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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: prettypri

Absolutely brilliant👏

Agree word for word!

And yes...be careful what you pray for holds relevance here because the entire premise in which Paro based her belief and wanted to marry Rudra was divine ordinance...from a man she felt grateful to for saving her life he became the one she wanted to spend her life with only because she concluded it was gods wish.

If she held the fake marriage plans against him and considered him an abuser et al why would she tell Singh that she now considered Rudra her saviour and had been wrong out think otherwise!

In fact Aman was the one who helped smuggle Paro into the house after Rudra explicitly disallowed it!

I don't get why such obvious facts would be misunderstood by the BSD!

Only reason is the damaging nature of those pictures...and that public proposal...both of which Paro did voluntarily in her quest to convince him!

So I for one do not get the sympathy or empathy factor for Paro in all this...her dreams getting shattered etc...she did want to get married...publicly asking him to do so...and she has been portrayed as a woman no woman would ever be like...super human in nature sometimes!

So if this soulmate belief is so strong and the belief in gods will she should accept that the mRriage was meant to be this way...isn't that right?



Well said dear!!! 👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: nishaipkkdian

Looks like I am the only one who is sharing same sentiments as you. We are minority here 😊


Nope!! Include me too!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: surabi

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I have been thinking about some of the points you have mentioned...like the fact that she returned to ranavat haveli on her own free will is easily forgotten by many here... time and again I see posts here saying she was kept against her will... she was forced the marriage when in fact she had the chance to refute it... he did not like the jhanki and in fact was against it, it was she who went against his word... she willingly played along as his fiance- like making breakfast or serving him tea and I did not see her very much objecting to any of these...
Bottom line- Rudra did not deserve it! Does Paro deserve this hate marriage- No, but she definitely should anticipate something like this if she insists he marry her just because of her belief in "niyati"!!!!!! you cannot force anyone to love you! we know rudra has feelings, I doubt if she does!!!!


Exactly!!! But most are sympathetic towards Paro and are not ready to see that even she made some mistakes. Is there a rule in this world or let's just say in our Indian society that men don't suffer, only women "suffer" in life?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mozart66


Nope!! Include me too!!

include me three !😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: eveline

The sole purpose of this post is to answer certain allegations logically. As I hate to create a ruckus on a forum friend's posts, I am creating a separate one. Also it promises to be long..so please bear with me. Again, as it is in answer to some points, it might feel like I am jumping from point to point...with no correlation...or context...This post it totally in defense of Rudra, those who don't support, please don't give me or my writings your time and patience, you will not find them worth.

Applause for you that you have made the post. since yesterday even i am seeing how Rudra had been completely painted negative, infact his positive actions were also called as negative and harmful. Do not really understand that is it that easy to mock a character only to defend the other ? that clearly shows how there is not even one valid defense against Paro, atleast not for the current track.
- First and foremost, the only purpose of fake warrant was to scare Tejawat, and make him act hasty, so he makes mistakes, which he did. Rudra did not single handedly kill the entire baraat, neither did he start the firing. The terrorists (yes, it was not a baraat btw, they were hard core arm smugglers and terrorists), fired the first shot, and armed forces do not stand there like sitting ducks, ready to be shot at. When any agency starts hostile firing on men in uniform, they defend and they retaliate. They are our defenders, so firing back is a logical response. Hopefully, we all accept that. And a reminder, Rudra was not the first one to retaliate too. Hopefully, we all accept that. Yes, people died on both the sides, as happens in an encounter. Rudra killed some, who were all ganging up on him cruelly (we all saw the show..right??) So once and for all, he did not brutally kill an entire baraat, he and his unit were shot at first and they defended themselves leading to casualties.

Exactly. Any sane person would atleast try and kill the other person in self defense right ? here Rudra not only killed the terrorists to save himself, but also to save Paro, to save the mission he had ordered for. In a live encounter, is it really possible for any officer to manage and arrest every terrorist and throw them in the prison ? NO. Moreover, his colleagues were killed, and he would also be killed had he not been handled it in that way. Plus he had shot Varun to save Paro. Did not we all watch it ? then how come suddenly he becomes a foolish officer who cannot handle a mission and does not deserve the medel at all ? how convenient is the allegation against him ? Obviously while he was being stabbed left right and centre by those smmuglers, how was he supposed to call and seek permission from his senior that should he kill every1 or just leave them , is not that illogical and inhuman , anybody hell, even an animal will eat other animal to save his life, Rudra killed the traitors, and still he is called foolish here ?
- Secondly, when handling Paro, Rudra was not out to make friends. He was dealing with a suspect, in a case of arms smuggling across border, which hopefully we all know is a huge crime. A suspect who was also a prime witness, with whose help he was trying to break a ring of mass murderers dealing in lethal weapons for the past 18 years. Just want to point out, that such criminals, suspected of such crimes, are meted out various harsh and inhuman treatments in real life. Torture, rape, molestation, sodomy...just being a few unpalatable examples.The armed forces, any wing, any nation, have their own way to dealing with such human scum. Yes, human right activists have been struggling with issues for years, but if we want a realist show, we have to digest reality, however bitter it may taste. And Rudra's treatment of Paro was nothing, nothing at all, compared to real life.

Moreover, did we also forget the hospital scenario ? How he made sure that she was kept in the same ward as his, to ensure her safety. Plus, any officer would not fully believe in that Paro is completely white and does not have a hand in the fiasco. obviously, they needed to monitor her, investigate on her. Heck nobdoy even bothers to do that and directly abuses the girl to get what they want. Rudra , to ensure her safety had stepped into the house he had never intended to, he returned to the hell where there is Mohini's taunts as breakfast, his mother's memories as his lunch, his troubled childhood as his dinner, yet he chose to stay in the house with Paro, why ? Not because he was enjoying it, but becos he had no other option. He faked Paro's death to manipulate tejawat and not cause her any harm, that was not a lie to his senior, but that was a tactic which an intilligent officer had played on.


-Paro by her own will returned back to Rudra's place, with a challenge in mind...dekhenge!! So essentially when she threw the gauntlet she was ready for whatever came her way, right?? And yes he was breaking a crucial witness here, and by hook or crook is expected from him.It was part of his duty, which not only means protecting witnesses, also breaking hostile witnesses. And he used whatever means he had handy. Would ppl have preferred if other, more physically cruel means, were used?? And Paro could have walked out any time or asked for help!! And no, no one can believe that Rudra would kill an entire village??? Really?? An entire village?? KCM even offered to help, but she said she trusted Rudra more than her. Go figure!! And I don't remember Rudra touching her at inappropriate or private places, or molesting her...He if anything was very very clear about his intentions, leaving neither in doubt.

I guess this is the biggest W*F statement of this month, the one which mentioned that Rudra is a molester .. Really ? then how come Paro was still very much fine and back to normal by staying with him in the same room for 2-3 long nights ? holding her wrist or making her aware of the hell she would face post marriage was not an abuse but again an indication that how he constantly tried to show her the picture, how he constantly tried to make her face the reality. we all must remember that how he had warned her not to go to the jhaaki, as that would be unsafe for her. It was Paro who challenged him that, he was lying and ditching him and thus she wouldn't listen to him. He tried to tell Paro that how her nandu jija was missing, and why was she missing, he gave her logical reasons, he tried to make her realise that every girl faces the same fate after marriage in birpur, but she still chose to not see the reality but stay in her delusions. and neither did she try to find out that why was Nandu jija missing then ? This is the same guy who had taken a bullet in order to save Paro from molesters, and how conveniently he is being called one only to serve justice for his team, his country, and to Paro.. wow... today Logic just lost its way.
-The wedding rituals...well if a marriage is planned, rituals follow. First, making her his fiance...not his idea. Getting married ...not his idea either. He just tried to take advantage of the situation. He did not want or make the charade public, if anything he was totally against it for safety reasons. He even asked Paro not to go for the jhaankhi...the girl had her own reasons to defy. And again he did not led her to believe that it was out of love, the deal was very clear from his side.

He took advantage of the wedding rituals just how Paro took advantage of the situation and kept giving him nightmares that how she will never sign the papers and he will lose his job. He atleast gave her two options, both of which were very feasible, but what did Paro do ? All she has done is forced him to marry her, not even trying to consider his opinion, not even asking that what he wants . the only option she gave him was to marry her and become her shivji ? really Paro ? thats all?
-How do we think hostile witnesses give their statements...happily and voluntarily?? Not under duress, or pressure...?? No tactics are required, no bargaining, no immunities offered?? No further comments needed here.
- I can say the same for Paro..right?? She too went ahead with the marriage plans, when she could have done something...anything, like taking KCM's help, or contacting someone for help, instead of resorting to prayers only.

leave taking help, she was ulta taking Danveer, Dilsher's ashirvaad to become their bahus.. taking Rudra's mom's kangan and all. 🥱
-When Dilsher was attacked, Rudra asked multiple times (not once, thrice if my memory serves me right) from an eye witness, who was totally neutral, and confirmed. He also had other witnesses to support and corroborate the story. The question here...Rudra could have taken legal action against Paro. Could have filed a complaint against her, accused her of trying to kill her father, have her arrested. He did nothing, just accused her, and didn't take action except ask her to leave him and his family alone.

Ditto, the fact that he did not take any legal actions against her and even tolerated her in his house, in dilsher's room without creating a ruckus about this matter is enough to show that him accusing Paro of this scenario was only one way to keep her distant from him. Just the thing which maithili had told that day. He also asked Paro to be in someone else's custody, it was she who wanted to stay with him, she did not go with her mami also. still Rudra is blamed for not caring about her safety ??
-Rudra is unbalanced?? TIme and again I have seen forum members accuse him of being unbalanced cause of his past. How?? How in the world does an imbalanced human rise to the rank of a Major and also win awards for bravery?? Isn't he the guy who ended an 18 year old arm smuggling racket?? Isn't he the one who stood like a rock in front of Tejawat and refused to bow under pressure?? Isn't he the same guy, who rescued a beautiful girl from being gang raped the first time he saw her?? And the one who sent not one but two beautiful girls back home honorably in spite of Aman's opinion. Or may be he is unstable, so he should have allowed the same beautiful girl to be shot by her so called hubby...good riddance?? Are we talking about he same guy, who took a slap for a beautiful girl, and tended to her painful foot?? Just a reminder there are plenty of rude and short tempered men out there...for that matter even women. Temper and rudeness does not make a man insane, if such were the case quite a few of us would be admitted in an asylum 😃

Plus he is the same guy who had thrashed laila for posioning Paro, same guy who took Mohini's slap to save her honour. Same guy who did not let Paro carry his shoews like a doormat, for her honor, same guy who was hesitant of touching a sleeping paro and medicating her sprained leg, same guy who bowed down to mohini's feet ( which he would never ever do for himself ), so that he can keep Paro in the house, same guy who even after knowing that Paro will not sign the papers tried to save her from tejawat, did not care about his image, but wanted to save her only.
And we all have different definitions for crazy...well I can call some other characters delusional, un realist, self centered, living in a dream world, obsessive, ...but I won't.
-Rudra washed his hands off Paro after the Bapu Sa incident. He asked that another officer take over Paro's safety obligations. Paro refused point blank and decided to stick with him.
Rudra in essence has always saved, rescued Paro, not on one but on several occasions, not only from certain death but from also rape and human trafficking. Don't see how he deserves punishment ?? Just desserts at that??
I doubt if anyone here thinks that Rudra gives men a bad name, yes, I do think that most women are not like Paro here...and that is a different story. About Paro...she is getting what she insisted on, and asked for publicly, and don't they say be careful about what you ask and pray for!!
Once again...I hate to take sides. But if a character is openly and blatantly painted negative, I will rise to defend. Again, tomorrow if someone makes an openly unjust and negative post about Paro, my just responses will be forthcoming. Live and let live in peace !!


I would like to add here, that most of Rudra';s actions, be it harsh or soft have always benefitted Paro, she has always gained, whereas whatever actions Paro has comitted made Rudra pay huge prices, not once but many times. I also hate the fact that how Rudra's opinion is not even considered, starting from dilsher, danveer to gaali ka kutta, every1 shows him one logic that Paro is innocent, so marry her . Are they kidding us ? really? so i am innocent and that means i can force myself on any man i want ? Do they even ask Rudra that why he won't marry, no. He keeps quiet or just screams without taking actions does not mean that his consent does not matter .These people really tooks advantage of his decency, his restrained acts, and blew the fire in his own room. Heck with Paro, who claims to love him but cannot even read his eyes.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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hi Eve !
can i just hug u ? thank you very very much for making points needle sharp on this post.it was direly needed.👍🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: DexterRocks


I would like to add here, that most of Rudra';s actions, be it harsh or soft have always benefitted Paro, she has always gained, whereas whatever actions Paro has comitted made Rudra pay huge prices, not once but many times. I also hate the fact that how Rudra's opinion is not even considered, starting from dilsher, danveer to gaali ka kutta, every1 shows him one logic that Paro is innocent, so marry her . Are they kidding us ? really? so i am innocent and that means i can force myself on any man i want ? Do they even ask Rudra that why he won't marry, no. He keeps quiet or just screams without taking actions does not mean that his consent does not matter .These people really tooks advantage of his decency, his restrained acts, and blew the fire in his own room. Heck with Paro, who claims to love him but cannot even read his eyes.



LOVED loved loved your post Dexter!!!!!!!! 👏👏👏

BANG ON!!!! Well said!! You have put in words all my frustrations!! So beautifully!! Paro sure has lost my support now.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: DexterRocks


I would like to add here, that most of Rudra';s actions, be it harsh or soft have always benefitted Paro, she has always gained, whereas whatever actions Paro has comitted made Rudra pay huge prices, not once but many times. I also hate the fact that how Rudra's opinion is not even considered, starting from dilsher, danveer to gaali ka kutta, every1 shows him one logic that Paro is innocent, so marry her . Are they kidding us ? really? so i am innocent and that means i can force myself on any man i want ? Do they even ask Rudra that why he won't marry, no. He keeps quiet or just screams without taking actions does not mean that his consent does not matter .These people really tooks advantage of his decency, his restrained acts, and blew the fire in his own room. Heck with Paro, who claims to love him but cannot even read his eyes.

Oh dear ! too angry and harsh with paro ! arent we ? 😃
what i think is,
the story line, at this point, is so excellently and so watertight woven that it left no way to be biased towards any of the leads.If we really want to angry with anything, lets express our anger righteously towards the brutality of the fate that destroyed the hopes and dreams of two young lives, and ripped them apart.We cannot just be angry with paro,what ever she did was foolhardy and naive but it was an ardent expression of love and dedication to the man, in whom she had found her safe harbour. And the world is cruel enough to use it against that very man and ruin him.we cannot be angry with rudra too, whatever rudra did yesterday, was the very natural impulse of a wronged man ...seek vengeance, wreck havoc the life of the person who supposedly brought his life, his career his honour to a deadly fullstop.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: shreya_rc

Oh dear ! too angry and harsh with paro ! arent we ? 😃
what i think is,
the story line, at this point, is so excellently and so watertight woven that it left no way to be biased towards any of the leads.If we really want to angry with anything, lets express our anger righteously towards the brutality of the fate that destroyed the hopes and dreams of two young lives, and ripped them apart.We cannot just be angry with paro,what ever she did was foolhardy and naive but it was an ardent expression of love and dedication to the man, in whom she had found her safe harbour. And the world is cruel enough to use it against that very man and ruin him.we cannot be angry with rudra too, whatever rudra did yesterday, was the very natural impulse of a wronged man ...seek vengeance, wreck havoc the life of the person who supposedly brought his life, his career his honour to a deadly fullstop.


Shreya...time for Paro to star considering the effects of her actions at the very least...for her to consider what Rudra might have thought when she was forcing him to accept her and straightway as his wife!
Yes she was naive and did everything without bad intentions but it gets kind of tiresome to always see Rudra being berated when he reacts to Anythng she does...because all he actins are considered innocent!

Yes storyline reached a place where they needed to be brought together and let's hope the journey ahead is a good one!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks once again...all you forum buddies...love the way you guys respond...muaah!! Thank you so so much for taking out the time and effort and patience to not only read but respond to my writings...❤️ I have to confess, every time you guys open up a new line of thought, expose a new angle, share a new perspective ...its just amazing!!

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