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Posted: 11 years ago
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Carry on Anandi,
Campaign for Jagya, urge him to fight and walk him through his fears and tears. Do this though you were once the sarpanch who defeated Heth Singh.
Just forget that stupid past and beam through J's spanking new political career. Maybe you can do some nursing along with Ganga to save the hospital which seems to have a knack for getting the most complicated cases, from IVF to coma to the toughest surgery. Just do a quick two-month course and save the hospital while J attends the assembly session in Jaipur and gives a speech that stuns everybody.
Campaign in reel life, campaign in real life. On your 'real-life' urging, women turned out in huge numbers to vote in this election. Beam through the turnout news as you always do.
Go Anandi, go.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I have already said what I wanted to say on this.
Shame on people who want to settle for 30% when the rightful share is 49%
I'd rather see people work in the society at grass roots so that an able person whether man or woman the best candidate gets selected and that day 49% will be women in the law making bodies.
Let the likes of Anandi and Dadisa work towards the change in the society.and be the real heroes and Anandi enter politics as the real hero because people wanted her.
People who make noises about what is being shown in a show should go try and talk to those some very educated women who take to online platforms just to say that they only want to see Anandi as a wife mother and think that her social work is a waste of time and who believe that her husband and his family should be everything for her and her adopting a child is also a wrong thing because she should keep herself busy by trying to give them biological heir.
Why blame the makers when the people who watch their show are so regressive????
My question to that people who are so contemptuous of the content in the fictional show how do they propose to bring change in the mindset of the regressive Dadibuas of the real world and real people???????
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yes of course, wear the longest pallu ever to please your dadi bua, keep stirring pots of dal, make endless cups tea -- in BH and KB -- and just say I'm happy doing this so that we can all say, "see, she is happy doing this. What matters is not the pallu nor the stirring of the dal, but that she is happy doing this."
So women should strive to make real changes while the men rule the world of power politics? Why then does Toral as Anandi ask women to vote in greater numbers? Only so that they can elect more and more men? But then that is in sync, isn't it? In BV too women vote only so that men can rule.
If BV's real audience is so conservative, why the pretence and the preachy messages at the end? If after 6 years, they have not managed to convince anyone, why bother with the message?
Or is that why they have shoved Anandi back into the pallu after getting her out of it with so much difficulty?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am not sure which section of educated women are being talked about here and not sure why it is assumed that the so-called educated women want to see Anandi just as a home-maker.
If we go back to the pages in forum, almost a year back people did share their expectations of seeing Anandi in various hi-fi professions, but our Anandi loves to remain a bahu and finds more interest in interfering in lives of others instead of a well-built career, so what can one hope for, out of her?

Obviously, if CVs are telling us that super women like Anandi exist who can run NGOs like Bhali just by carrying trays at home forever, running to maikas at the first opportunity, and keep doing non-value adding activities then that's just crap. Why blame the viewers if makers are not convincing?

The educated women, who are also wives, mothers, DILs and employees (owners) probably understand what it takes to be successful. They probably know concepts like planning, studying, focus, balance, forecasting, career planning, competition etc which Anandi does not know or practice. For Anandi, the formula to success is just giving mere lectures including to those in coma.

Should real people still praise Anandi for the number of goof-up she does, because if they don't then they are classified as regressive.

Nobody wanted Anandi to sit at home playing sasural se sasural tak, but then we also don't want confused souls in the name of leadership. Post marriage, If Anandi couldn't set priorities for her own life, what will she when it comes to society?

I never expected any political track for Jagya, but at least the guy has set his priorities straight. His personal and professional life is well set and well balanced as of today, and only after that he moved into this venture.






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Posted: 11 years ago
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Coming to politics, it's not about man or woman. It's about who will make the right leader.
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Anandi is a very influential character and if she was shown to get into politics properly, it would have had a huge impact on women / society

But the same influential character is shown to be a super-woman in the name of a good sanskari bahu, which is actually bringing out wrong influence on the society.

At the end of the day its all about TRPs. Makers will show what fetches them profits. For them, tear-jerking scenes bring more trps than straight progressive tracks. And that's what they show.

For me, the only take home message from this show was that if your son has abandoned your DIL, then it may not be your DIL's fault always. Sons can be wrong too, and abandoned DILs have right to live with respect / pride.

The rest is mere show / entertainment.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rohini55

Carry on Anandi,

Campaign for Jagya, urge him to fight and walk him through his fears and tears. Do this though you were once the sarpanch who defeated Heth Singh.
Just forget that stupid past and beam through J's spanking new political career. Maybe you can do some nursing along with Ganga to save the hospital which seems to have a knack for getting the most complicated cases, from IVF to coma to the toughest surgery. Just do a quick two-month course and save the hospital while J attends the assembly session in Jaipur and gives a speech that stuns everybody.
Campaign in reel life, campaign in real life. On your 'real-life' urging, women turned out in huge numbers to vote in this election. Beam through the turnout news as you always do.
Go Anandi, go.


@bold - we cannot mix reel with real. Toral was perhaps selected to urge women to vote because of her reach to women through the popularity of Anandi - the character (taking advantage of her reel persona for real life). As Anandi in serial though - she has to do whatever creatives decide. Creatives have to come out of their patriarchal mindset only then Anandi can do anything in reel life.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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If we take walk in the virtual world we will get to see all these things.
Anybody who says that there should be more to Anandi's life than just being wife and mother are heavily criticised and abused for expressing such views.
Perhaps one should try and reason with those people before taking on the show for so called regressive content after all that content is only fiction.
Those views come out of inherent regressive mentality and not because of the show
People who believe that a woman should confine herself to doing sewa of her husband's family and live to satisfy husband's needs and a husband who is supportive of his wife's decisions is jhoru ka ghulam
These happen to be the views of the women in real world how does Anandi becoming an MLA change the views of these women???????
These are not my views infact I wanted Anandi to stay single for sometime and make a life for herself expand her activities beyond Jaitser much like everyone who watched I too liked the fact that someone like Shivraj Shekhar entered her life but I have always said that I wanted her to make an identity for herself even in Udaiput
As for the show I don't think they have shown their men or women characters as regressive.
The show is a family drama whether people like it or not Saas bahu beti damad beta will be there
They have never shown so called kitchen politics were women were shown to be doing one upmanship to get control over the family.
They have shown family drama which comes naturally when people or rather family members with different mentalities live under the same roof.
They have not really shown her as someone just carrying trays but they did tell thru the story that her social work was getting her recognition which we would have liked to see her doing more of.
I guess people who want to see more of her social service are less in number than the people who wanted to see her being wife and bahu they obviously had to reach a compromise between the viewers demands and what they wanted to show.
They are telling the story of a social worker with a past and how she balances her relationships from past with that of present commitments by choosing the middle path of telling the story they wanted to and showing what the major section of viewers wanted to see.
If the people really wanted to see Anandi making a difference in the society the episodes where adult litearacy programme was run by her, episodes when Bhaili was opened and she was getting those bars closed down or her Ithwari bazar scenes or the recent Suhasini's story would not have had such low TRPs
People want to see women carrying trays and that's what they think women are for and unfortunately they are in much larger numbers
Anybody who makes the show has to reach to them and even if they want to tell a story which is very different from what the viewers are used to they have to use the same format family drama I think they should be given credit for that for trying to tell a different story inpsite of all these constrainst they did manage to convey that their lead is a socially conscious woman.Even though the most important events which are socially relevant happened in her family and she made impact through them.
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Since the issue of women who got elected was brought up I have questions
Among the women who got elected how many of them have family connections ? How many of them are movie stars?
If you deduct these two categories how many of them got elected on their own merit?????
What difference is there between a man who gets elected because of family connection and a woman who gets elected because of family connections ????
What guarantee is there that these women will work for the betterment of other women in the society???
What guarantee is there that right people come in with 30% reservation????
It's all very well to talk about inequality between genders but it is more important to work to bring change at the lowest level.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aparnauma

If we take walk in the virtual world we will get to see all these things.

Anybody who says that there should be more to Anandi's life than just being wife and mother are heavily criticised and abused for expressing such views.
Perhaps one should try and reason with those people before taking on the show for so called regressive content after all that content is only fiction.
Those views come out of inherent regressive mentality and not because of the show
People who believe that a woman should confine herself to doing sewa of her husband's family and live to satisfy husband's needs and a husband who is supportive of his wife's decisions is jhoru ka ghulam
These happen to be the views of the women in real world how does Anandi becoming an MLA change the views of these women???????
These are not my views infact I wanted Anandi to stay single for sometime and make a life for herself expand her activities beyond Jaitser much like everyone who watched I too liked the fact that someone like Shivraj Shekhar entered her life but I have always said that I wanted her to make an identity for herself even in Udaiput
As for the show I don't think they have shown their men or women characters as regressive.
The show is a family drama whether people like it or not Saas bahu beti damad beta will be there
They have never shown so called kitchen politics were women were shown to be doing one upmanship to get control over the family.
They have shown family drama which comes naturally when people or rather family members with different mentalities live under the same roof.
They have not really shown her as someone just carrying trays but they did tell thru the story that her social work was getting her recognition which we would have liked to see her doing more of.
I guess people who want to see more of her social service are less in number than the people who wanted to see her being wife and bahu they obviously had to reach a compromise between the viewers demands and what they wanted to show.
They are telling the story of a social worker with a past and how she balances her relationships from past with that of present commitments by choosing the middle path of telling the story they wanted to and showing what the major section of viewers wanted to see.
If the people really wanted to see Anandi making a difference in the society the episodes where adult litearacy programme was run by her, episodes when Bhaili was opened and she was getting those bars closed down or her Ithwari bazar scenes or the recent Suhasini's story would not have had such low TRPs
People want to see women carrying trays and that's what they think women are for and unfortunately they are in much larger numbers
Anybody who makes the show has to reach to them and even if they want to tell a story which is very different from what the viewers are used to they have to use the same format family drama I think they should be given credit for that for trying to tell a different story inpsite of all these constrainst they did manage to convey that their lead is a socially conscious woman.Even though the most important events which are socially relevant happened in her family and she made impact through them.
--------------------
Since the issue of women who got elected was brought up I have questions
Among the women who got elected how many of them have family connections ? How many of them are movie stars?
If you deduct these two categories how many of them got elected on their own merit?????
What difference is there between a man who gets elected because of family connection and a woman who gets elected because of family connections ????
What guarantee is there that these women will work for the betterment of other women in the society???
What guarantee is there that right people come in with 30% reservation????
It's all very well to talk about inequality between genders but it is more important to work to bring change at the lowest level.


Superb post...Aparna

@ bold - 👏 ⭐️
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Toral was invited by the Election Commission to strengthen their call for a higher voter turnout of women because she plays Anandi -- who is considered progressive and therefore fit to issue the appeal. Toral by herself would have meant noting to the EC.. So the reel and real have already been mixed, and Colors knows that only too well.
I refuse to believe that Anandi's election as the sarpanch track did not click. We at the forum loved the fact that she had entered politics. I would like to know if anyone at least on this forum felt it was an unwise step and she should have restricted herself to adult education and cooking. I personally was thrilled by the track.
When Shiv entered, he was fascinated by A's performance as the sarpanch. Who can forget the nehar track where she told him how to build the canal, how to persuade the villagers to come around? Were these not better tracks than the fleeting Bhaili stuff she does now?. I just cannot relate to the current Anandi except in her relationship with Shiv. That is the strongest story element post-marriage.
If people outside are conservative, why should we feel restricted by it? If CVs are following the conservative mandate, let them not preach and send out messages.
Where is the guarantee that women politicians will perform better? Of course there is no guarantee. But why is this question never put to the men with regard to themselves? The strictest standards will be applied only to the women?
It is too patronising to argue that women should strive for real change and keep voting men so that they keep the controls in their hands.
Anyway if it is all of your opinion that Bhaili is good for A and the MLA track for J, and the latter simply because he is a man and a waaris of the BH, who am to oppose it?
I'm happy to be in a minority.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Let me also clarify that I brought up politics for Anandi only in the context of Jagya getting the track.
I at least waited so long for this track seeing it as a natural progression for A from Sarpanch. It did not happen and I said nothing.
But when it finally happens, it goes elsewhere which strengthen the conservative argument that in the end only men can be in power politics no matter how much better qualified the women are than them
If politics was a no-no, the CVs should have never made A a sarpanch.

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