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Posted: 11 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: mdeshpande

Yet another lovely post Mansi, full of positivism. How do you do it??

Thankfully Jalal's in Amer, with such sensible and able In-laws to help him !!
Like every 1 else , am too disappointed with Jo not showing her reaction. There are somethings that you always expect from these characters, almost take for granted their reaction which we r used to,but when the opposite happens, it shocks us. The mind understands but the heart doesn't !!
Looking forward to the 'manao-fying" days ahead !!

Yes, I think we are over the worst and there are good times ahead!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi one more thing -

I would have loved to see this

Instead of Jalal just saying he has to meet Jodha NOW and totter to water front, - even if he said that to Bharmal - I would have liked if they had shown self talk of Jalal. Jalal can talk with Jodha after she gets back right?!

Jalal knows the significance of seeing the person's image after floating of diya. Jalal had stood deliberately in such position last time so Jodha can see HIM in water as she floated the diya.

This time also if they had given Jalal self talk that I have to go there, I must make sure Jodha sees me when she floats her diya - I also need to see both of us together in water image as she floats the diya so she knows I am still her future and I also need to see this - would have been better.

Jodha did not know how injured Jalal is - when she saw him covered in the same shawl as she was in water image - it is clear he was there - she sees him standing by her side mostly covered in the shawl talking with her - HOW would she realize how injured he is?

After Bharmal told Jodha - Jalal was attacked by Abul Mali - she has seen him safe and not seen the extent of his injuries - it is ok if she did not appear absolutely worried - but she could have shown anger at Abul Mali - or she could have been given self talk - Shehenshah never listens to me - Thanks to Kanha nothing happened to him but see how careless he is?! Would have made her look better.

I agree it would have looked foolish to see her run to him and cry and hug etc.

Jodha is going to be TOTALLY ON GUARD NOW - not just against Jalal but also AGAINST HER PARENTS.

If she shows to them she is melting - she KNOWS they will start telling her to forgive him instantly and go back with him to Agra.

Bharmal and Mainavati do not YET KNOW WHAT ALL JALAL SAID TO HER - he explained but must have been from his POV, they do not know how broken she was at his words - ONLY JALAL KNOWS how much he hurt her.

So Jodha will have to be on guard and it will be full on war between her heart and her hurt and her mind and her forgiving nature.

Jalal will get full chance at wooing her and HE HAS TO DO LOT OF THAT.

JALAL PLEASE DO NOT GET WELL SOOON 😆
TAKE A LONG TIME - YOU NEED LOADS OF RECOVERY TIME AND TLC.

Mansi I wrote in reply to Radhika - speaking on your behalf but if they can give us 22 episodes in Amer - I am sure you will be ready to go and break 11 more coconuts to Ganapati 😆



Maddy, I guess they wanted desperately to show Jalal ka reflection in the water so they made him "totter" to the waterfront, even if, as you say, some self-talks will be better.
Accha, regarding the coconuts I think I will hereafter buy in wholesale!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks Abhay!😛😛😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sun29

It was a beautiful Sunday morning,Jalal was walking around aimlessly...he wanted to spend it with his khaas people but ruqaiyya was busy solving a tiff involving nadira beghum and the cook...badi ammi was busy digging a new tunnel from his room to some cave in jungle,she told him she had taken a mannat for his safety and hence the tunnel..he was so moved and touched...even now he had tears in his eyes thinking how much badi ammi loved him...awww ,even atgah saab was busy has he had decided to take his wife for a picnic and salima beghum was busy with rahim...so he was wondering what to do that he suddenly saw jodha..and then it hit him..but ofcourse..since it is a Sunday and i am free why not take this time and fall in love with Jodha...ohh yes what an absolute utilization of my time,he thinks...

and thus the love story began...he fell in love coz he wanted to and he still loves her coz this is what he wants to do in free time and ofcourse jodha has no contribution in his falling for her...coz how can any sane man fall for such inhuman,selfish,arrogant ,insensitive girl like jodha


Mansi yaar how can anyone defend Jodha..did you see the way she was standing yesterday..on her two legs with hands on her side and a head on her shoulders...it clearly shows she absolutely does not have any feelings for Jalal but did you see how he was standing ,it only spoke of love..goshh heartless girl!!!...also the tears earlier she shed..compare it with Jalal's tears or for that matter MA ka or ruqaiyya ka tear...you will see hers does not even fall off her cheek whereas when others cry it soaks their dupatta and jama...true love is what the other two feel for him...if you do not believe me see the next time she cries...

ofcourse Jalal unleashed at Jo ,had every right to be mad at her and then when he realized his mistake he repented wanting to apologize...but Jodha how dare she takes so much time for realizing...how dare she gets hurt,she committed a grave mistake hence no right at all to get hurt..how dare she walks out after being told to and how dare she does not fall on his feet the moment he apologized...how dare she makes this mighty Emperor into a lover boy and how dare she does not every second of the day prove to us her superficial love...chiii

and her parents ..gosh what amazing in laws does Jalal have...they can see through his pain ,his hurt ,his love ..wow

and thier own daughter ..what is the need to ask her even once what happened to her ,why is she so hurt ,...what is the need to offer her a shoulder to cry out her heart ...but where does she have a heart or emotions na that her own parents can see things beyond the so called ego as termed

and i hate Jalal for still loving this woman,i hate him even more coz he is the only one who understands her at present and i detest him for trying to pacify her ,and i loathe him for crying in her separation ,wanting to meet her and hook or crook wanting to win back her love...chiii does this woman deserve it ???chiii

if he is half the man we saw in the initial episode..he will walk out and away from the one woman who stood against the world and even him to save his life,who gave her life for him ,who found his heart for her ,who made him fall in love,who made him understand love and who made him realize he is not alone ,a girl who hated him but was the most loyal to him ,who respected every relation dear to him and stood by those too...yes he should walk out and why you ask??? because she dared walk out on him and inspite of his apology refuses to relent...enough for him to dump her and walk away i say...

and who cares if he cannot survive without her ,cannot ever not love her ,will suffer throughout..but since she is not PERFECT.. she does not deserve his love coz he is PERFECTION...

i tell you mansi...if you do not believe me...remove their hearts and measure on that tarazuu..you ill see that Jodha's shallow heart will not move the balance an inch but Jalal's will be so weighed by his love that it will pierce the ground and go beyond

and i can keep on stating reason after reason ,but hope you get the gist...there is nothing to sympathize with her or feel for her...she errs ,she is flawed..enough to be unworthy of any love or feelings...

PS: not a feminist but a humanist...if i could never ignore Jalal's pain ,hurt inspite of his flaws and mistakes...i cannot measure jodha with a different yardstick just because she does not scream,shout or voice her pain ,hurt or heartbreak and makes mistakes

a relationship is between two very different and flawed people who spend their life trying to achieve perfection and understanding

age and experience makes one wise...both of them are naive and young and entitled to their own flaws and mistakes...but we are not flawless enough to crucify or judge them ...

see her as a human not by your standards but just as a human






Sun 👏

Amazing post.
Your sarcastic post says it all.

I love Jodha and Jalal BOTH - what is MORE TRPs LOVE JODHA AND JALAL BOTH - TRPs have given answer 👏





Edited by MaddyO - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: sun29

It was a beautiful Sunday morning,Jalal was walking around aimlessly...he wanted to spend it with his khaas people but ruqaiyya was busy solving a tiff involving nadira beghum and the cook...badi ammi was busy digging a new tunnel from his room to some cave in jungle,she told him she had taken a mannat for his safety and hence the tunnel..he was so moved and touched...even now he had tears in his eyes thinking how much badi ammi loved him...awww ,even atgah saab was busy has he had decided to take his wife for a picnic and salima beghum was busy with rahim...so he was wondering what to do that he suddenly saw jodha..and then it hit him..but ofcourse..since it is a Sunday and i am free why not take this time and fall in love with Jodha...ohh yes what an absolute utilization of my time,he thinks...

and thus the love story began...he fell in love coz he wanted to and he still loves her coz this is what he wants to do in free time and ofcourse jodha has no contribution in his falling for her...coz how can any sane man fall for such inhuman,selfish,arrogant ,insensitive girl like jodha


Mansi yaar how can anyone defend Jodha..did you see the way she was standing yesterday..on her two legs with hands on her side and a head on her shoulders...it clearly shows she absolutely does not have any feelings for Jalal but did you see how he was standing ,it only spoke of love..goshh heartless girl!!!...also the tears earlier she shed..compare it with Jalal's tears or for that matter MA ka or ruqaiyya ka tear...you will see hers does not even fall off her cheek whereas when others cry it soaks their dupatta and jama...true love is what the other two feel for him...if you do not believe me see the next time she cries...

ofcourse Jalal unleashed at Jo ,had every right to be mad at her and then when he realized his mistake he repented wanting to apologize...but Jodha how dare she takes so much time for realizing...how dare she gets hurt,she committed a grave mistake hence no right at all to get hurt..how dare she walks out after being told to and how dare she does not fall on his feet the moment he apologized...how dare she makes this mighty Emperor into a lover boy and how dare she does not every second of the day prove to us her superficial love...chiii

and her parents ..gosh what amazing in laws does Jalal have...they can see through his pain ,his hurt ,his love ..wow

and thier own daughter ..what is the need to ask her even once what happened to her ,why is she so hurt ,...what is the need to offer her a shoulder to cry out her heart ...but where does she have a heart or emotions na that her own parents can see things beyond the so called ego as termed

and i hate Jalal for still loving this woman,i hate him even more coz he is the only one who understands her at present and i detest him for trying to pacify her ,and i loathe him for crying in her separation ,wanting to meet her and hook or crook wanting to win back her love...chiii does this woman deserve it ???chiii

if he is half the man we saw in the initial episode..he will walk out and away from the one woman who stood against the world and even him to save his life,who gave her life for him ,who found his heart for her ,who made him fall in love,who made him understand love and who made him realize he is not alone ,a girl who hated him but was the most loyal to him ,who respected every relation dear to him and stood by those too...yes he should walk out and why you ask??? because she dared walk out on him and inspite of his apology refuses to relent...enough for him to dump her and walk away i say...

and who cares if he cannot survive without her ,cannot ever not love her ,will suffer throughout..but since she is not PERFECT.. she does not deserve his love coz he is PERFECTION...

i tell you mansi...if you do not believe me...remove their hearts and measure on that tarazuu..you ill see that Jodha's shallow heart will not move the balance an inch but Jalal's will be so weighed by his love that it will pierce the ground and go beyond

and i can keep on stating reason after reason ,but hope you get the gist...there is nothing to sympathize with her or feel for her...she errs ,she is flawed..enough to be unworthy of any love or feelings...

PS: not a feminist but a humanist...if i could never ignore Jalal's pain ,hurt inspite of his flaws and mistakes...i cannot measure jodha with a different yardstick just because she does not scream,shout or voice her pain ,hurt or heartbreak and makes mistakes

a relationship is between two very different and flawed people who spend their life trying to achieve perfection and understanding

age and experience makes one wise...both of them are naive and young and entitled to their own flaws and mistakes...but we are not flawless enough to crucify or judge them ...

see her as a human not by your standards but just as a human




Sunny, I can see that you are moved to write so much. As for my own sentiments, as you know, I cannot ever seem to level with even ofne of those "negative sentiments" you have written so well about. That is because I don't consider anyone wrong or evil or ill or insensitive unless they intentionally do it. As long as an act is not intentional I hope I will always have the magnanimity to let it pass! people cannot be faulted for their natural reactions unless these are intentionally bad. As long as intention is not negative, all acts are a part of human emotional state, and Jalal and Jodha are equally flawed or equally unflawed depending on which way you look.
The acts that should be condemned are the acts of ill-intention, isn't it?.
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gem12

beautiful take Mansi...Just one doubt...y jalal was scared and nervous in the precap...he was the one always goes close to jo and makes her nervous and scares her...par aaj kya hogaya jalal ko...itna nervous kyun hai

He is not looking scared to me. If anything I think he looked surprised!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: sun29


It was a beautiful Sunday morning,Jalal was walking around aimlessly...he wanted to spend it with his khaas people but ruqaiyya was busy solving a tiff involving nadira beghum and the cook...badi ammi was busy digging a new tunnel from his room to some cave in jungle,she told him she had taken a mannat for his safety and hence the tunnel..he was so moved and touched...even now he had tears in his eyes thinking how much badi ammi loved him...awww ,even atgah saab was busy has he had decided to take his wife for a picnic and salima beghum was busy with rahim...so he was wondering what to do that he suddenly saw jodha..and then it hit him..but ofcourse..since it is a Sunday and i am free why not take this time and fall in love with Jodha...ohh yes what an absolute utilization of my time,he thinks...

and thus the love story began...he fell in love coz he wanted to and he still loves her coz this is what he wants to do in free time and ofcourse jodha has no contribution in his falling for her...coz how can any sane man fall for such inhuman,selfish,arrogant ,insensitive girl like jodha


Mansi yaar how can anyone defend Jodha..did you see the way she was standing yesterday..on her two legs with hands on her side and a head on her shoulders...it clearly shows she absolutely does not have any feelings for Jalal but did you see how he was standing ,it only spoke of love..goshh heartless girl!!!...also the tears earlier she shed..compare it with Jalal's tears or for that matter MA ka or ruqaiyya ka tear...you will see hers does not even fall off her cheek whereas when others cry it soaks their dupatta and jama...true love is what the other two feel for him...if you do not believe me see the next time she cries...

ofcourse Jalal unleashed at Jo ,had every right to be mad at her and then when he realized his mistake he repented wanting to apologize...but Jodha how dare she takes so much time for realizing...how dare she gets hurt,she committed a grave mistake hence no right at all to get hurt..how dare she walks out after being told to and how dare she does not fall on his feet the moment he apologized...how dare she makes this mighty Emperor into a lover boy and how dare she does not every second of the day prove to us her superficial love...chiii

and her parents ..gosh what amazing in laws does Jalal have...they can see through his pain ,his hurt ,his love ..wow

and thier own daughter ..what is the need to ask her even once what happened to her ,why is she so hurt ,...what is the need to offer her a shoulder to cry out her heart ...but where does she have a heart or emotions na that her own parents can see things beyond the so called ego as termed

and i hate Jalal for still loving this woman,i hate him even more coz he is the only one who understands her at present and i detest him for trying to pacify her ,and i loathe him for crying in her separation ,wanting to meet her and hook or crook wanting to win back her love...chiii does this woman deserve it ???chiii

if he is half the man we saw in the initial episode..he will walk out and away from the one woman who stood against the world and even him to save his life,who gave her life for him ,who found his heart for her ,who made him fall in love,who made him understand love and who made him realize he is not alone ,a girl who hated him but was the most loyal to him ,who respected every relation dear to him and stood by those too...yes he should walk out and why you ask??? because she dared walk out on him and inspite of his apology refuses to relent...enough for him to dump her and walk away i say...

and who cares if he cannot survive without her ,cannot ever not love her ,will suffer throughout..but since she is not PERFECT.. she does not deserve his love coz he is PERFECTION...

i tell you mansi...if you do not believe me...remove their hearts and measure on that tarazuu..you ill see that Jodha's shallow heart will not move the balance an inch but Jalal's will be so weighed by his love that it will pierce the ground and go beyond

and i can keep on stating reason after reason ,but hope you get the gist...there is nothing to sympathize with her or feel for her...she errs ,she is flawed..enough to be unworthy of any love or feelings...

PS: not a feminist but a humanist...if i could never ignore Jalal's pain ,hurt inspite of his flaws and mistakes...i cannot measure jodha with a different yardstick just because she does not scream,shout or voice her pain ,hurt or heartbreak and makes mistakes

a relationship is between two very different and flawed people who spend their life trying to achieve perfection and understanding

age and experience makes one wise...both of them are naive and young and entitled to their own flaws and mistakes...but we are not flawless enough to crucify or judge them ...

see her as a human not by your standards but just as a human







sun 👏 I am telling u agn I love you
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sun29


It was a beautiful Sunday morning,Jalal was walking around aimlessly...he wanted to spend it with his khaas people but ruqaiyya was busy solving a tiff involving nadira beghum and the cook...badi ammi was busy digging a new tunnel from his room to some cave in jungle,she told him she had taken a mannat for his safety and hence the tunnel..he was so moved and touched...even now he had tears in his eyes thinking how much badi ammi loved him...awww ,even atgah saab was busy has he had decided to take his wife for a picnic and salima beghum was busy with rahim...so he was wondering what to do that he suddenly saw jodha..and then it hit him..but ofcourse..since it is a Sunday and i am free why not take this time and fall in love with Jodha...ohh yes what an absolute utilization of my time,he thinks...

and thus the love story began...he fell in love coz he wanted to and he still loves her coz this is what he wants to do in free time and ofcourse jodha has no contribution in his falling for her...coz how can any sane man fall for such inhuman,selfish,arrogant ,insensitive girl like jodha


Mansi yaar how can anyone defend Jodha..did you see the way she was standing yesterday..on her two legs with hands on her side and a head on her shoulders...it clearly shows she absolutely does not have any feelings for Jalal but did you see how he was standing ,it only spoke of love..goshh heartless girl!!!...also the tears earlier she shed..compare it with Jalal's tears or for that matter MA ka or ruqaiyya ka tear...you will see hers does not even fall off her cheek whereas when others cry it soaks their dupatta and jama...true love is what the other two feel for him...if you do not believe me see the next time she cries...

ofcourse Jalal unleashed at Jo ,had every right to be mad at her and then when he realized his mistake he repented wanting to apologize...but Jodha how dare she takes so much time for realizing...how dare she gets hurt,she committed a grave mistake hence no right at all to get hurt..how dare she walks out after being told to and how dare she does not fall on his feet the moment he apologized...how dare she makes this mighty Emperor into a lover boy and how dare she does not every second of the day prove to us her superficial love...chiii

and her parents ..gosh what amazing in laws does Jalal have...they can see through his pain ,his hurt ,his love ..wow

and thier own daughter ..what is the need to ask her even once what happened to her ,why is she so hurt ,...what is the need to offer her a shoulder to cry out her heart ...but where does she have a heart or emotions na that her own parents can see things beyond the so called ego as termed

and i hate Jalal for still loving this woman,i hate him even more coz he is the only one who understands her at present and i detest him for trying to pacify her ,and i loathe him for crying in her separation ,wanting to meet her and hook or crook wanting to win back her love...chiii does this woman deserve it ???chiii

if he is half the man we saw in the initial episode..he will walk out and away from the one woman who stood against the world and even him to save his life,who gave her life for him ,who found his heart for her ,who made him fall in love,who made him understand love and who made him realize he is not alone ,a girl who hated him but was the most loyal to him ,who respected every relation dear to him and stood by those too...yes he should walk out and why you ask??? because she dared walk out on him and inspite of his apology refuses to relent...enough for him to dump her and walk away i say...

and who cares if he cannot survive without her ,cannot ever not love her ,will suffer throughout..but since she is not PERFECT.. she does not deserve his love coz he is PERFECTION...

i tell you mansi...if you do not believe me...remove their hearts and measure on that tarazuu..you ill see that Jodha's shallow heart will not move the balance an inch but Jalal's will be so weighed by his love that it will pierce the ground and go beyond

and i can keep on stating reason after reason ,but hope you get the gist...there is nothing to sympathize with her or feel for her...she errs ,she is flawed..enough to be unworthy of any love or feelings...

PS: not a feminist but a humanist...if i could never ignore Jalal's pain ,hurt inspite of his flaws and mistakes...i cannot measure jodha with a different yardstick just because she does not scream,shout or voice her pain ,hurt or heartbreak and makes mistakes

a relationship is between two very different and flawed people who spend their life trying to achieve perfection and understanding

age and experience makes one wise...both of them are naive and young and entitled to their own flaws and mistakes...but we are not flawless enough to crucify or judge them ...

see her as a human not by your standards but just as a human







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🤗 for this wonderful comment
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Sunny, I can see that you are moved to write so much. As for my own sentiments, as you know, I cannot ever seem to level with even ofne of those "negative sentiments" you have written so well about. That is because I don't consider anyone wrong or evil or ill or insensitive unless they intentionally do it. As long as an act is not intentional I hope I will always have the magnanimity to let it pass! people cannot be faulted for their natural reactions unless these are intentionally bad. As long as intention is not negative, all acts are a part of human emotional state, and Jalal and Jodha are equally flawed or equally unflawed depending on which way you look.
The acts that should be condemned are the acts of ill-intention, isn't it?.


and mansi i admire you for that...not bowing down to the pressure of choosing a side and still balancing them even when things become difficult...

this is what a few of us have been stating from day one...do not condemn then ,do not judge them..they are learning and yes as long as it is not ill intentional have the heart to forgive and even if ill intentional have the heart to move on and not get stuck in the rut ..which brings me back to the dhakka issue and for jalal to move from it the letter has to be read...yes right now that is not in his thought but the next time he gets angry it will come back to haunt him unless cleared...

jodha is going to lash out ,be cold ,be rude and not because she is insensitive but coz she is too sensitive and will not at any cost let Jalal see or know that...he practically threw her out of his home and life without a second thought ,he ridiculed her deeds and cheapened her character...if he had simply slapped her she would have long back forgotten that but words stay ..they do not heal with lep but with time and love...both her and jalal have already moved on from sujamal but are stuck in that 11 minutes that night...and for her to apologize she has to move forward from that pain and only Jalal can help her...he has to have patience not ego ...coz she is as you put it shielded in her empty shell of ego...she will hold onto anything coz she is scared to trust again ,scared to believe again ...she is vulnerable and sadly not even her own understand her ...if they can see her ahankaar why cannot they see her dard and chubna ...

i love both ja and Jo ...and i can never chose one over another ...i do not expect them to hold true to any expectation instead i am excited to watch this journey with all its road blocks ,pain ,hurt ,love ,joy and blessings ...

thank you so much for such a wonderful post...and thank you for letting me burst out 😆 ..i am tired of all the belittling of one to elevate the other...who are we to decide who deserves whose love...
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