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Posted: 11 years ago
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Paro is addressing Shantanu as BHAI SA...why would Rudra get jealous and do you guys think Shantanu will fall in love with someone who calls him Bhai sa?
I think Rudra being overly protective is a possibility but jealous...i don't think so.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Clap clap clap @Oldestfan👏👏...Lovely post. Each & every word bang on ...haven't read anyone's response yet because I am in a rush, will do it later.
I have a feeling that either Dilsher or Mala will be killed by Shantnu & he might get Sunehri pregnant. I would love to be proven wrong,though .
PS...I love it that Rudra isn't trusting him but this will change soon because Shantnu says " very soon this will change " & I know it WILL so our excitement of Rudra not trusting him is short lived.
Edited by babyji - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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...Rudra is THIS suspicious, Shantanu cannot look like the real Jammu/Kashmir officer, and he cannot change that guy's personnel records even if he did kill him and took his place.

Navin, the Thakur long ago had pretty much flaunted his knowledge of BSD turncoats in high places to Rudra. This probably fed in to the fact that Rudra faked Paros death even to the BSD public. Shantanu could be a fake BSD officer, who has stolen the identity of Mr. Dead J&K. This is quite easily done with a little help from his fellow infiltrators. Records can be changed at will, as can DNA tests, pregnancy reports, and any other popular documentation on Indian TV! So yes, he will have an identity that holds up. - and this is why he turned to stone when Danveer talked about finding out his "janam kundali" - he thought the stolen identity and hacked records did not take. He definitely has a line of sight into those records since he fanboyed to Rudra over those previous mission reports!

Rudra would absolutely have access to the original guy's files, and those records would include the army officer's mug-shot.

But if those records are hacked, all he would have is Mr Dimple face! He is probably checking those records right now as we speak!

But one thing that puzzled me, and made me think-- Its what the Knife looked like.

Good catch Navin!

And that made me question whether this guy was a real Army Officer-- in spite of the official looking stamped paper and the to-die-for dimples.

I will go one more step Navin. That appointment letter did not have a signature from VK Singh,, no title to both addressee and sender, and bad grammar! If it were just me, the last would be the dead giveaway, but I would go with no signature and no titles.

Also--- I don't think him being a psychopath would negate him falling for Paro,

Oh but don't psychopaths only love themselves - heres where your knowledge of literary tropes will make me learn a thing or two. However, if right now he is doing nafrat with itni shiddat and lagan, a volte face would seem a bit weak. But then so was the ending of Malas track for some.

And either man--BSD or Psychopath--- will never have come across her potent blend of innocence, openness, her kind heart and her total, un-mitigating love for her husband. She is the light of the house, and the Major's very much loved wife. Its hard not to stare at that, and want something like it for yourself.
Consider two men--the BSD Shantanu (innocent army officer/unaware of brother's evil) OR Pyschopath Shantanu (evil man, aware of terrorism, maybe even a part of the group). Either man will be affected by Paro once they understand her.
Either version of "love" is doomed, of course, in the face of the passion between two soul-mates being guided by Bholenath himself into an eternal love-story.

Navin, my dear, you see, you GET Paro. So do I and a few others who think RR is a balanced love story. But hell, there are millions on this IF forum, from the Rudra shippers and the actress shippers themselves who do not! They think Paros character is paper thin, that she is foolish, that she is flat, that she has no depth, that the actress has been under-utilized. The fans do not get her and neither do the characters - Laila thought she was a gaai, so did Sumer and Mohini. I actually think the odds are stacked against Shantanu seeing that about Paro. The more he stares at the soul connection between Rudra and Paro, the more he (IMO) would hate it, because it reminds him of the price at which it came - his dead brother, whom he has to care about, because if he does not, who else will? Who will justify his own current state of being stark mad?

Either way--I don't see jealousy happening for long (if it even happens, which I doubt).

Jealousy thrives on shadows, on unsaid words and secret fears. Paro has never allowed her Major Saab to stay for long within the darkness of his mind. She will smash away any insecurities with a kiss, a hug and total, devoted love.

AND he will be the better for having had a trial by fire, where he has had to either protect her from a Pyshopath, or learnt to appreciate the miracle he has married when another man also wants her, and she chooses her Major, as she always has, and always will.

Ah Navin! You get me every time! I want to agree with you. I want to buy into this idea. But it requires uncommon talent on the part of the writers and uncommon courage. And total disregard for TRPS, Big Boss and other mundane details. Still, can I just say I love these paragraphs in a mad, no-holds barred way?

Edited by Oldestfan - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: Oldestfan


Jealousy is not attractive. It is corrosive and weakens relationships. A Rudra who trusts nobody, who trusted Paro enough to open his heart to her, becoming jealous shows the destruction of that trust.
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Dear OF,

loved your post and replies here. I liked the way you linked jealousy with trust. Yes, Jealousy is an ugly monster but the same monster will be nothing in a relationship built based on trust. Rudra and paro's relationship is based on love, devotion and trust. Even from the beginning, -when he was her captor and she his captive,- there was trust between these two. And now, She trusts him with everything in her and RUDRA.. well, Major Rudra, we all know abt his screwed up past, his jallad nature but PATI RUDRA is different. He trusts her, he wants protect her and her childlike innocence from the world. She is his everything.. Like rudra said, his beginning..his end..! It will be very difficult play jealousy card with these two.

Also,
Napster, thank you for this, Loved every single word you have written.

Originally posted by: napstermonster

Either way--I don't see jealousy happening for long (if it even happens, which I doubt). And certainly not the kind that poisons love stories and makes girls sleep outside in cold pool-sides and become desperate enough to try and commit suicide because the Rakshas wont speak to them for 6 months. I don't see that kind of relationship destruction here, and not because I have faith in RUDRA's relationship skills, but in Paro's inherent nature.

Paro is so hilariously straightforward, she will simply not allow misunderstandings to occur between her and Major Saab-- the first glimpse of his anger, his uneasy worry or furious rage, and those big eyes will widen, that brain (that works overtime on all things Rudra only) will process the clues and that direct voice will ask Rudra the right questions straight out. And she will flutter around him, pushing and pushing until she knows whats wrong, and then--well, she will talk it out, explain, scold him, fix things--- like she fixes everything in his life.

Jealousy thrives on shadows, on unsaid words and secret fears. Paro has never allowed her Major Saab to stay for long within the darkness of his mind. She will smash away any insecurities with a kiss, a hug and total, devoted love.

AND he will be the better for having had a trial by fire, where he has had to either protect her from a Pyshopath, or learnt to appreciate the miracle he has married when another man also wants her, and she chooses her Major, as she always has, and always will. 👏




---The highlighted ones... BANG ON!! Jealousy is impossible. Why??? I can give you one that covers thousand other reasons. P.A.R.O.
She will not allow it. Its as simple as that. Small sign of jealousy, We will have mrs jallad looking at him with her doe like eyes.. Chiding him.. Her eyes will convey her disappointment at him for thinking like that.. Throw in a bit of sulking...and we will have one cute major..with out of the world expressions trying to apologise for being silly. We might even get to see MAJOR JALLAD SINGING AGAIN!! ( no.. I dont want KUCH KUCH HOTA HAI.. They kind of ruined it for me after the mahasangam. Its no more Rudra and Paro's song ) .and matter solved!! 1001 episodes based on jealousy may work with other desi couple but not wit PARO AND RUDRA.

--kate--
Edited by kate_austen - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35
I think its important that Rudra loves her with all his heart and soul, because she loves him that way.

wow I loved this line, lovely post and I agree with you cent percent.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post dear!
Hmm... this Shantanu character confuses me, for now. It has just been 1 day in the haveli and "I" think there is every chances of him falling for Parvati . He is a psycho, no doubt there, and I highly doubt him being a BSD officer. As I said he is a psycho, his mind can take any direction and can weave a story around nothing ... so him falling/ getting obsessed with Paro is not a big deal, even if he seems to hate her now.


Rudra is not a easy nut to crack, that I had said in a post I had made yesterday. Shantanu had to work really hard to make Rudra trust him. He can use Paro as a pawn to do that. And once Paro starts helping him, then it will be done in a snap...

First I had thought that he will be kept as a mysterious man and will make Rudra's life hell by stalking Paro, but in yesterday's epi he says he is here to make everyone's life hell ... so I dont know what the CV's can come up for the sake of TRPs.

If this shantanu works wrt TRPs he may stay and his character will be explored and if he doesnt than all the beautiful analysis of Baisas like you will lay forgotten and he will be kicked out like Laila ...
Edited by shona_arhilover - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great post and nice replies. While I am not a fan of jealousy, I am thinking of the alternative - hardcore killing, as some kind of honour killing. Somehow that seems so bleak and absolutely not a TRPs pleasing arc. Read an article that says that Shantanu will kill "some people". So no idea where they are going with this 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: shona_arhilover

Nice post dear!

Hmm... this Shantanu character confuses me, for now. It has just been 1 day in the haveli and "I" think there is every chances of him falling for Parvati . He is a psycho, no doubt there, and I highly doubt him being a BSD officer. As I said he is a psycho, his mind can take any direction and can weave a story around nothing ... so him falling/ getting obsessed with Paro is not a big deal, even if he seems to hate her now.


Rudra is not a easy nut to crack, that I had said in a post I had made yesterday. Shantanu had to work really hard to make Rudra trust him. He can use Paro as a pawn to do that. And once Paro starts helping him, then it will be done in a snap...

First I had thought that he will be kept as a mysterious man and will make Rudra's life hell by stalking Paro, but in yesterday's epi he says he is here to make everyone's life hell ... so I dont know what the CV's can come up for the sake of TRPs.

If this shantanu works wrt TRPs he may stay and his character will be explored and if he doesnt than all the beautiful analysis of Baisas like you will lay forgotten and he will be kicked out like Laila ...

Shona, you are saying that Shantanu will fall for her because he is psycho and unstable? I do not think he is psycho in the true sense. He is sociopathic, a terrorist at heart. And the whole Paro Rudra trust thing ... I think he will not succeed at softening Rudra nor getting at him through Paro. Then I think he will either abduct her or put another family member in danger - my prediction!😉 Paro can only push Rudra so much. Even with Mala - if he had not wanted to forgive her in the first place, he would not have. If he makes up his mind about something, nothing and no one, not even Paro can change it. Its a good thing he has never been misguided! And his instinct will not desert him now.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: kate_austen

[Dear OF,

loved your post and replies here. I liked the way you linked jealousy with trust. Yes, Jealousy is an ugly monster but the same monster will be nothing in a relationship built based on trust. Rudra and paro's relationship is based on love, devotion and trust. Even from the beginning, -when he was her captor and she his captive,- there was trust between these two. And now, She trusts him with everything in her and RUDRA.. well, Major Rudra, we all know abt his screwed up past, his jallad nature but PATI RUDRA is different. He trusts her, he wants protect her and her childlike innocence from the world. She is his everything.. Like rudra said, his beginning..his end..! It will be very difficult play jealousy card with these two.

...Jealousy is impossible. Why??? I can give you one that covers thousand other reasons. P.A.R.O.
She will not allow it. Its as simple as that. Small sign of jealousy, We will have mrs jallad looking at him with her doe like eyes.. Chiding him.. Her eyes will convey her disappointment at him for thinking like that.. Throw in a bit of sulking...and we will have one cute major..with out of the world expressions trying to apologise for being silly. We might even get to see MAJOR JALLAD SINGING AGAIN!! ( no.. I dont want KUCH KUCH HOTA HAI.. They kind of ruined it for me after the mahasangam. Its no more Rudra and Paro's song ) .and matter solved!! 1001 episodes based on jealousy may work with other desi couple but not wit PARO AND RUDRA.

--kate--

Thank you Kate. I am very heartened that you, Navin, Hope and many others do not think that jealousy is possible. Paro indeed goes above and beyond to take care of her Major saabs dil! She revived it and received it with so much difficulty after all! 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree. I think, or actually hope, that the CVs are going towards Rudra's insecurity being the force that causes some mayhem between him and Paro. Imagine a situation where Paro interacts with Shantanu being all nice and flirty with her - that would get Rudra's defenses up to the point where he might do something he'll never forgive himself for.


if Rudra distrusts Paro & Shantanu enough and he does something horrible to Paro like accusing her (i.e. going the Othello way), then that might go back to her "even if you beg me, I'll never forgive you" bit. Yes, Rudra and Paro love each other, but how much do they trust each other? During the Mala track, Paro asked him if her love was enough and he said it is. Does that apply to trust? Because love isn't enough, no matter how much you love each other.
Squivi, the way I see it, they trusted each other in a visceral way from the get go. Even when they drew battlelines. Even when they called each other liars. Even when they stood fast in their hatred for each other. ( I use the term loosely here!😉)And trust - trust in Rudra even after the Laila revelation, trust in Paro even after the Mala revelation. So trust was established long before love was mutually declared! And it did not come easily! Trust came to Paro at gun point, after Thakur blew his cover to her. Trust came to Rudra when she time and again stood up for him despite his treating her like dirt. The social worker track, the poisoned laddoo track, the Mala track, and he trusted her even when she tried to run off - thank you a million times over, Maithili!😳
He may want to tear Shantanus flesh from his bones if he so much as looks at Paro, much less tries to talk to her, but he will not mistrust or misunderstand Paro herself. He may just lock her up though, and not allow her to talk to anyone but his mother. Because he thinks that Paro is gullible.😆
Speaking of his mother, I think this might be the chance for Mala to redeem herself through conscious thought and action, not just the usual fait accompli.

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