Where are you, Ranvi?

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bhaironnath

@bhaironnath

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

Hi ! I do not usually post but read all your views. But yesterday, when I saw Ranvi recording , or rather attempting to, I could not restrain myself. Veerji in his bachpan was an idol for Veera and even for me...he was not only the perfect brother but also a wonderful mother to her. Many a time to ensure Veeras happiness, he has done so ,but at the same time never disrespecting Ratan. He was shown as a boy far ahead of his age, a boy who would never flinch in the face of difficulties...in other words, a perfect son to Sampooran's sarpanch title. Even when he was afraid like in the tiger episode at school, he was strong

But the grown up Ranvi, lacks conviction and strength. I was glad when Ratan and not him became sarpanch, cos hewould have been a misfit. He is portrayed as a nice, simple guy whom everyone can trod on and take for a ride...that was not the Ranvi. He is now constantly looking upto veera or Gunjan for support...he doesnt seem like the man of the house. Felt it more yesterday in the recording incident. He looked so lost,confused...that I actually thought the producer was kind to him. In his place , I might have been even more vocal.

The bond that was there between the children is missing post leap...i cannot find the anokhi rishtha between veera and her veer. In fact, the bond between Veeba is the one that rocks these days

Coming to Baldev...i used to dislike him as a child...but these days, I find him so adorable. Love him and wait for his acenes so eagerly..and yes, i like happy shappy for the initial nok jok...but please CVs do not play it when they romance

So hope, something is done. To bring back the bond..the character needs to be revamped and the actor needs to buck up...

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Kehkelungi

@Poohjabear

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Posted: 11 years ago

I agree with you on most of the points. But I think we should not expect the same RanVeera bond that we saw in the preleap. Preleap main their relationship was focussed on a lot. Ranvi ke liye sirf Veera thi and Veera ke liye sirf uske veerji. Now they have grown older. They just dont have one relationship to handle. Now there are more people in their lives who deserve attn as well. Bas isliye IMO we shouldnt expect the same RanVeera bond that we saw in preleap.

But I completely agree on the fact that Ranvi's character has been butchered. Plus the actor needs to improve a lot!

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suki11

@suki11

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Posted: 11 years ago

Hi, I'm mostly a silent member myself on this forum but have started recently making posts. I agree with pretty much everything you say about Ranvi's character. In childhood he was well-mannered, mature, and caring little boy. Yes he was reserved and sometimes shy and nervous but the vast majority of the time he was confident and didn't depend on others to get what he wanted or needed for either him or Veera.

So its a shame to see him do a 360 degree U-turn in adulthood and become so dependent on others in his life. I know in life their are people who are dubbed 'painfully shy', but sometimes watching Ranvi stammer and blush it's painful for us the audience to watch him. I don't find him funny, or annoying but rather I find it cringe worthy and just wish someone will do something or anything to save him from whatever miserable situation he's found himself in.

And there lies the problem with Ranvi's character he's someone who constantly needs to be saved and sheltered from the big bad world by his kid sister Veera. Really it should be vice versa but the CV'S made Veera a sassy girl who grew up knowing both the ways of the rural pind and all the city tricks.

Whilst Ranvi remained stuck in his happy little bubble in a backwater pind; oblivious to any sort repercussion to the actions he took. For example I hate the fact that he was shocked to find out that due to him not paying back any bank loan repayments for several months that his house was going to be re-possessed. Like seriously who is that naive to expect that the bank wasn't going to take any action?

Also if I'm honest I think Shivin as an actor is doing from good to just about bearable in portraying Ranvi. The blame for Ranvi's characterization can't be layed solely at his door; as no matter how good an actor you are if you role requires you to have an emotional breakdown in every other scene its only so long the audience is going to get sick of you and switch off.

But on the other hand Ranvi's character is supposed to generate sympathy but during the whole Gunjan fiasco I only pitied him; and that that mind you was on a good day as the vast majority of the time I couldn't stand him.

In that instance I'll say it was Shivin's awkward and dis-passionate performance that played a key part.

Nowadays I think Shivin is doing much better especially in the RanJan scenes as Ranvi is shown more confident and bold which I think seeing off screen interviews of Shivin's is a result of Shivin himself being an individual who is comfortable in his own skin.

As for the RanVeera scenes I think the problem is that since the leap most of them have been intense scenes with lots of rhona dona. Either Ranvi consoles Veera or vice versa. There's hardly any masti or normal bro-sis banter.

CV'S screwed up big time not capitalizing on Divin's off screen chemistry. From all the SBB/SBS/E24 clips their always pretty much shown goofing around, pulling each other's legs and having in general a good ole time on set.

Why CV's can't find a track to incorporate that into the show is beyond me.

I'm trying not to set my hopes to high but I'm expecting the whole Nihal re-entry track will re-light the fire in Ranvi. If seeing the man who albeit accidentally yet however still killed his father roaming around his beloved pind doesn't than I doubt anything will.

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Kabshah

@Kabshah

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Posted: 11 years ago

I think to show Ranvi as anokhi maa even after post leap wont sell anymore...he still cares for Veera, and he is still like a mother to her. ..but let us face it, the story has evolved

But what is missing is a strong storyline for Ranvi. I feel Shivin, as an actor, is struggling to fit in. And as i have said before, makers are so obsessed to make Veera (saher se padi likhi) as the only smart person in the village, they have made everyone else without any brain...and thus Ranvi's character is suffereing

Even yester- just so Veera can give such a long lecture to that producer- the makers made Ranvi losing confidence, nervous and what not...so he ended up looking so dumb

If only the makers let Ranvi be Ranvi, and not so obsessed with making Veera the only ONE THAT CAN SAVE THE WORLD

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Kabshah

@Kabshah

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Posted: 11 years ago

i think one very good storyline could be Ranvi playing a BIG villian role in Veeba Love story...Something like he is not at all okay Veera going for Lafanga Baldev, and totally going against it...something like Arbaaz Khan in that Pyar kiya toh darna kya movie...let there be some Vishal-Shivin scenes...there could be drama, comedy etc...what do you think guys?

Or any other storyline for Ranvi?

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IKEAwizard

@IKEAwizard

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Kabshah

But what is missing is a strong storyline for Ranvi. I feel Shivin, as an actor, is struggling to fit in. And as i have said before, makers are so obsessed to make Veera (saher se padi likhi) as the only smart person in the village, they have made everyone else without any brain...and thus Ranvi's character is suffereing

This is the key point here. It's really unfortunate that Ranvi had to be dumbed down for Veera's sake. It wasn't useful at all.

I do want to add that I wished the writers hadn't rushed with the Ranvi/Gunjan relationship. I think they should have taken their sweet time with it (like how they are doing with VeeBa). The way it was done (the accusations, forced marriage, etc) is not what Ranvi as a character deserved. He deserved an admirable, strong personality and a respectable job in the community before getting married. The first two points could be solidified with a few "manly", community-based tracks for him. (Showing him trying to improve the pind, being there for the people, etc). I would have much rather appreciated that.

The whole Ranvi/Gunjan track was wrought with so many mistakes that I'm not even sure where to begin. First off, they shouldn't have made Gunjan negative when Ranvi was courting her. That made Ranvi look like a complete doormat and a spineless fool. Second, Ranvi should not have been pursuing her like he was. Remember the cheesy songs? The cliched moves? IT was all nauseating and really made Ranvi fall in my eyes. Ranvi should have pursued her like a "man of the pind."

@Kabshah: completely agree! I would really hate to see Ranvi being completely indifferent to VeeBa like he always is. He's always been protective of her, especially in Baldev's case. Surely he should be angry that Veera has chosen "such a boy" for herself. I really, really hope to see him be a negative force in the VeeBa storyline.

Edited by IKEAwizard - 11 years ago

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Kabshah

@Kabshah

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Posted: 11 years ago

@IKEAwizard.- so perfectly said

Ranjan story was such a let down. I think Gunjan courting Ranvi could have been a little longer. After all, she had hurt him so much, how could everything be okay within two weeks.

I think there is still so much scope in Ranvi's role. Now he is going to be a famous singer, perhaps, he can relocate to the city, or, glamorous world. Meanwhile, the makers can show Gunjan getting carried away in Saher ki Tadak madak (noticed how she tried to copy that city girl the other day), and Ranvi coping with his new lifestyle will be good (And for god's sake, please do not bring Veera in to solve Ranjan's life)..they can still show Gunjan-Ranvi marital differences due to this change in lifestyle. Gunjan has always been an ambitious girl, and suddenly out of nowhere, within two episodes, she is shown as Garelu Bahu...let her go back to that grey shade..the new Gunjan could be someone who still loves Ranvi but she wants more..;-)

Of course, Ranvi can be shown doing some community work (though I feel that will have any drama, and might be too boring after a while)

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loveispure

@loveispure

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Posted: 11 years ago

i agree completely.ranvii char badly butchered.the best written character preleap turned in to worst char post leap.this version of ranvi is totally intolearable for me.cv & writers butchered it completely.bt bbame goes to shivin as wll.i agree he is getting bakwaas scenes bt vishal has got most of stupid,trackless,ott scenes frm last six months.he was mostly treated as side comedian character,stalker,brainless,useless dreamer.his scenes were fostly fillers.gunjan was butchered badly.innocent girl turned in to vamp.bt still i find her scenes ok.i hav only complain that she got more focus most of times.veera was annoying as well.so every character is butchered & story also ,lost charm.bt then y only ranvi is getting annoying day by day.becoz story is nt impressive anymore.this show is nw depending upon the performances of actor.thatswhy shivin also has to b blamed for his non-performance.romantic scenes always has been his comfort zone.so he is good in romantic scenes.bt in other scenes with other characters he is completely failure especially in ranveera scenes.

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IKEAwizard

@IKEAwizard

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Kabshah
@IKEAwizard.- so perfectly said

Ranjan story was such a let down. I think Gunjan courting Ranvi could have been a little longer. After all, she had hurt him so much, how could everything be okay within two weeks.

I think there is still so much scope in Ranvi's role. Now he is going to be a famous singer, perhaps, he can relocate to the city, or, glamorous world. Meanwhile, the makers can show Gunjan getting carried away in Saher ki Tadak madak (noticed how she tried to copy that city girl the other day), and Ranvi coping with his new lifestyle will be good (And for god's sake, please do not bring Veera in to solve Ranjan's life)..they can still show Gunjan-Ranvi marital differences due to this change in lifestyle. Gunjan has always been an ambitious girl, and suddenly out of nowhere, within two episodes, she is shown as Garelu Bahu...let her go back to that grey shade..the new Gunjan could be someone who still loves Ranvi but she wants more..;-)

Of course, Ranvi can be shown doing some community work (though I feel that will have any drama, and might be too boring after a while)

@bold. Yeah, I should have clarified. I meant that he should have been shown doing community work earlier, before Gunjan fiasco. It would be boring if he did it now (like how boring it was when he was trying to run for Sarpanch). I just wanted to see him as a strong, capable, leader-like character before they married him off. That's what I was trying to get at. He still seemed like a "teenager in lurve" vs. a responsible young man when they married him off to Gunjan. That was a mistake, in my opinion.

I definitely agree that Gunjan needs to return back to being a girl with ambition. What really irks me is that as soon as Gunjan went from negative to positive, they took away her ambition! As if "good" girls can't be ambitious! Maybe it's just the feminist in me, but I was really hurt by that.

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Prii..

@Prii..

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: IKEAwizard

@bold. Yeah, I should have clarified. I meant that he should have been shown doing community work earlier, before Gunjan fiasco. It would be boring if he did it now (like how boring it was when he was trying to run for Sarpanch). I just wanted to see him as a strong, capable, leader-like character before they married him off. That's what I was trying to get at. He still seemed like a "teenager in lurve" vs. a responsible young man when they married him off to Gunjan. That was a mistake, in my opinion.

I definitely agree that Gunjan needs to return back to being a girl with ambition. What really irks me is that as soon as Gunjan went from negative to positive, they took away her ambition! As if "good" girls can't be ambitious! Maybe it's just the feminist in me, but I was really hurt by that.

Sorry to interrupt, but what ambitions did Gunjan have??😳 Fly off to Canada free of cost😆
One good thing they did with her character was to get her out of the whole "Canada obsession".

Edited by Prii.. - 11 years ago

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