What do you want Jodha to tell her Mom on Monday? - Page 8

Originally posted by: aashyagh

Divya, what all you expected Jodha to say to her Mom? Beti ne kuch nahin kahan, but Mother showed her some reality. You expect too much from a guroor ki moorthi, 😡😆

You have completely forgotten what Jalal tells her when he is pleading with her at the water body in Mathura, after having fished her out of it. He does not then make any reference to Hamida or Rahim, but talks only about his deep repentance for his gunaah.

Most important, as far as negating your argument here goes, he says very clearly Hum abhi aapke bina ek pal bhi nahin reh sakte! She looks back at him blankly, which is her usual response, unless she does one of her by now favourite imitations of a mumps patient.

I do not see where he was asking her to come back to keep his house in order. Please do not put words in Jodha's mouth that make her sound even more foolish that she already is, Raksha, there is a good girl!😉.

This time, Jalal has had enough of begging and pleading, though he does fold his hands and bow his head, unbelievable in an alpha male emperor in the 16^th century (do try and see if you can extract a similar gesture from your husband/boyfriend the next time he fights with you) and asks her to come back. So he gives it to her straight from the shoulder for the first time in this abysmal track.

She is shocked to see the worm turn, and of course she is stupid enough to refuse his plea. Plus she repeats all her tired old formulations, as if she had fulfilled all her marriage vows to love, honour and obey her husband, not to speak of the unwritten but very well understood duty fo every royal wife, to give him an heir. But then Jodha Begum deals only in rights, not in responsibilities.

She should have been married to a tough Rajvanshi king, with a shrewd, acid-tongued saas, who would both soon have tamed her the rough way, and taught her what marriage for a princess in those days was all about. No one in Amer would have lifted a finger to support her; it was unheard of then for a woman to defy her husband and in laws in anything, and she would have been condemned by all and sundry if she had even tried to return to Amer. The inlaws would never have let her go, they would have locked her up.

I was delighted that Mainavati told her last night that no Rajvanshi husband would have come to his sasural to take back a wife who had left her matrimonial home, and that Yeh Rajvanshi parampara ke viruddh hai. And that to have a husband like Jalal was a bhagya for Jodha. Exactly what I been saying again and again here, most recently in this response .

Here she has this cheerleader of a saas and a marshmallow of a husband, so she sulks and has tantrums and runs away from a situation that she has herself created. She knows this, which is why she had no credible answer when he accuses her of that at long last.

If she sticks to the attitude favoured by you, she should just stay put in Amer for keeps. Soon enough, the other women would, one by one, have started mocking her as a parityakta, and her life would have become miserable. One could NOT leave one's husband and come back to one's maayka in those days, and very often not even now.

As for your future husband, my well meant advice to your would be not to carry on the way Jodha does, for I cannot see where you will get a Jalal-clone to hang around you and put up with all your tantrums!😉

Originally posted by: rpeez

A few lines to add,

Even when he asked me to come it was,

"I want you to come back because I promised ammijaan, and Rahim.

This is the last time I am asking you."

But, doesn't he want me for himself? Doesn't he love me enough to tell me that he wants me in his life? We have been in this relationship for evryone possible, Amer, his Ammijaan and Rahim, Awaam, perhaps even the stray dog that eats left overs from royal bawarchikhaana? But, what about him? Am I just a way to keep peace in the palace?

He talks of my ghuroor? What about his own? He spoke his love for me was soiled due to my infidelity, what about it, now? Doesn't it exist anymore. Repentance is good, but, what's better is future. There will always be people who will try to drive us apart, I can't handle an emotional breakdown every fortnight, because, you doubted me. We've had enough misunderstandings, to dust ourselves and move on as if nothing happened. Those times it was nothing, maybe friendship at best, but now I love him. And I am too much a woman to go to a man, who wouldn't admit to his love, who even in his drunken stupor refers to me as his pasand, nothing more.

I know quite a few have sword drawn out after reading this, but pardon me, no matter what, if my husband (if and when that dude comes) came to me and asked me to get back in his life, because he needs someone to keep his house in order, I would say a no.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Raksha,

As I wrote in my response to your comment on these same lines (but here you have amplified at will on the theme) on my The Baazigar post,nice try, but it will not wash. You cannot make selective quotations from what Jalal has been telling Jodha to try and whitewash her.

You have completely forgotten what Jalal tells her when he is pleading with her at the water body in Mathura, after having fished her out of it. He does not then make any reference to Hamida or Rahim, but talks only about his deep repentance for his gunaah.

Most important, as far as negating your argument here goes, he says very clearly Hum abhi aapke bina ek pal bhi nahin reh sakte! She looks back at him blankly, which is her usual response, unless she does one of her by now favourite imitations of a mumps patient.

I do not see where he was asking her to come back to keep his house in order. Don't put words in Jodha's mouth that make her sound even more foolish that she already is, Raksha.😉.

This time, Jalal has had enough of begging and pleading, though he does fold his hands and bow his head, unbelievable in an alpha male emperor in the 16^th century (do try and see if you can extract a similar gesture from your husband/boyfriend the next time he fights with you) and asks her to come back. So he gives it to her straight from the shoulder for the first time in this abysmal track.

She is shocked to see the worm turn, and of course she is stupid enough to refuse his plea. Plus she repeats all her tired old formulations, as if she had fulfilled all her marriage vows to love, honour and obey her husband, not to speak of the unwritten but very well understood duty fo every royal wife, to give him an heir. But then Jodha Begum deals only in rights, not in responsibilities.

She should have been married to a tough Rajvanshi king, with a shrewd, acid-tongued saas, who would both soon have tamed her the rough way, and taught her what marriage for a princess in those days was all about. No one in Amer would have lifted a finger to support her; it was unheard of then for a woman to defy her husband and in laws in anything, and she would have been condemned by all and sundry if she had even tried to return to Amer. The inlaws would never have let her go, they would have locked her up.

I was delighted that Mainavati told her last night that no Rajvanshi husband would have come to his sasural to take back a wife who had left her matrimonial home, and that Yeh Rajvanshi parampara ke viruddh hai. And that to have a husband like Jalal was a bhagya for Jodha. Exactly what I been saying again and again here, most recently in this response .

Here she has this cheerleader of a saas and a marshmallow of a husband, so she sulks and has tantrums and runs away from a situation that she has herself created. She knows this, which is why she had no credible answer when he accuses her of that at long last.

If she sticks to the attitude favoured by you, she should just stay put in Amer for keeps. Soon enough, the other women would, one by one, have started mocking her as a parityakta, and her life would have become miserable. One could NOT leave one's husband and come back to one's maayka in those days, and very often not even now.

As for your future husband, my well meant advice to your would be not to carry on the way Jodha does, for I cannot see where you will get a Jalal-clone to hang around you and put up with all your tantrums!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: aashyagh

Divya, what all you expected Jodha to say to her Mom? Beti ne kuch nahin kahan, but Mother showed her some reality. You expect too much from a guroor ki moorthi, 😡😆

Originally posted by: munnirony

mother ne hi sab kuch keh diya. 👏but im still pissed off with the CVs. whtever maybe the issue they r not even mentioning jodha's fault, not even mainawati said anything about jodha's fault in jalal's misunderstanding.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Raksha,

As I wrote in my response to your comment on these same lines (but here you have amplified at will on the theme) on my The Baazigar post,nice try, but it will not wash. You cannot make selective quotations from what Jalal has been telling Jodha to try and whitewash her.

You have completely forgotten what Jalal tells her when he is pleading with her at the water body in Mathura, after having fished her out of it. He does not then make any reference to Hamida or Rahim, but talks only about his deep repentance for his gunaah.

Most important, as far as negating your argument here goes, he says very clearly Hum abhi aapke bina ek pal bhi nahin reh sakte! She looks back at him blankly, which is her usual response, unless she does one of her by now favourite imitations of a mumps patient.

I do not see where he was asking her to come back to keep his house in order. Please do not put words in Jodha's mouth that make her sound even more foolish that she already is, Raksha, there is a good girl!😉.

This time, Jalal has had enough of begging and pleading, though he does fold his hands and bow his head, unbelievable in an alpha male emperor in the 16^th century (do try and see if you can extract a similar gesture from your husband/boyfriend the next time he fights with you) and asks her to come back. So he gives it to her straight from the shoulder for the first time in this abysmal track.

She is shocked to see the worm turn, and of course she is stupid enough to refuse his plea. Plus she repeats all her tired old formulations, as if she had fulfilled all her marriage vows to love, honour and obey her husband, not to speak of the unwritten but very well understood duty fo every royal wife, to give him an heir. But then Jodha Begum deals only in rights, not in responsibilities.

She should have been married to a tough Rajvanshi king, with a shrewd, acid-tongued saas, who would both soon have tamed her the rough way, and taught her what marriage for a princess in those days was all about. No one in Amer would have lifted a finger to support her; it was unheard of then for a woman to defy her husband and in laws in anything, and she would have been condemned by all and sundry if she had even tried to return to Amer. The inlaws would never have let her go, they would have locked her up.

I was delighted that Mainavati told her last night that no Rajvanshi husband would have come to his sasural to take back a wife who had left her matrimonial home, and that Yeh Rajvanshi parampara ke viruddh hai. And that to have a husband like Jalal was a bhagya for Jodha. Exactly what I been saying again and again here, most recently in this response .

Here she has this cheerleader of a saas and a marshmallow of a husband, so she sulks and has tantrums and runs away from a situation that she has herself created. She knows this, which is why she had no credible answer when he accuses her of that at long last.

If she sticks to the attitude favoured by you, she should just stay put in Amer for keeps. Soon enough, the other women would, one by one, have started mocking her as a parityakta, and her life would have become miserable. One could NOT leave one's husband and come back to one's maayka in those days, and very often not even now.

As for your future husband, my well meant advice to your would be not to carry on the way Jodha does, for I cannot see where you will get a Jalal-clone to hang around you and put up with all your tantrums!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: divyavm

As I said in my take 5, I have no more expectations that Jodha will say anything. 😆