symbolism seeing jalaal is blood and same happened in the precap, but the reason is different...

I really will miss Atgah and AK characters and waiting to see if CVS will end MA character in depression or will she try to kill Jo or try to harm pregnancy ? before her death..Will MA there after leap twins birth or not ?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhi786

Mansi the episode was good .. I liked JJ scene and Jallu knows how to get back his JO...Today episode I just liked Javeeda it's shock to see that she tried to save Jalaal by taking her husband attack on her.. Hope Javeeda will be alive or will she die sacrificing her life for Jalaal..

The other person who sacrificed his life is Atgah, his last prayer was for Jalaal instead of his family...

Maham realization came late, that she was unfair to both AK and Jalaal .. I liked the symbolism seeing jalaal is blood and same happened in the precap, but the reason is different...

I really will miss Atgah and AK characters and waiting to see if CVS will end MA character in depression or will she try to kill Jo or try to harm pregnancy ? before her death..Will MA there after leap twins birth or not ?

Even now Abhi I doubt if Maham has had a genuine realisation. She has a selfish core that always makes us wonder if she's seeig her own phayda in every single thought, word and deed and situation!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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hi guys sorry for replying so late. was very busy. Mansi, awsome analysis thanks.😊 Well i too did not expect atga's death in yesterdays episode. But i think we all saw it coming. Atga was totally loyal to jalal till his last breath!! we will miss you atga!! and your hukm ki tamil hogi huzoor!! MA is finally seeing the truth of her life in the jail. But it is too little too late. She will lose adham now after she lost the trust of jalal. I just hope that they show maham going into depression after adham's death and not jalal releasing her from jail and having sympathy for her so that she can plot one more saazish. Seriously im getting worn out of intense MA obsession by the creatives.😡😡 But i dont think that she has the resources to plan other things now. Atleast i hope. I want that on her deathbed she confesses all the other saazishes she has done against jodha. Well according to history, jalal did try his best to sace her. So like in rukaiya;s case for jalal's happiness she might agree to serve maham in her last days. Wherein maham will realise the true worth of jodha and apologise to both before dying. im just hoping so cause i just wnt to get rid of MA now. That is just my view on Maham.
Adham, i dont know what to say about him. He is at this stage because of MA alone. She directed his aspirations in the wrong way. There is a saying that the child follows in the footsteps of his parents. Here maham constantly directed adham's amitions in the wrong way by saying that he could get the takht. Had she just told adham that though I am like mother to jalal and you his brother and though he has given you all the respect, you must not forget that he is the king and we must stay as his loyals till our death. Had she told him that jalal has given us power inspite of us being gulams, be grateful and side your brother till death adham and jalal would actually develop that brother bond. But again maham never let that happen. She kept telling adham that jalal will give us a lot of power, so adham became power hungry like her. She never ever let adham take decisions and learn from those decisions. This is why he in anger that he is nikamma killed atga in frustration to be able to kill jalal since atga was a barrier of jalal. well he is going down agra fort today, so i dont know what more there is to it.

Now coming to the most important part of my post, the jalal and jodha relationship after this. I totally agree with abhay's post on his thread. Jalal will break down completely as he has lost everyone who he trusted from his childhood time. Now only one person can give him solace and that is his jodha. He has that emotional connect with only jodha. Not even with hamida, probably cause she was away from him in his childhood and maham kept him away from hamida. He used to have it with MA but not completely. He used to open his heart to her only some times like after bakshi betrayed him or after ruks mc. Now jodha will be the pillar of strength which will help him to stand through thick and thin. He will realise that he is not alone and that his soulmate is always there with him. Her life starts and ends with him. She will help him to emerge stronger than before. Like in Abhay's thread, I agree that this is now a very interesting period in the show, where the court and the empire will get transformed. Old mughal blood will be replaced by people of different places and religions. This is the transformation of the mughal rule and also paved way for Akbar becoming great. jajo will be each other's support, jodha now for jalal and jalal for jodha at the time of the death of the twins and sujamal's death. There were a lot of political conspiracies following this and i just hope the cvs do justice to these tracks by showing acceptable NR cause they don need to much of fiction as the history books have the entire script in place! they just need to figure out how to present it.😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi from last two days ,things were better between Jajo.But not once ,I saw Jalal atleast looking at her tummy and talking or atleast caring for her.I expected him to ask her whether she is taking her medicines ? Whether she eats properly? Never saw that but yes was ready for Mohabbat.

How did you think ,you will see him caring for her? Who cares for her? Nobody.He wants her shoulder to cry.But any reciprocation?



Yesterday CVS can show perfectly JJ scene Jallu talking about babies and feelings of becoming parents, now Jalaal will be shattered... Hope CVS don't rush for LEAP ... I so want Javeeda to alive and may get married again, when Bakshi get second chance why can't Javeeda, but look like CVS may show her death removing all MA family members..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: karishma.s

hi guys sorry for replying so late. was very busy. Mansi, awsome analysis thanks.😊 Well i too did not expect atga's death in yesterdays episode. But i think we all saw it coming. Atga was totally loyal to jalal till his last breath!! we will miss you atga!! and your hukm ki tamil hogi huzoor!! MA is finally seeing the truth of her life in the jail. But it is too little too late. She will lose adham now after she lost the trust of jalal. I just hope that they show maham going into depression after adham's death and not jalal releasing her from jail and having sympathy for her so that she can plot one more saazish. Seriously im getting worn out of intense MA obsession by the creatives.😡😡 But i dont think that she has the resources to plan other things now. Atleast i hope. I want that on her deathbed she confesses all the other saazishes she has done against jodha. Well according to history, jalal did try his best to sace her. So like in rukaiya;s case for jalal's happiness she might agree to serve maham in her last days. Wherein maham will realise the true worth of jodha and apologise to both before dying. im just hoping so cause i just wnt to get rid of MA now. That is just my view on Maham.

Adham, i dont know what to say about him. He is at this stage because of MA alone. She directed his aspirations in the wrong way. There is a saying that the child follows in the footsteps of his parents. Here maham constantly directed adham's amitions in the wrong way by saying that he could get the takht. Had she just told adham that though I am like mother to jalal and you his brother and though he has given you all the respect, you must not forget that he is the king and we must stay as his loyals till our death. Had she told him that jalal has given us power inspite of us being gulams, be grateful and side your brother till death adham and jalal would actually develop that brother bond. But again maham never let that happen. She kept telling adham that jalal will give us a lot of power, so adham became power hungry like her. She never ever let adham take decisions and learn from those decisions. This is why he in anger that he is nikamma killed atga in frustration to be able to kill jalal since atga was a barrier of jalal. well he is going down agra fort today, so i dont know what more there is to it.

Now coming to the most important part of my post, the jalal and jodha relationship after this. I totally agree with abhay's post on his thread. Jalal will break down completely as he has lost everyone who he trusted from his childhood time. Now only one person can give him solace and that is his jodha. He has that emotional connect with only jodha. Not even with hamida, probably cause she was away from him in his childhood and maham kept him away from hamida. He used to have it with MA but not completely. He used to open his heart to her only some times like after bakshi betrayed him or after ruks mc. Now jodha will be the pillar of strength which will help him to stand through thick and thin. He will realise that he is not alone and that his soulmate is always there with him. Her life starts and ends with him. She will help him to emerge stronger than before. Like in Abhay's thread, I agree that this is now a very interesting period in the show, where the court and the empire will get transformed. Old mughal blood will be replaced by people of different places and religions. This is the transformation of the mughal rule and also paved way for Akbar becoming great. jajo will be each other's support, jodha now for jalal and jalal for jodha at the time of the death of the twins and sujamal's death. There were a lot of political conspiracies following this and i just hope the cvs do justice to these tracks by showing acceptable NR cause they don need to much of fiction as the history books have the entire script in place! they just need to figure out how to present it.😛

Karishma, regarding your point about Jalal feeling lonely and Jodha supporting him after he realises how alone he is ...
Sangeetha (Lizzy2012) who is into history a lot had once written that slowly we will see more and more "Mughalification of Jodha" and more and more "Amerification of Jalal".
he will treat the Ammer family as his real family thanks to Jodha. And Jodha will treat Jalal and hamida as her real family as she integrates more and more with Mughal ways.
Isn't that a wonderful way to put it?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by karishma.s

hi guys sorry for replying so late. was very busy. Mansi, awsome analysis thanks.😊 Well i too did not expect atga's death in yesterdays episode. But i think we all saw it coming. Atga was totally loyal to jalal till his last breath!! we will miss you atga!! and your hukm ki tamil hogi huzoor!! MA is finally seeing the truth of her life in the jail. But it is too little too late. She will lose adham now after she lost the trust of jalal. I just hope that they show maham going into depression after adham's death and not jalal releasing her from jail and having sympathy for her so that she can plot one more saazish. Seriously im getting worn out of intense MA obsession by the creatives.😡😡 But i dont think that she has the resources to plan other things now. Atleast i hope. I want that on her deathbed she confesses all the other saazishes she has done against jodha. Well according to history, jalal did try his best to sace her. So like in rukaiya;s case for jalal's happiness she might agree to serve maham in her last days. Wherein maham will realise the true worth of jodha and apologise to both before dying. im just hoping so cause i just wnt to get rid of MA now. That is just my view on Maham.
Adham, i dont know what to say about him. He is at this stage because of MA alone. She directed his aspirations in the wrong way. There is a saying that the child follows in the footsteps of his parents. Here maham constantly directed adham's amitions in the wrong way by saying that he could get the takht. Had she just told adham that though I am like mother to jalal and you his brother and though he has given you all the respect, you must not forget that he is the king and we must stay as his loyals till our death. Had she told him that jalal has given us power inspite of us being gulams, be grateful and side your brother till death adham and jalal would actually develop that brother bond. But again maham never let that happen. She kept telling adham that jalal will give us a lot of power, so adham became power hungry like her. She never ever let adham take decisions and learn from those decisions. This is why he in anger that he is nikamma killed atga in frustration to be able to kill jalal since atga was a barrier of jalal. well he is going down agra fort today, so i dont know what more there is to it.

Now coming to the most important part of my post, the jalal and jodha relationship after this. I totally agree with abhay's post on his thread. Jalal will break down completely as he has lost everyone who he trusted from his childhood time. Now only one person can give him solace and that is his jodha. He has that emotional connect with only jodha. Not even with hamida, probably cause she was away from him in his childhood and maham kept him away from hamida. He used to have it with MA but not completely. He used to open his heart to her only some times like after bakshi betrayed him or after ruks mc. Now jodha will be the pillar of strength which will help him to stand through thick and thin. He will realise that he is not alone and that his soulmate is always there with him. Her life starts and ends with him. She will help him to emerge stronger than before. Like in Abhay's thread, I agree that this is now a very interesting period in the show, where the court and the empire will get transformed. Old mughal blood will be replaced by people of different places and religions. This is the transformation of the mughal rule and also paved way for Akbar becoming great. jajo will be each other's support, jodha now for jalal and jalal for jodha at the time of the death of the twins and sujamal's death. There were a lot of political conspiracies following this and i just hope the cvs do justice to these tracks by showing acceptable NR cause they don need to much of fiction as the history books have the entire script in place! they just need to figure out how to present it.😛
Karishma, regarding your point about Jalal feeling lonely and Jodha supporting him after he realises how alone he is ...
Sangeetha (Lizzy2012) who is into history a lot had once written that slowly we will see more and more "Mughalification of Jodha" and more and more "Amerification of Jalal".
he will treat the Ammer family as his real family thanks to Jodha. And Jodha will treat Jalal and hamida as her real family as she integrates more and more with Mughal ways.
Isn't that a wonderful way to put it?


I agree. Anyways agra has given jalal enough backstabs to last him a lifetime. Jalal will gain the family that he always craved to have in the form of jodha's family. He will finally get people who will never backstab him😊, whereas for jodha, she will learn that the mughal heritage is just as rich as the rajwanshi heritage and will accept the mughals wholehartedly cause of her love for jalal. They both are going to begin thier journey as each other's support and sheild😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks for another great analysis. I enjoyed the episode, it was fast, it was fun and at the end it was emotional. To me, the episode marked a kind of interval stage of the movie, some actors leave the show, many others join it.

The story from now on is the most interesting part of the lives of our historical characters. It is the part which is recorded in history books. It is upto the CV's to do it justice, if they can portray the upcoming events in a proper fashion, then we have an exhilarating ride awaiting us.
Edited by Donjas - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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As always I looked to your post as my natural home in the forum. Feel kind of numb today, not much to add. Obviously the unexciting Atga was a constant reassuring presence in our lives.

Unlike many forum friends, I found the Ja Jo nok-jhok in the beginning to be a big yawn. Childish behavior, more suitable for Atga's son and his Rajvanshi princess than for Ja Jo at this stage of their life after all they have been through. However, it did fit the expectations in Indian society on how an ideal couple is supposed to behave within a "joint family". :)


Edited by AKT.JA - 11 years ago

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