Debate Championship Rnd 2: Closed!!!

Hello people!!!!

Welcome to the second round of the KSBKBT Debate Championship!!!!!!


The Topic Is:

KSBKBT has had numerous leaps now, each bringing with it, it's own merits and demerits. On one hand, it brings new characters we have grown to love and cherish, such as Karan, Nandini, Lakshya, KT, Manthan, Bhoomi etc.This leap seems to have brought in a whole new TULSI! On the other hand, we see the same stories repeating with each generation, creating a sort of "old wine in new bottle" situation.... So... What is your take on this phenomena seen so frequently in TV serials, but popularized by KSBKBT???

"Generation Leaps - required???"

Our winner/runner up from the last round, who will be joining us in this round are:

rutumodi915
• -xx-Roohani-xx-

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For Team: Arguing that YES – Generation Leaps ARE REQUIRED.

1. mz.seductive

2. punky~

3. swetlana

4. Pop Princess

rutumodi915 Roohani pari213
1. rajeev_eijaz

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-Kyunki DEV Team-

Generation Leaps are required.

It has become the trait of television, that when serials wane in their overall rating, a generation leap followed by the entry of fresh faces often becomes the order of the day. Ekta started the generation leap trend by triggering them in Kyunki, Kahaani, Kasauti, Kesar etc. Kumkum and Bhabhi followed the trend. So, it is obvious the trend was not a failure.

Generation leaps are welcome signs of relief from a story that has been hooked, cooked and booked countless times. The television industry heavily relies on generation leaps because even the most fanatic viewer will one day lose interest. After all, how long can a viewer watch the same person and their problems again and again? Refreshment is provided by generation leaps. We get to see the point of view of a younger generation, the difference between new generation and the old generation and most importantly – the clash of the ideas of the generations.

Over here in America, weekly shows get seasonal breaks. Unfortunately this is not how it works in India. Commercial aspect does not allow the production house to do so. Therefore, to renovate the serial from time to time generation leaps are required as they bring, with them, new plot lines which help develop the over all idea, as in Tum Bin Jaoon Kahan[main concept was reincarnation] or to keep the story flowing, as seen in Kyunki Saas…

For shows like Kyunki, where the main idea is the rite of passage of it's protagonist (in simpler terms: a biopic) generation leaps are required because it is virtually impossible to keep track of her day to day activities. Take into consideration the movie Guru, which was a biopic. If everyday of Gurukant's life was shown, it would have been boring. The concept required to highlight the most important/powerful points of Dhirubhai Ambani's life. Similarly, the generation leaps, in Kyunki's case, highlight the most important points of Tulsi's life. Picture this. Amarr Upadhyay romancing Smriti Irani while Mandira Bedi tries to break up the couple. This would have been completely irrelevant to the story which actually talks about Tulsi's journey from a daughter-in-law to a mother-in-law.

The television industry flourishes on this vigorous and efficient method – so do people who are struggling for a chance to enter the world of glitzy shows. Generation leaps have brought forth actors such as Manoj Bohra, Tina Parekh who not only have immense talent but are also capable to keep a show running. For example, in KZK, the generation leap brought Manoj Bohra, who quickly won the hearts of millions and raked in surprisingly good TRPs – whereas before the leap, KZK was slowly losing its lustre and failed to elicit TRPs.

That being said, the above was my take on generation leaps. They are a must in shows especially Kyunki which is about Tulsi's rite of passage. Generation leaps are the most convenient and efficient way to elicit TRPs - which matter the most to most channels and production houses.

Originally posted by: mz.seductive

it's protagonist

As soon as I hit the "reply" button, I noticed this error. It is supposed to say " its protagonist " not " it's protagonist"

Oh how I miss my blue color, I guess I have to start getting used to not liking blue anymore…

Anyway, we believe:

Generation Leaps are definitely not a requirement.

To begin with, anything and everything is fine until and unless it is done rightly and more so, in the right proportion. Same is the case with generation leaps. If managed well, not a problem but if not, definitely a problem! So is the case with Kyunki Saas Bhi Bahu Thi.

Generation leaps make it hard for the audiences to relate to the characters. If we see around us, once a generation grows up, the old characters don't vanish, do they? (That would be scary, if the kid becomes 20 and the dad vanishes 😕) Well yeah anyway though, that's the case here. Characters go amiss every now and then, confusing the viewers. There are so many unsolved mysteries that get blown away when the character leaves, adding to the dilemma of the regular audience.

Generation leaps may bring with them fresh faces, but that is not always the right thing to do. The generation leap which brought about Lakshya, KT and all was not needed at all. A lot of plots remained unsolved from the past and the audience constantly kept questioning them. In spite of the introduction of a fresh couple- KT and Lakshya, people pinned for couples from the previous generations, as we see in the forum every now and then. What was the need of this leap then?

The dates and ages are messed up here and there, again confusing the viewers. One day, someone is 67 and the next day she is 72. Well, it's a K-soap though, may be they had a 5 year leap, who knows? Leaps are okay as long as they justified and not non-sensical, but unfortunately, this is not the case with KSBKBT.

Last but not the least, everyone looks fake. No one portrays their own age. Everyone starting from grandmother to granddaughter, pretty much look the same age. That is, again, a good way to confuse the viewers!

These are some of the reasons, why we think generation leaps are definitely not a requirement!

Sorry for the delay, but we will be prompt for here on. the ideas posted here are mine and Roohani's combined brainstorming!

Originally posted by: mz.seductive

Generation leaps are welcome signs of relief from a story that has been hooked, cooked and booked countless times.We get to see the point of view of a younger generation, the difference between new generation and the old generation and most importantly – the clash of the ideas of the generations. [/quote]

How different are the stories? Aren't they still hooked, cooked and booked after the generation leap? Just brining in fresh faces does not gaurantee a fresh story. Nandini gets raped, KT gets raped. Ansh wanted revenge, Eklavya wants revenge. Karan lost his love, Lakshya lost his love. And, whenever Kyunki has taken a leap, we come back to Tulsi fighting for justice in a round-about manner anyway. So, if the focus is always going to stay on Tulsi, what's the point of leaps? If the story is not going to be changed, I see no point in introducing new faces every now and then.

Originally posted by: mz.seductive

Generation Leaps are required.

It has become the trait of television, that when serials wane in their overall rating, a generation leap followed by the entry of fresh faces often becomes the order of the day. Ekta started the generation leap trend by triggering them in Kyunki, Kahaani, Kasauti, Kesar etc. Kumkum and Bhabhi followed the trend. So, it is obvious the trend was not a failure.

i know that it's trait of television but, in generation leap it's nothing much then repeating the story. In every generation leap story have repeated. for example, karan-nandini and laksh-kt. everything happened same. if there was a new story to a generation, i agree but in every serial the history repeats again and again.

Originally posted by: mz.seductive

Generation leaps are welcome signs of relief from a story that has been hooked, cooked and booked countless times. The television industry heavily relies on generation leaps because even the most fanatic viewer will one day lose interest. After all, how long can a viewer watch the same person and their problems again and again? Refreshment is provided by generation leaps. We get to see the point of view of a younger generation, the difference between new generation and the old generation and most importantly – the clash of the ideas of the generations.

you said that how long viewer will watch the same person again and again, well how long can viewer watch the same story repeating again and agian? Everyone wants to see something new day by day. New people, new serials but, there should be a new hot twist too and if not then they should stop taking the generation leap. It's like no point of it if same thing is going to happene again.

Originally posted by: mz.seductive

Over here in America, weekly shows get seasonal breaks. Unfortunately this is not how it works in India. Commercial aspect does not allow the production house to do so. Therefore, to renovate the serial from time to time generation leaps are required as they bring, with them, new plot lines which help develop the over all idea, as in Tum Bin Jaoon Kahan[main concept was reincarnation] or to keep the story flowing, as seen in Kyunki Saas…

KSBKBT story is totally not flowing in the air these days. Before it used to be the first higher rated show but now it no longer belongs higher rated, as the story is so boring and repeating. Virrudh is even rated higher than KSBKBT. If u ask anyone, are enjoying KSBKBT these days? i'm sure that most of the answers will be NO.

Originally posted by: mz.seductive

The television industry flourishes on this vigorous and efficient method – so do people who are struggling for a chance to enter the world of glitzy shows. Generation leaps have brought forth actors such as Manoj Bohra, Tina Parekh who not only have immense talent but are also capable to keep a show running. For example, in KZK, the generation leap brought Manoj Bohra, who quickly won the hearts of millions and raked in surprisingly good TRPs – whereas before the leap, KZK was slowly losing its lustre and failed to elicit TRPs.

i agree that generation leaps have brought up many grate actors and they did won heart of million people. [for wxample i'm pulkit deewani] when there is a leap taken we get to see some new actors and new people but what about a new story? if they can bring new actors in the show then where is the new story?

Pari