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Posted: 11 years ago
#91
Mansi, i liked yesterday episode.

so BRAKING news, is this, BM, CID works better, then AGRA, C I D, 😆 😆so all predictions, became false, &jalal reached, AMER.😆

AM, attacked, jalal again shows, &quest'd jalal security, ARMY deparment HOW much weak, so jalal should now aware of this.

Sikka, giving by jodha, saves jalal's life,where he fighting with AM, here jodha, was praying, GANGUAR, pooja, &praying, for jalal's safty.

(is this is not jodha's love, which person, doughted her character, not listening her words, &said harshely, leave this place;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;she is praying for him, &her sick sence is indicating, he is facing some problem, then she repairs, NECKLACE, preserves, blessengs of GAURI MAA, IS not shows love of jodha, or how much she worried for jalal, also shows.

HOW can we denay it ?

AM punished by jalal, & jalal clears,( because he taunted jalal, about jodha matter, ) now his aim is how he will acchieve love of jodha.

AM lost his one EYE;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; (EKTA copied it AAP AYYA BAHAR AYEE, where PREM CHOPRA lost his one eye) or its realty, then ABHAY maybee knows It.

jalal knows he is in AMER,

BM clears, how he reached AMER.

jalal, confusen starts here, HE knows, jodha is up-set with him. so GOD again give him, chance, to patch-up jodha. but jodhu has gone for GANGUAR POOGA,

jalal recalls, some decent movements, last year GANGUAR, so he goes to meet, jodha this critical condition.

when he recalls, refelection of his river water, then he decided to go, where is JODHA

(actually he wants jodha will again see his refelection, & when she will see, her angryness will be less, &she will be think again;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;their realtionship, which has been broken,
maybee, smooth.

( so if one realtion is breaking staze, or we want, that realtion, should not break, then we choose every little step, because we not know, which step will be worked;;;;;;;;;;;;;
that is jalal doing.)

if we say he was to injured, RIGHT, BUT as mind or heart level he was feeling more pain, so he decided to go to GANGUAR PLACE, because he will sit realax, in AMER, when he talked with jodha.

Jodha sees jalal reflection, MV says, this time please NO RAIN, NO STROAM, means MV also wants, things should be sorted out.

MV wants, now jodha should be think, jalal is my companion, i should accept now, leave past matters,
NEW way is coming, start new journey now. now no AGRA, she has time, so she should think about it.


MV observes, her daughter, is thinking about all time jalal.

SO when parents know, what is happening in their child's mind, then if that things or realtion poistive for them , then thy tried their best;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;so that thing,or that realtion if damaging, they wants to be sorted out.

MV also doing that. because if a realtion fully dead, no chance, then anothers method.

(this is not child igo, this is un-maturity, both sides, LESS OR MORE, can bee)


Jodha feels everywhere she is seeing jalal, so she confused, when she sees, jalal in her HOZARA.

first jodha not get time to console herself.

when a person feels deep pain, he or she not able, to see, what he or she wants, or what she or he should do now?
1; SHE not knows, jalal has realized, more, she was only thinking, he is saying sorry, if she will go him with AGRA,
again ome will happen, again this staze, again deep pain, then what she will do

2;;she not knows she has attacked.

when she suddenely sees, she first confused, but when jalal touched, then she some awares
but then suddenely thought comes;
Shahahnshah, has come to AMER, he will again say her for AGRA, so, why she would go to AGRA, when he own says me leave AGRA,
SO she says, she will not go to AGRA,then she watches he some injured.

3;;BM comes, because he knows, HIS daughter & son-in law, have some dis-putes, Disputes will not increase, so some talk needed to JODHA.

4;;He clears, Jalal situation, very meaning fully, also awares, jodha, he is your husband
we respect our guests, you love birds, why you some , tough type, your nature is not like this.

5;;jodha listening, & accepting, is not jodha's learning?

actually BM or MV not knows where AKDHA realtionship standing?
but they both knows, both love & care for eachother, but some TIME or TALKS needed both of them.

so they are creating space, &atmosphere, using reverse, method. they also want, they both should talk.

BM straight, & MV, teda method, so both will know how imp, they for eachother.

i liked yesterday BM, MV , how they tackling their daughter & son-in law, without touching their dignity.

This matter is your,we can arrange, space, but space you should use, own understanding.

MV, understands, when she says, you not now KUWARI JODHA, NOW you have become JODHA BEGUM;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;i am happy with this.
Every mother will like this;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; parents knows jalal also has some problems, but they also know her own daughter loves him;;;;;;;;;;;so which is better they are doing that.


precap was interesting;;;;;;;;;so AKDHA IS in same ROOM😆 😆

Mansi, kassh we will watch to see chaucer game, ⭐️ ⭐️

i want to see jodha NAKHARA, which every women -BITRTH - RIGHT.😆 😆

but some worring if RUK will reach AMER, i will look after jalal.😡 😡

shah;;;;;;;;;;;azz no chipoko fying, ;;;;;;;;;;;





Edited by ayushimehra - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#92
I loved whatever u said Mansi.
I personally think that anger phase of Jodha is gone and whatever she is doing now is pretense, to be angry...she is trying her best not to care for Jalal, putting up an act that shows she is cold towards injured Jalal..but the fact remains same..pehle toh she thought she is having illusion..then after Bharmal's doses, she was convinced he is right there in Amer...if Jodha was so insensitive, she would have never gone to Mainavati checking on what medicines she is giving to Jalal, how the arrangements of serving him going on, and after Mainavati noticing her she would have never offered her to make lep on her ow and keeping chausar as he loves to play it..Mainavati knows her daughter the best! hence trying reverse psychology on her...and it already started working..I am sure if she goes like this, Jodha will blast her in favor of Jalal...😆she is a baby inside! she desparately wants to nurse him and I feel she was quite happy learning Jalal in Amer esp. in her kaksh...no more ego left.

lets wait for tonight...progression in her behavior is, earlier she used to cry and get angry at his very mention, now she is taking everything normally.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: flemingo

Very well written Mansi. Loved your take on Jodha.

A long pending reality check given by Bharmal was good yesterday. Hope it makes some difference.


I liked both Bharmal and mainavati's tactics. They palyed this game of Good Cop, Bad Cop, didn't they?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi - this is compilation of posts from Diksha about yesterday's episode - she is busy today so requested me to copy paste them from Ela's thread

loved Jo today... kya zootha nakhra dikhati hai... she wants something else and she is showing something else...tom Jo will be full nautanki till Jallu gets fully cured, and then just watch her more nakhras and Jallu manaofying him...

if she rushes to Jallu immediately, so later her nakhras will have no meaning... and she knows Jallu is in safe hands in Amer...let her do it... i enjoyed...

her love mixed with confusion and hurt has taken her to a false denial mode... at such times, ppl usually do what they r told not to or what they should not do... actually they want to do exactly opposite thing , but being unsure of what they really want, and what ppl will think if they actually do right things, make them behave wrongly or make them do unexpected things...

whenever Jallu is on the show, he is always a star...anyway, just think, if seeing him hurt, had she gone running to him, and cried, and nursed his wounds right there, what work would have left for Jallu , except looking at her seva, and feeling more guilty?

now when she will nurse him and still show some attitude, he will try manaofy her ,even tease her, or pretend to be more hurting... enjoy it dear...

Jo is not losing her human nature... this is called semi-denial mode in psychological terms... if the hurt is true extreme, that in one second we feel everything lost, and then next moment we get everything back, we go in this semi-denial mode... and it continues till we completely believe that it's not a dream and we will not be punished again... only then that person's life and mind work in right way...


Ooh I love this word "nakhras". That's is exactly it! Jodha wants one thing and is acting quite the opposite! Lovely word also "semi-denial" ... where do you get this vocabulary from Diksha!??? Wonderful!
And yes both are going to show attitude, he is going to woo her and tease her mercilessly and she is going to "put up her price" just to rile him, and then both are going to sink their differences and discover the fun of letting it all go and being one! What a good time we are going to have as long as he is in Amer! Hope the Agra crowd is out of sight and out of mind!
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Ok this is from Kshithi - her laptop is gone for repairs - she read posts from mobile

Superb posts by mansi, radhika, ayushi and all. And please tell Sun that her post was 'sarcasm at its best'. BTW Kshithi loved my post too! 😆

Thanks Kshithi ... and thanks Maddy for doing this posting on everybody's behalf!😆😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sreev12

Great analysis mansi!

waiting for chausar time ...


Yes, this Jodha is acting all tough, but is even thinking of his entertainment during recovery? What is this seesaw?😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Beautiful post and now beautiful remarks on my comments too. What can I say Sunny, this world is full of people who judge and condemn, not just for TV serials but in almost every aspect of life. That's why it is rare to find people with balance and proportion and moderation in everything and its so precious that we have a good group here of people with that strength. It take a lot more courage and far-sightedness to be impartial than partial. Any one can be judgemental but it takes some maturity to be unbiased. I love the group we have here with people of such maturity! I love the way everyone makes my mind open more and more every day!




^^^^
Superb Posts.

I would add my two cents here.
It is based on what understanding i have developed of JJ emotions by now.

It may appear i am venting😉but am not. I could not pick a better post by you and sun here.
So, choosing these 4 posts above to launch myself.

So, here i go..😆..>>>>>

Just based on 1 scene before her father in 1 single episode yesterday, i would NOT consider that she is heartless. Her heart beats as much for Jalal as his heart beats for Jodha.

Only Her mind is in a state of denial NOT her HEART and NOT her SOUL. If Denial has the power of creating the illusion of non-existence(in this case non-existence of Love.), then it also brings forth the pilfering breaths of one's soul (don't we all experience this.?. Is it so tough to decipher and feel it, that we all want a VERBAL and CLEAR demonstration of EACH and Everything ?. ). Jodha has experienced this and EVEN yesterday she experienced - Why she feels he is everywhere.?. Why she has a pre-monition if some evil befalls him .?. What is that strange connection which binds both of them.?. Does this show she is heartless?. Does this shows she is feelingless.?. Isn't there some Eternal connect.?.

You know what friends.. When someone means nothing to you, there is surely NOTHING at all. But, when even that person's activities / mood start affecting you it means a LOT. (Remember when Jalal announced to spend that night with Ruqs when he was angry with Jodha, what was her state that night.?.)

Yes, I can see the pain Jalal has. I can see What has Love made him. Yes, i can see Here we have the same Shehanshah who believed in winning by sheer brute of force, but what has happened to him NOW. Yes, i can see what happens when someone falls in LOVE. Yes, i know deep inside his heart cries. Yes, i know this WAS the same MAN who accepted everything BUT Mohabbat and Dil. Does the story ends here.?. No, it has started. Come to the other side of the coin.

Here, we have Jodha who accepted her LOVE for him before those 11 minutes of confrontation / accusation / conversation (whatever anyone calls it) shattered her that night. What do we do when so many people hurt us(even her own family for Jodha) and there is that one person whom we want to trust/open up but we can't.?. There is NO Sujamal fiasco in sight NOW. (So, don't make mountain of a mole hill by including it.) Presently, it's all about Trust for No Love happens without trust. Love and doubt have never been on speaking terms, and never will be. Our heart is a strange container, i tell you. Love and hatred can exist side by side in it, but NOT Love and Doubt. Love is weak when there is more doubt than there is trust, but love is most strong when you learn to trust even with all the doubts. She had given the PROOF and i say the MOST CONCRETE PROOF about her LOYALTY during that Vishpaan. But, wait, that was NOT Love as we say. Gratitude / Responsibility is not love. Don't mix the two because they are not the same. It is difficult to know at what moment love begins; BUT it is MORE difficult to ACCEPT that it has begun. This is all about Jodha's journey. She was the one who made Jalal know that he has a heart and she is the ONE who needs him the MOST at this crucial junction of her life. Just by what happened yesterday, ONE and ALL(i mean many) failed to notice her journey, and arrived on all sort of conclusions. I tried to be as Long sighted as possible and tried to sum up her feelings the moment she starting feeling for him, and i differ from anyone who feels Jodha is STILL away from Jalal or they BOTH are still 2 different entities. Her intellect may be confused(i mentioned her state of denial above), but her emotions HAVE never lied to her.

Sometimes we just feel everything and nothing all at once. Sometimes we'll find ourselves smiling while missing something at the same time. At times we can absolutely love a person, BUT all the while wanting😉 to hate him. Life and Feelings are So strange. She is in Love but not able to accept it. 😉 Rumi Sahab has written -> " Love comes to a person at own accord, and the yearning for it cannot be learned in any school. Your task is not to seek JUST love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. "

I won't make any strong conclusion just on basis on 1 single action. (which also can be interpreted positively ). I am sure we are going to get our answers SOON.
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Mansi, i liked yesterday episode.


so BRAKING news, is this, BM, CID works better, then AGRA, C I D, 😆 😆so all predictions, became false, &jalal reached, AMER.😆

AM, attacked, jalal again shows, &quest'd jalal security, ARMY deparment HOW much weak, so jalal should now aware of this.

Sikka, giving by jodha, saves jalal's life,where he fighting with AM, here jodha, was praying, GANGUAR, pooja, &praying, for jalal's safty.

(is this is not jodha's love, which person, doughted her character, not listening her words, &said harshely, leave this place;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;she is praying for him, &her sick sence is indicating, he is facing some problem, then she repairs, NECKLACE, preserves, blessengs of GAURI MAA, IS not shows love of jodha, or how much she worried for jalal, also shows.

HOW can we denay it ?

AM punished by jalal, & jalal clears,( because he taunted jalal, about jodha matter, ) now his aim is how he will acchieve love of jodha.

AM lost his one EYE;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; (EKTA copied it AAP AYYA BAHAR AYEE, where PREM CHOPRA lost his one eye) or its realty, then ABHAY maybee knows It.

jalal knows he is in AMER,

BM clears, how he reached AMER.

jalal, confusen starts here, HE knows, jodha is up-set with him. so GOD again give him, chance, to patch-up jodha. but jodhu has gone for GANGUAR POOGA,

jalal recalls, some decent movements, last year GANGUAR, so he goes to meet, jodha this critical condition.

when he recalls, refelection of his river water, then he decided to go, where is JODHA

(actually he wants jodha will again see his refelection, & when she will see, her angryness will be less, &she will be think again;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;their realtionship, which has been broken,
maybee, smooth.

( so if one realtion is breaking staze, or we want, that realtion, should not break, then we choose every little step, because we not know, which step will be worked;;;;;;;;;;;;;
that is jalal doing.)

if we say he was to injured, RIGHT, BUT as mind or heart level he was feeling more pain, so he decided to go to GANGUAR PLACE, because he will sit realax, in AMER, when he talked with jodha.

Jodha sees jalal reflection, MV says, this time please NO RAIN, NO STROAM, means MV also wants, things should be sorted out.

MV wants, now jodha should be think, jalal is my companion, i should accept now, leave past matters,
NEW way is coming, start new journey now. now no AGRA, she has time, so she should think about it.


MV observes, her daughter, is thinking about all time jalal.

SO when parents know, what is happening in their child's mind, then if that things or realtion poistive for them , then thy tried their best;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;so that thing,or that realtion if damaging, they wants to be sorted out.

MV also doing that. because if a realtion fully dead, no chance, then anothers method.

(this is not child igo, this is un-maturity, both sides, LESS OR MORE, can bee)


Jodha feels everywhere she is seeing jalal, so she confused, when she sees, jalal in her HOZARA.

first jodha not get time to console herself.

when a person feels deep pain, he or she not able, to see, what he or she wants, or what she or he should do now?
1; SHE not knows, jalal has realized, more, she was only thinking, he is saying sorry, if she will go him with AGRA,
again ome will happen, again this staze, again deep pain, then what she will do

2;;she not knows she has attacked.

when she suddenely sees, she first confused, but when jalal touched, then she some awares
but then suddenely thought comes;
Shahahnshah, has come to AMER, he will again say her for AGRA, so, why she would go to AGRA, when he own says me leave AGRA,
SO she says, she will not go to AGRA,then she watches he some injured.

3;;BM comes, because he knows, HIS daughter & son-in law, have some dis-putes, Disputes will not increase, so some talk needed to JODHA.

4;;He clears, Jalal situation, very meaning fully, also awares, jodha, he is your husband
we respect our guests, you love birds, why you some , tough type, your nature is not like this.

5;;jodha listening, & accepting, is not jodha's learning?

actually BM or MV not knows where AKDHA realtionship standing?
but they both knows, both love & care for eachother, but some TIME or TALKS needed both of them.

so they are creating space, &atmosphere, using reverse, method. they also want, they both should talk.

BM straight, & MV, teda method, so both will know how imp, they for eachother.

i liked yesterday BM, MV , how they tackling their daughter & son-in law, without touching their dignity.

This matter is your,we can arrange, space, but space you should use, own understanding.

MV, understands, when she says, you not now KUWARI JODHA, NOW you have become JODHA BEGUM;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;i am happy with this.
Every mother will like this;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; parents knows jalal also has some problems, but they also know her own daughter loves him;;;;;;;;;;;so which is better they are doing that.


precap was interesting;;;;;;;;;so AKDHA IS in same ROOM😆 😆

Mansi, kassh we will watch to see chaucer game, ⭐️ ⭐️

i want to see jodha NAKHARA, which every women -BITRTH - RIGHT.😆 😆

but some worring if RUK will reach AMER, i will look after jalal.😡 😡

shah;;;;;;;;;;;azz no chipoko fying, ;;;;;;;;;;;





Ayushi, as usual fantastic post full of every little detail! How do you manage to remember so much detail?
Arre, don't remind me of this Ruq yaar, hope she doesn't lamd up at Amer and spoil everything. And as for Shehnaaz, I hope the daasis will keep her so happy and entertained that she will have no time for becoming Fevicol on Jodha!
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Minni - I hope you do not form an opinion about Jodha based on one reaction.
Please read posts here by Sun, Mansi's wonderful replies to Sun, my other post here giving Jodha's POV currently.

Hope they will make you feel differently. 😃

If Jalal can win us over after the 11 mins rage how can Jodha not win us over?! Just you wait and watch!

Maddy... my dear.
How I wished that one day you will quote me and you did.
I have read ALL about Jo's POVs, including the ones who are not a big fan of her character..😉
I generally go by hunch and I am a hard nut to crack. The POVs do not sway me much.
And even though I am a part of Jo's Bhajan Mandali😆😉, I am also a part of Jalal's BHajan Mandli, where I venture less often coz the discussions always turn to Jo bashing, so unless all is well and both JO Ja are on same side serial wise, I refrain from venturing unless I am in mood of debating.
About Jalal, he had already won me over with various acts:
1. single minute smart decision making during Jo's non-conversion to a muslim, before their marriage.
2. rescuing Abdul HIMSELF...
3. Investigating Tasneem case HIMSELF
4. fighting the tiger😳
5. flirting with Jo.
6. Making a scene and then saving the scene gracefully while gifting the fort to Sukanya's in-laws.
He didn't have to, but he did!
7. Dreaming of his wife like a husband😉... I cannot appreciate a man who cannot think of the woman in his life like a man would:-)
8. His instant character recognition of Maan Singh...
9. His handling of the religious issue...
10. His thirst for power, land and all that is good on earth😉😛
He has mostly stoood by his intrinsic values. He is justice loving, short tempered, egoistic, biased, a family man, loyal, has an eye for talent and is generally shown to display more mood variations than any character. He has never been shown to be forthcoming. He generally uses teda communication ways.
Jo on the other hand is all crystal clear... when she says she hates, she hates, when she says she loves, she loves...
And I always understood her pains because they stood out raw and in the open. Today also, I would. But that but remains to be seen if today she does some amount od self talks about her concern that Abul Mali is alive and kicking somewhere still!
I have not forgiven Jalal for letting Jo sleep outside his tent during the Salim chishti track while he and ruq slept in the tent. that was total lack of chivalry and it was total indifference. he SHOULD HAVE insisted he will sleep outside and request Ruq to do the same!
And I will never forgive Jo for not showing any reaction upon hearing that her husband was so wounded and that Abul Mali was the attacker. As I said earlier, some reaction was expected. It is not inherently Jo's nature to ignore and be immune to such stuff!
Oh and BTW, I hate the fact that Jalal lets his enemies off the hook with a single eye poke... how silly of a king to do that. But alas, 'Kash woh apni behen ki itni fikr na karte...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: tamy267

I loved whatever u said Mansi.

I personally think that anger phase of Jodha is gone and whatever she is doing now is pretense, to be angry...she is trying her best not to care for Jalal, putting up an act that shows she is cold towards injured Jalal..but the fact remains same..pehle toh she thought she is having illusion..then after Bharmal's doses, she was convinced he is right there in Amer...if Jodha was so insensitive, she would have never gone to Mainavati checking on what medicines she is giving to Jalal, how the arrangements of serving him going on, and after Mainavati noticing her she would have never offered her to make lep on her ow and keeping chausar as he loves to play it..Mainavati knows her daughter the best! hence trying reverse psychology on her...and it already started working..I am sure if she goes like this, Jodha will blast her in favor of Jalal...😆she is a baby inside! she desparately wants to nurse him and I feel she was quite happy learning Jalal in Amer esp. in her kaksh...no more ego left.

lets wait for tonight...progression in her behavior is, earlier she used to cry and get angry at his very mention, now she is taking everything normally.

Yes, this Mainavati has sized up Jodha very well. She too knows that Jodha actually loves Jalal but is now acting differently just to keep up this pretence. Ek hi kaksh mein!!!!👏👏👏 ... wow, I am just waiting for today's episode!

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