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Do you think Anandi's methods (mostly) are regressive n uninspiring?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Anandi was great only in childhood. She is effective outside the house as an adult. But at home she is useless (sorry to sound extreme).

She is also parasitic and cannot do anything alone. Earlier she had Bhairon. Then she had DS. Now she has Shiv.

What method does she use?

Nothing. She lets others do blunders one after the other. No one has "changed". All have suffered and learnt from their own mistakes than from Anandi's so called efforts.

Being a passive punching bag or occasional bhaashan machine doesn't give anything.

She only saves her own skin rather. People think maybe she is not bad. That's it.

In past it was Jagya's blunders that made DS wake up. It was problems with Gauri that made Jagya change. And it was rape that changed Sanchi.

Anandi outside home is tactful and actually does something. Inside home she is only a cook, punching bag and food tray carrier!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis

Anandi was great only in childhood. She is effective outside the house as an adult. But at home she is useless (sorry to sound extreme).[BR][BR]She is also parasitic and cannot do anything alone. Earlier she had Bhairon. Then she had DS. Now she has Shiv.[BR][BR]What method does she use? [BR][BR]Nothing. She lets others do blunders one after the other. No one has "changed". All have suffered and learnt from their own mistakes than from Anandi's so called efforts.[BR][BR]Being a passive punching bag or occasional bhaashan machine doesn't give anything.[BR][BR]She only saves her own skin rather. People think maybe she is not bad. That's it.[BR][BR]In past it was Jagya's blunders that made DS wake up. It was problems with Gauri that made Jagya change. And it was rape that changed Sanchi.[BR][BR]Anandi outside home is tactful and actually does something. Inside home she is only a cook, punching bag and food tray carrier!


Good post. I will 100% agree with all your points about anandi. She is not practical and does not use tact to complete a task. To show her mahaanta cvs made shekhar elders as dumb so that she can solve their problems and give bashan. Anandi would have tolerated all the nonsense at her inlaws just like how saanchi is suffering now. I bet she would have tolerated to reform the raphist and the inlaws for the sake of her husband. Anandi already tolerated a lot in singhs family without any hesitance. Why give lectures to outsiders through her NGO to women to go against domestic violence and not to tolerate abuse. She is turning amol like her to tolerate abuse and saying sorry to the people who abused him. Instead she should have told him to tell her his fears. Feeding a kid green chillies is abuse. Disappointed by the whole shekhars including shiv not reprimanding dadi buaa about her torture towards amol. It's sad shekhars became like anandi and tolerating all the nonsense from dadi buaa. Dadi buaa is manipulative and malicious. The VO talk about how old fashioned the lady is and blah blah. Old fashioned people are not so rude and insensitive towards kids or adults. Old fashioned adults don't tell kids that they will mix chili powder in water.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Why blame Anandi...she is the most lovable character, around whom the story moves. Her efforts are the key points that always opens the ways to create a sense of awareness in the society and individuals.
Long live...ANandi ..a beautiful wife, dutiful daughter in law and a loving mom.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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As far as I can see anandi has failed in everything except maybe being a servant and public servant. She's failed in all relations, she's not even a good mother. Anandi only gets praised by her apne because she tolerates the abuse and doesn't feel bad about it. If anything anandi is so use to it she feels nothing for herself, but to subject amol to put up with it is just wrong she's repeating the same mistakes she always does, what is she waiting for, her child to be driven to suicide. She can shout at the singhs but can't do it to the shekkars.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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It depends on tracks. I cannot say her methods are regressive. It is said generally, the good person in serials (as in old Hindi films) suffer silently and do not protest the atrocities- though I have not seen other serials, only Uttaran for a short period of time, and the lead of Uttaran was even more stupid than Anandi. Perhaps this is a compulsion for serial makers - to conform to the tried and tested formula - sympathy for lead because viewers see that people are torturing her, she is suffering but still retains her good behaviour even towards her tormentors.
Child Anandi was daring - without thinking about consequences, she fled from Jaitsar to go to her parents; went to meet Champa even though she knew that people are out to harm her (Champa); went to Mahavir Singh without anyone knowing- she could have held hostage, she could have been harmed. Though children cannot be expected to make decisions after much deliberation, at least the children are not expected to be so daring. The little Anandi could speak her mind and story seemed better during those days (or may be I liked Avika too much).

Adult Anandi is good in patches, in some tracks; stupid in several tracks and has the set characteristic of a good lead of Hindi serials. Somehow I feel that she has not changed anybody. People changed in general due to shocks received (in case of DS - it was Jagya's behaviour, in case of Sanchi - it was rape etc.) and then saw their own bad behaviour towards Anandi and changed their behaviour towards her.

I do not want to comment on her sarpanch days, because the panchayat did not function like it should be under Panchayati Raj System - it functioned like a khap panchayat - taking on cases like personal dispute of Basant and roti chori by Jagya - panchayats are not supposed to handle such cases.

Did not liked her action snatching Mannu from Ratan - did she know that it is illegal, that only courts have power to give custody of the child to one or the other parent? She (and Jagya, Shiv etc.) behaved like some extra-judicial authority, trying to snatch the child from father to give it to mother. Even Shiv, the DC forgot all about lawful means. Did not liked her during Sa-Ja phase either - she never said even Jagya is not right for Sanchi - her objections were Sanchi is not right for Jagya - do only women have to be appropriate for her future husband or the man should also be appropriate for the future bride? She hid a lot of Sanchi's wrongdoings.

Creatives gave some good tracks also - like dayan case or Suhasini case. Generally, she is a good person with golden heart and tries to solve problems, has patient, but never tries to show mirror to a family member (that is because in serials, the good persons are never allowed to do that in name of keeping the family together - a lot of old Hindi movies were also like this).
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Neither is she innocent nor is she stupid and more importantly she is not regressive.
In the current track with RDB(Regressive Dadi Bua) - she is dealing her with patience simply because even though the lady is cranky and unbearable she is helpless old woman who is alone and in need of support.
One question what would people do when they come across a beaten badly treated starved dog/cat which is growling at everybody who comes near it but all the same doesn't go away from you?
Will one kick it to get rid of it ?Because that animal is getting violent and doesn't accept help?
Will one just put some food and ignore all the growls and go about with their own life?
Or should they make sure the food is eaten by that said cat/dog and stay around just to assure that animal that they don't mean any harm???
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She said sorry to that lady not because she felt that she had done wrong but unintentionally she hurt that lady's sentiments.But did she stop doing what she had been doing with her life just because DB is around???
She kept going to her maika which had been her sasural once despite this lady's barbs
She goes for her work
She just does what ever she thinks is right to do so where is the question of her letting DB interfere with her life?
Probably if we came across this lady who constantly criticises us we just tell her to get lost in a rude way
She just told her sorry that you have been hurt with my ways but this is the way I live my life.
She did not enter DB's room but did she stop her life because of DB?
As for handling Amol - Anandi and Shiv both told him to back off to avoid any conflict with her.So that any excuse to behave badly with him are taken away from her.
They made clear to RDB that they will not take this kind of behaviour towards Amol.
Keeping Amol away from all offenders how practical is it?Today it is DB inside their own home tomorrow there will be someone somewhere else. So they are showing him how to handle things in their own way.Why can't Shiv and Anandi teach their methods of handling relationships to their son??
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As for Anandi needing help I don't think she either asked Bhairon Singh for help nor Shiv for help
She did what ever she thought was right and it is they as father and husband stood by her because they felt that she is doing the right thing.
Did Shiv support her when he felt that she was doing wrong by supporting Jagya?
So where is the question of him standing her inrrespective of the whether she was right or wrong?
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People comparing Sanchi's current plight and Anandi
Anandi did not go back to Jagya even when Dadisa wanted her to
She never wanted Jagya back once he went away from her - What he did was not criminal she could have taken him back after all she loved him and more than a husband he has been a good friend to her .Why did she not take him back once he was done with Gauri - Simply because she felt that it is wrong to accept him back after he played with the lives of two women despite her feelings and affection for him.
The lady who did not take back the man she loved so much as to she was willing to die to save his life would she behave the same way as Sanchi is behaving right now in her sasural taking crap from the fellow who raped her????
I am surprised that people assume that she would sit and reform the rapist and his mother🤢
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aparnauma

Neither is she innocent nor is she stupid and more importantly she is not regressive.

In the current track with RDB(Regressive Dadi Bua) - she is dealing her with patience simply because even though the lady is cranky and unbearable she is helpless old woman who is alone and in need of support.
One question what would people do when they come across a beaten badly treated starved dog/cat which is growling at everybody who comes near it but all the same doesn't go away from you?
Will one kick it to get rid of it ?Because that animal is getting violent and doesn't accept help?
Will one just put some food and ignore all the growls and go about with their own life?
Or should they make sure the food is eaten by that said cat/dog and stay around just to assure that animal that they don't mean any harm???
-------------------------
She said sorry to that lady not because she felt that she had done wrong but unintentionally she hurt that lady's sentiments.But did she stop doing what she had been doing with her life just because DB is around???
She kept going to her maika which had been her sasural once despite this lady's barbs
She goes for her work
She just does what ever she thinks is right to do so where is the question of her letting DB interfere with her life?
Probably if we came across this lady who constantly criticises us we just tell her to get lost in a rude way
She just told her sorry that you have been hurt with my ways but this is the way I live my life.
She did not enter DB's room but did she stop her life because of DB?
As for handling Amol - Anandi and Shiv both told him to back off to avoid any conflict with her.So that any excuse to behave badly with him are taken away from her.
They made clear to RDB that they will not take this kind of behaviour towards Amol.
Keeping Amol away from all offenders how practical is it?Today it is DB inside their own home tomorrow there will be someone somewhere else. So they are showing him how to handle things in their own way.Why can't Shiv and Anandi teach their methods of handling relationships to their son??
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As for Anandi needing help I don't think she either asked Bhairon Singh for help nor Shiv for help
She did what ever she thought was right and it is they as father and husband stood by her because they felt that she is doing the right thing.
Did Shiv support her when he felt that she was doing wrong by supporting Jagya?
So where is the question of him standing her inrrespective of the whether she was right or wrong?
---------------------
People comparing Sanchi's current plight and Anandi
Anandi did not go back to Jagya even when Dadisa wanted her to
She never wanted Jagya back once he went away from her - What he did was not criminal she could have taken him back after all she loved him and more than a husband he has been a good friend to her .Why did she not take him back once he was done with Gauri - Simply because she felt that it is wrong to accept him back after he played with the lives of two women despite her feelings and affection for him.
The lady who did not take back the man she loved so much as to she was willing to die to save his life would she behave the same way as Sanchi is behaving right now in her sasural taking crap from the fellow who raped her????
I am surprised that people assume that she would sit and reform the rapist and his mother🤢


Her methods will never work in real life...no one is as dumb as Shekhars and Singhs...people know everything about right and wrong but it's their own attitude that they ignore the right and go for wrong so Anandi's lectures will barely work on them
I am not saying that being implusive and untolerant towards wrong things is good thing...everyone has to make adjustments but Anandi literally sees the wrong things and choose to ignore...there is lot's of difference between an animal and human like DB...people try to adjust better with animals because they know that animals are more easily influenced with the bad things and trauma of their life...DB hasn't compltely lost her mind that she will forget the ethics i.e not to interfere in other people's household...people kick out animals also if their violent behabiours harms the children but here Anandi asks Amol to keep on trying to behave nice with DB...as a mother she should ignore DB and keep a close eye on her actions near her child...in reality DB's continous absuses can cause problems in Amol's mental growth but BV has given a perfect child to perfect couple 😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I'm rather shocked at Shiv's behavior...he did nothing and said nothing to DB when his child was being theretaned...guess that's the difference between being an adopted and biological parent? BV seems to be giving me every proof how much difference does it make to have a adopted child and to have a biological child or maybe Anandi is just a terrible mother who is not ready to handle such responsibilities
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis

Anandi was great only in childhood. She is effective outside the house as an adult. But at home she is useless (sorry to sound extreme).

She is also parasitic and cannot do anything alone. Earlier she had Bhairon. Then she had DS. Now she has Shiv.

What method does she use?

Nothing. She lets others do blunders one after the other. No one has "changed". All have suffered and learnt from their own mistakes than from Anandi's so called efforts.

Being a passive punching bag or occasional bhaashan machine doesn't give anything.

She only saves her own skin rather. People think maybe she is not bad. That's it.

In past it was Jagya's blunders that made DS wake up. It was problems with Gauri that made Jagya change. And it was rape that changed Sanchi.

Anandi outside home is tactful and actually does something. Inside home she is only a cook, punching bag and food tray carrier!

WELL SAID !!! 👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sheetsden


Good post. I will 100% agree with all your points about anandi. She is not practical and does not use tact to complete a task. To show her mahaanta cvs made shekhar elders as dumb so that she can solve their problems and give bashan. Anandi would have tolerated all the nonsense at her inlaws just like how saanchi is suffering now. I bet she would have tolerated to reform the raphist and the inlaws for the sake of her husband. Anandi already tolerated a lot in singhs family without any hesitance. Why give lectures to outsiders through her NGO to women to go against domestic violence and not to tolerate abuse. She is turning amol like her to tolerate abuse and saying sorry to the people who abused him. Instead she should have told him to tell her his fears. Feeding a kid green chillies is abuse. Disappointed by the whole shekhars including shiv not reprimanding dadi buaa about her torture towards amol. It's sad shekhars became like anandi and tolerating all the nonsense from dadi buaa. Dadi buaa is manipulative and malicious. The VO talk about how old fashioned the lady is and blah blah. Old fashioned people are not so rude and insensitive towards kids or adults. Old fashioned adults don't tell kids that they will mix chili powder in water.

Exactly...BV is covering up DB's vicious nature in name of old beliefs...i have met my old
Grannies who believe in custioms like DB but won't create ruckus about such private things in front of men...indecency and narrow mindness are two different things and DB's shows the more of former than latter...if she is just an old lady with old beliefs then why is she so manipulative also...why does she create drama so much and speak nonsense 😡...i know there are women like her in India and many bahus are still submissive in front of such people...that's the reality but what makes Anandi different from those bahus if even she tolerate and gets submissive and sorry in front of her

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