Glossing over something pretty big... (Super long rant!)

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Buckle down, folks, this one's a long rant. And full of what I think will be quite unpopular opinions. 😳 But I just had to get this out...

So, the one thing I'm majorly disappointed to notice this week is that BI seems to be completely glossing over the fact that Zain was physically abusive to Aaliya. I know the general consensus in the forum is that the scene after the Kurbaan Hua dance was "intense and passionate", but while I can agree that Harshad/Preetika have really good chemistry in the scene, I couldn't enjoy that scene at all, seeing how Zain was manhandling Aaliya, twisting her arm, pushing her around, and then grabbing her by the hair. All this while, Aaliya is seen to be in pain, even saying so repeatedly. Her saying that doesn't seem to affect Zain at all though. He's just seen to grab her hair even harder, and demanding answers. Finally, it's her screaming and struggling to free herself that makes him let go by throwing her against the pillar.

I'm sorry, was I supposed to see this scene as romantic, because all I saw was the female lead sobbing and gasping and in obvious pain? (Excellent work by Preetika in this scene, btw. šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘ I could really feel the sheer discomfort and terror of being in a situation like that). Which part of this is the romance again??? šŸ˜•

I am well aware, this situation is not something new, especially in the world of desi serials. For more than a decade now, heroes have been grabbing the heroines, and pinning them up against walls, and snarling at them. It's the regular "go-to" ~~INTENSE scene. But are you trying to tell me that physical violence is the only way to generate intensity in between the leads during a conflict? Isn't this shoddy, and downright irresponsible writing, that your female lead has to be physically intimidated for you to show passion between the leads?

Even after all this, I was hoping against hope itself that this issue would be addressed in the next scenes. But nothing! The fact that Zain was drunk seems to "explain away" his behaviour, like "Oh, he was drunk, he wasn't in his senses, he can't be held responsible for his actions when drunk..." But that has never been a valid reason for any kind of misbehaviour, and isn't in this case as well. Forget even a hint of remorse on Zain's part, even Aaliya doesn't seem concerned or upset that she was thrown around like a rag doll by her husband in a public place. Her reason for leaving to Bhopal is merely that Zain needs "space to think"??!?! He manhandled her, doubted her intentions with Zubair, said things like "Sochta hoon tumhe chod hi doon", "Jao, chod diya", and HE'S THE ONE WHO NEEDS SPACE? She's completely okay with being treated like this? šŸ˜• The last two days (yesterday, and today) episodes show neither Zain nor Aaliya focusing on anything other than their own egos, and childishly fighting with each other's imaginary versions. So this whole issue is being treated like some small, silly tiff between newlyweds??

In this one aspect, I feel Aaliya's character is written even more poorly than Zain's, as in she acts as a doormat when it comes to his bad behaviour. This isn't the first time he's been hurtful, but when does she ever let him apologize? Every time he feels a little bad and just starts to raise his hands to his ears, she'll run in slow motion and hastily pull them down, as if he has absolutely no need to apologize. I get it, it's a running gag or whatever, but lets not forget why it started, she was offering to apologize just to manaaofy him, not because she was actually at fault, and Zain knew this too. Thus, him not letting her apologize is ok. But Zain has been genuinely hurtful time and again, why shouldn't he apologize? Ego is one thing, which has no place in a relationship. But dignity and self-respect is quite another, and Aaliya deserves an apology for Zain's repeated transgressions. And putting up the word "Sorry" on the wall in lights just isn't enough. What's the meaning of the word, when you have no genuine remorse and keep hurting the person again and again? And what he did this time was no trivial matter, he actually hurt her physically.

Seeing that we live in a time where violence against women is in the spotlight (not just in India, but internationally as well, see: Elliot Rodger & the UCSB massacre, just this week), I think it's completely irresponsible for the show to depict violence against the heroine, and then not to even address it ever again, just glossing over it completely. At the very least show Zain reflecting on the things he did, rather than just seeing an imaginary Aaliya taunting him about watching cricket with Zubbu or whatever. Now tomorrow, the I Love Yous will be said, and the fact that something like this happened will be completely forgotten. I had higher hopes from BI, seeing that it was different from shows I'd seen so far. This kind of stuff was expected from an Ekta show circa 2004, where crappy sensationalism was what seemed to get eyeballs. But we are in 2014 now, and I'm really disappointed that BI is being so regressive and no different from a crappy K-show from 10 years ago.

Maybe I'm expecting too much from a desi serial. But am I, really? This is a medium/show that reaches millions, not just in India, but internationally as well. Isn't it time that content providers took some responsibility for the stuff they show 5 days a week? Are we doomed to keep watching misogyny like this in the name of entertainment? I understand that liberties have to be taken with fiction, in order to entertain. But when you, as writers and producers are mindful to show religious issues with the required tact and delicacy, why do you not extend the same courtesies to social issues as well?

TL;DR: Zain was physically abusive, no one (writers, character of Aaliya) but me cares?

My two (hundred, thousand) cents. Your thoughts?

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ZayaShiz thumbnail
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Let me think wat to say n i vil b back!! Res
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Yes! U have a point!!!!! N i agree dat dey did show aaliya's character weak!!!!!
Zain was not like dis...but he was hurt!!! Though he doesnt get d rite to hurt his wife like dat!!
So yes i agree wid u!
Edited by ZayaShiz - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Completely agreed šŸ‘šŸ¼
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ok!! Finally! u have hit teh nail.. i have been thinking an dtalking over this 'problem' i had with teh whoel monday episode..
But couldnt vocalise exactly what i felt was teh problem...

But now reaidng ut post.. its bang on!

The whoel MANHANDLING thing dint go down well with me.. But yes.. i know in Hindi serials it is used to show passion n aggresion... so ok.. accpeted.. but teh reason aaliya gave for leaving did not gel with mešŸ˜•

Again, Zain had a lot of valid points in his arguments, so Zain wasnt totally at fault either. I have no issues with aaliya enjoying with her male cousin. But the circumstances of their relationship in which both are insecure, made zain more so.

One good thing i felt wa sthat zain did NOT suspect her of anytihing untowrad, he just dint like her closeness with her cousin, something he really wished to have with her.

But drinking šŸ˜• thats Zians solution to his problmes??? and raat gayee baat gayee?šŸ˜•šŸ˜•šŸ˜•

Both are in teh wrong acc to me,. zain in his attitude, and aaliya in her POV.

Aaliya shud have ben plain pissed n angry for zains actions..

Itna understanding hona doesnt gel with me
Edited by Loquacious_Aash - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree with everything you have to say. I for one would definitely be terrified if I were manhandled by the one I love. I agree that CVs of any show, not just Beintehaa, have a responsibility in terms of what they show us on screen. Manhandling and abuse are NOT intense. They are horrible. So glamorizing these issues is in no way acceptable.
That being said, I always remind myself that it is just a show. At the end of the day, most things we see on celluloid won't happen in our real lives the way they are portrayed anyway. So I tend to let it go.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Apparently in the race of TRP-pulling and holding up audience's interest, creatives and writers tend to digress from social issues. It's always possible to show things differently but very few have the courage to walk on new path.
Unfortunately, this is the state of desi TV shows and instead of bringing this to creative's notice audience end up arguing with each other justifying actions of the leadsšŸ˜”.
I say, let CV's explain the need to include this manhandling 😳.
Edited by Nels - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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its just not u ,many ppl didn't like that scene especially hair pullng one...n that's been repeated second tym.n show..
zain is not that type of typical angry illogical male leads...i tght so far...i've alreday tweeted that very same day to d makers..hope that's last mistake n they will not repeat again...

BI itself is unique n beautiful show n characters like zain n aliya r d usp..just to show sum intense n so called romance they cant ruin d very character that we fall in love by showng sum crappy, nonsense n overatted OTT scenes just for a change..BI shuld bettr stick with originality n sum diffrrnt that used to be thr trademark...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Loquacious_Aash

One good thing i felt wa sthat zain did NOT suspect her of anytihing untowrad, he just dint like her closeness with her cousin, something he really wished to have with her.



True, he didn't suspect of anything messed up between Zubbu/Aaliya, but in my opinion, that makes this outburst of his even more unwarranted. Like, is that even a reason to get drunk and manhandle your wife? That she laughed and talked to her cousin, who she hasn't seen in god-knows-how-long? Zain has a LOT of growing up to do. They've thrown almost all character growth of Zain over the past few months away thanks to this one track. šŸ˜•

Originally posted by: iAkshata

That being said, I always remind myself that it is just a show. At the end of the day, most things we see on celluloid won't happen in our real lives the way they are portrayed anyway. So I tend to let it go.



I agree, it's fiction. But like I said, they are very careful when they show the religious aspects of the show, lest anyone's sentiments get hurt by seeing things that aren't too correct. Then why not pay the same respect to issues like violence against women, which currently is so so important? I can't believe that there is no one in the production house who even realises these things.

Originally posted by: Nels

Unfortunately, this is the state of desi TV shows and instead of bringing this to creative's notice audience end up arguing with each other justifying actions of the leadsšŸ˜”.

I say, let CV's explain the need to include this manhandling 😳.



I would actually love to bring this post to some creatives' notice, and get an answer. Do you know who I can maybe tweet this to?




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: darkness_123


I would actually love to bring this post to some creatives' notice, and get an answer. Do you know who I can maybe tweet this to?


You can tweet this to the director, Maan singh or send a message on Facebook to Farhan, the producer. Your best bet would be Farhan as that guy always replies to feed backs.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: darkness_123




I would actually love to bring this post to some creatives' notice, and get an answer. Do you know who I can maybe tweet this to?


As Gagan said, tweet it to the director Maan Singh. He is on twitter. Mr. Producer, Farhan is on FB I guess.
And more over you can also post to the Channel who is trying to address social issue through their other show BV. If they can address there why to even show in their other shows?
Edited by Nels - 11 years ago

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