Jalal is in Amer - but things are a bit over the top! - Page 9

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Posted: 11 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Sun 👏

Amazing post.
Your post says it all.

I love Jodha and Jalal BOTH - what is MORE TRPs LOVE JODHA AND JALAL BOTH - TRPs have given answer 👏






thanks Medha and i am in the same boat as you...for me this is jodha and jalal ka love story not jo ka love story or ja ka love story...inspite of all their flaws and mistakes i want to see them together coz they want to be together ...they are so emotionally connected that it is impossible to separate one from the another...and yes just read about the trps..am so happy that inspite of IPL we had a rise in numbers

i just hope the cvs up their game and quality and give a better track after this
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Posted: 11 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: sun29


and mansi i admire you for that...not bowing down to the pressure of choosing a side and still balancing them even when things become difficult...

this is what a few of us have been stating from day one...do not condemn then ,do not judge them..they are learning and yes as long as it is not ill intentional have the heart to forgive and even if ill intentional have the heart to move on and not get stuck in the rut ..which brings me back to the dhakka issue and for jalal to move from it the letter has to be read...yes right now that is not in his thought but the next time he gets angry it will come back to haunt him unless cleared...

jodha is going to lash out ,be cold ,be rude and not because she is insensitive but coz she is too sensitive and will not at any cost let Jalal see or know that...he practically threw her out of his home and life without a second thought ,he ridiculed her deeds and cheapened her character...if he had simply slapped her she would have long back forgotten that but words stay ..they do not heal with lep but with time and love...both her and jalal have already moved on from sujamal but are stuck in that 11 minutes that night...and for her to apologize she has to move forward from that pain and only Jalal can help her...he has to have patience not ego ...coz she is as you put it shielded in her empty shell of ego...she will hold onto anything coz she is scared to trust again ,scared to believe again ...she is vulnerable and sadly not even her own understand her ...if they can see her ahankaar why cannot they see her dard and chubna ...

i love both ja and Jo ...and i can never chose one over another ...i do not expect them to hold true to any expectation instead i am excited to watch this journey with all its road blocks ,pain ,hurt ,love ,joy and blessings ...

thank you so much for such a wonderful post...and thank you for letting me burst out 😆 ..i am tired of all the belittling of one to elevate the other...who are we to decide who deserves whose love...

Beautiful post and now beautiful remarks on my comments too. What can I say Sunny, this world is full of people who judge and condemn, not just for TV serials but in almost every aspect of life. That's why it is rare to find people with balance and proportion and moderation in everything and its so precious that we have a good group here of people with that strength. It take a lot more courage and far-sightedness to be impartial than partial. Any one can be judgemental but it takes some maturity to be unbiased. I love the group we have here with people of such maturity! I love the way everyone makes my mind open more and more every day!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#83
Very well written Mansi. Loved your take on Jodha.

A long pending reality check given by Bharmal was good yesterday. Hope it makes some difference.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi - this is compilation of posts from Diksha about yesterday's episode - she is busy today so requested me to copy paste them from Ela's thread

loved Jo today... kya zootha nakhra dikhati hai... she wants something else and she is showing something else...tom Jo will be full nautanki till Jallu gets fully cured, and then just watch her more nakhras and Jallu manaofying him...

if she rushes to Jallu immediately, so later her nakhras will have no meaning... and she knows Jallu is in safe hands in Amer...let her do it... i enjoyed...

her love mixed with confusion and hurt has taken her to a false denial mode... at such times, ppl usually do what they r told not to or what they should not do... actually they want to do exactly opposite thing , but being unsure of what they really want, and what ppl will think if they actually do right things, make them behave wrongly or make them do unexpected things...

whenever Jallu is on the show, he is always a star...anyway, just think, if seeing him hurt, had she gone running to him, and cried, and nursed his wounds right there, what work would have left for Jallu , except looking at her seva, and feeling more guilty?

now when she will nurse him and still show some attitude, he will try manaofy her ,even tease her, or pretend to be more hurting... enjoy it dear...

Jo is not losing her human nature... this is called semi-denial mode in psychological terms... if the hurt is true extreme, that in one second we feel everything lost, and then next moment we get everything back, we go in this semi-denial mode... and it continues till we completely believe that it's not a dream and we will not be punished again... only then that person's life and mind work in right way...


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ok this is from Kshithi - her laptop is gone for repairs - she read posts from mobile

Superb posts by mansi, radhika, ayushi and all. And please tell Sun that her post was 'sarcasm at its best'. BTW Kshithi loved my post too! 😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: skanda12

Arre, I broke not one but eleven coconuts! Yes Jodha looked insensitive but at least we can be sure she is trying to be deliberately mean. She herself is very confused, seeing brahms and not knowing what to believe.

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cv's :sometym express train sometymes tortoise...(11 coconut that's great) leaving us all 😕
jodha:sometymes extremely caring ,sometymes extremely insensitive(she is indeed confused btw brham n reality)leaving us all 😕
jalal: sometymes extremely naughtly ,sometymes extremely sanskari(precap)leaving us all 😕

ps: u r write she is doing so deiberately but she could atleast giv us a hint that she is doing so deliberatly (by just doing some self talks as pointed correctly by someone here.)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great analysis mansi!

waiting for chausar time ...


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: minnie2308

I so agree with your whole post. No one was expecting Jo to jump onto Jalal with hugs and kisses or even be remotely civil.
But her shock/reaction at mention of Abul Mali's name was a very natural expectation. It has hugely disappointed me. And this is the first time I am disappointed with Jo. Now nothing she does will win me over completely!😭



Minni - I hope you do not form an opinion about Jodha based on one reaction.
Please read posts here by Sun, Mansi's wonderful replies to Sun, my other post here giving Jodha's POV currently.

Hope they will make you feel differently. 😃

If Jalal can win us over after the 11 mins rage how can Jodha not win us over?! Just you wait and watch!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sun29

It was a beautiful Sunday morning,Jalal was walking around aimlessly...he wanted to spend it with his khaas people but ruqaiyya was busy solving a tiff involving nadira beghum and the cook...badi ammi was busy digging a new tunnel from his room to some cave in jungle,she told him she had taken a mannat for his safety and hence the tunnel..he was so moved and touched...even now he had tears in his eyes thinking how much badi ammi loved him...awww ,even atgah saab was busy has he had decided to take his wife for a picnic and salima beghum was busy with rahim...so he was wondering what to do that he suddenly saw jodha..and then it hit him..but ofcourse..since it is a Sunday and i am free why not take this time and fall in love with Jodha...ohh yes what an absolute utilization of my time,he thinks...

and thus the love story began...he fell in love coz he wanted to and he still loves her coz this is what he wants to do in free time and ofcourse jodha has no contribution in his falling for her...coz how can any sane man fall for such inhuman,selfish,arrogant ,insensitive girl like jodha


Mansi yaar how can anyone defend Jodha..did you see the way she was standing yesterday..on her two legs with hands on her side and a head on her shoulders...it clearly shows she absolutely does not have any feelings for Jalal but did you see how he was standing ,it only spoke of love..goshh heartless girl!!!...also the tears earlier she shed..compare it with Jalal's tears or for that matter MA ka or ruqaiyya ka tear...you will see hers does not even fall off her cheek whereas when others cry it soaks their dupatta and jama...true love is what the other two feel for him...if you do not believe me see the next time she cries...

ofcourse Jalal unleashed at Jo ,had every right to be mad at her and then when he realized his mistake he repented wanting to apologize...but Jodha how dare she takes so much time for realizing...how dare she gets hurt,she committed a grave mistake hence no right at all to get hurt..how dare she walks out after being told to and how dare she does not fall on his feet the moment he apologized...how dare she makes this mighty Emperor into a lover boy and how dare she does not every second of the day prove to us her superficial love...chiii

and her parents ..gosh what amazing in laws does Jalal have...they can see through his pain ,his hurt ,his love ..wow

and thier own daughter ..what is the need to ask her even once what happened to her ,why is she so hurt ,...what is the need to offer her a shoulder to cry out her heart ...but where does she have a heart or emotions na that her own parents can see things beyond the so called ego as termed

and i hate Jalal for still loving this woman,i hate him even more coz he is the only one who understands her at present and i detest him for trying to pacify her ,and i loathe him for crying in her separation ,wanting to meet her and hook or crook wanting to win back her love...chiii does this woman deserve it ???chiii

if he is half the man we saw in the initial episode..he will walk out and away from the one woman who stood against the world and even him to save his life,who gave her life for him ,who found his heart for her ,who made him fall in love,who made him understand love and who made him realize he is not alone ,a girl who hated him but was the most loyal to him ,who respected every relation dear to him and stood by those too...yes he should walk out and why you ask??? because she dared walk out on him and inspite of his apology refuses to relent...enough for him to dump her and walk away i say...

and who cares if he cannot survive without her ,cannot ever not love her ,will suffer throughout..but since she is not PERFECT.. she does not deserve his love coz he is PERFECTION...

i tell you mansi...if you do not believe me...remove their hearts and measure on that tarazuu..you ill see that Jodha's shallow heart will not move the balance an inch but Jalal's will be so weighed by his love that it will pierce the ground and go beyond

and i can keep on stating reason after reason ,but hope you get the gist...there is nothing to sympathize with her or feel for her...she errs ,she is flawed..enough to be unworthy of any love or feelings...

PS: not a feminist but a humanist...if i could never ignore Jalal's pain ,hurt inspite of his flaws and mistakes...i cannot measure jodha with a different yardstick just because she does not scream,shout or voice her pain ,hurt or heartbreak and makes mistakes

a relationship is between two very different and flawed people who spend their life trying to achieve perfection and understanding

age and experience makes one wise...both of them are naive and young and entitled to their own flaws and mistakes...but we are not flawless enough to crucify or judge them ...

see her as a human not by your standards but just as a human




whoa!!! I am speechless!!

Sunny u rock!👏👏⭐️

nothing can be best than this!👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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outstanding analysis
i so loved your analysis
loved the jalal parts

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