To the CVs: How a rape victim behaves

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Dear CVs,

Marital rape, date rape, or stranger rape; they all fall into a broad category i.e. RAPE.

During my long stay in the U.K. I have worked as a counsellor and met many such victims. They have a common syndrome, they do not trust men easily; forget about falling in love or marriage on an immediate basis. Here are lines from such sites

(Ref - http://www.hopesurvivors.org.uk/pg4-rape_effects.html
http://helenair.com/news/state-and-regional/expert-witness-rape-victims-behave-in-unexpected-ways/article_8c574638-770b-11e2-a46c-001a4bcf887a.html)

1. Immediate reactions after a rape may vary. Some rape survivors remain controlled, numb, in shock, denial disbelief. They present a flat affect, quiet, reserved, and have difficulties expressing themselves. Other rape survivors respond quite differently - being very expressive and verbalising feelings of sadness or anger.

2. Rape victims can suffer a significant degree of physical and emotional trauma during the rape, immediately following the rape and over a considerable time period after the rape.

3. A study of rape victims has identified a three-stage process, or syndrome, that occurs as a result of forcible rape or attempted forcible rape. This syndrome is an acute stress reaction to a life-threatening situation that can last from two years to a lifetime.

The horror is too much to bear. Anandi herself had been cheated in a relationship and rape had been attempted on her. After marriage she took time to overcome her trauma and then only began her life with Shiv. At that time, though it did sound a little boring, however that's how things work.


In case of Ganga, the CVs show it differently. I am not saying that being a mother, she should not look for love second time in life. However the quickness shown in her character is unrealistic. Even in case of Sanchi I have read things would be too quick.

I request the CVs to do proper research and homework before dealing with such a delicate subject.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I agree with most of your points.

Actually in Anandi's case too they have not actually given us insght into her behaviour.We were assuming it is because of those things.
They did not show actually how that kidnap and rape attempt affected her properly.
They showed her reluctance to get into a relationship in detail because that part suited their story.
But they never showed how she actually got rid of those inhibition and insecurities in proper detail either.

Ganga - The abuse she suffered is mainly physical more than emotional.She built a shell around herself to protect herself from getting emotionally hurt.
Ratan could inflict only physical damage and she protecte dherself from emotional damage.And we can conclude the way Jagya Ganga story went it is the touch by a loving man that has freed her from fears of physical brutality.This aspect could have been shown by the CVs properly but they did not show.
Ganga's insecurities and fears were also not shown because they didn't care to show.
Her reasons to wanting to bear a child for Jagya and his family also came out of her insecurity.
Ratan married her because he wanted a child when she could not conceive he went married another girl in the meanwhile she found herself pregnant and that ensured her pplace in Ratan's home and family.Her child is the only reason why she was accepted by Ratan.
This insecurity that she will not be accepted if she did not give a child has become deep rooted and that's why she went ahead with pregnancy knowing fully well that she can die.But this aspect was not brought out at all by the CVs.


Sanchi - She doesn't bear the scars of physical torture but emotional scars are there.Like you pointed out that it will be very unrealistic if she is shown trusting a man so fast.I hope atleast this part they will show sensibly as the actress is not going anywhere and she will continue to bombard us with her presence in the show.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Aparna ...Very good analysis...well said .

As you rightly said ...Anandi required some time to adjust herself

in to the new set of life .

But Ganga was longing for solace ...longing for love ...so her immediate

acceptance to conjugal bliss !

In Sanchi' s case ...they are shabbily treating this character from the very beginning ! Now her transformation is also thrust just like a thud on our head !

From the battle of ballistics to the arena of sentiments !!

Now a days some more characters are running into us at jet speed and settling over here permanently !

Let us see ...what the Kabra girl is going to do !

Edited by SEETHA.K - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Debbie: Kudos! You spoke my mind in every way possible. 👏 The Balika Vadhu CVs have never cared about technicalities or sensitive details. In Ganga's case, her initial distrust of and apprehension about Jagya was shown beautifully, and so was the gradual development of trust and even falling in love. But the physical part was where they messed up. Like you very correctly pointed out, rape victims develop deep psychological scars and are often haunted by it for an entire lifetime. The ones who DO recover, do so after at least a complete year has passed, and often AFTER intense counselling and therapy. A woman like Ganga, who has suffered such brutal horror ever since the tender age of twelve, is more likely to display a part of her soul being eternally DEAD---the part which is associated with anticipation of or acceptance of physical pleasures. While JaGan's romance was a delight to watch, Ganga's ready plunging nto a physical relationship, all smiles, was indeed unrealistic. Like somebody said, Creatives started off great with Ganga's character but soon lost focus as far as details were concerned.

Once again, great post.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Readers, thanks for your thoughts.

As a teen ager once I watched one of Rekha's remarkable movie "GHAR", where they had beautifully sketched the mental state of a rape victim. After weeks, even though she appeared alright externally, however inside she was deeply traumatized. In such cases even the sexuality in a human being takes a backseat.


I am not sure what was the time gap between Ganga's last assault and the day she fell in love with Doc Saab, I did not watch that part. However in such cases usually females get into a state of cocoon and come out of it by a man's loving touch. Usually the victim man or woman lose self-confidence in them and believe they lack something which others possess. They build up a sense of guilt. So proper counselling is needed to overcome this fragile state.


Here is a link discussing this http://www.pandys.org/articles/reclaimingsexuality.html

Most survivors of sexual violence will experience difficulties with sex and intimacy. All survivors heal at different speeds, and sexual healing is no different. Here are the things one should do.

1. Realize that you deserve to have a healthy sex life
2. Take a break from sex
3. Work with your partner
4. Talk about sex
5. Try touching and trust exercises
6. Be patient
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@TM, nice post.

For quite some time I was feeling that creatives never research for any track - just show anything - their aim is TRP anyway. Anandi's conduct in second marriage, Ganga's conduct after escape and Sanchi right from the beginning is strange.

In Anandi's case - she suffered heart break, was an abandoned wife, her self-esteem was hurt because of her insensitive husband - still she had not suffered physical abuse (except for the rape attempt). So during second marriage - it was expected that she question herself whether she can prove herself to be an eligible wife- especially when the would be husband is an IAS officer - she should have remembered all those - gawar, chulhe-chuke wali etc. But what did they show? A fear of physical intimacy and complete confidence in other matters. As far as I can understand, a girl in Anandi's condition will not fear physical intimacy. Moreover, it was so out of character of Anandi to first request Shiv to marry her and then after marriage say -"mujhase nahi hoga"- she had been married for quite some time and knew that physical intimacy is a part of marriage, if she was not prepared for this, why did she request Shiv for marriage? For fulfilling her mother's last wish, she could have taken her time before agreeing for marriage and not after marriage. Creatives failed big time here. There was no need to show this fear of intimacy - because Anandi did not suffer sexual abuse. They never clarified why Anandi behaved like this - but since she always had FBs of good times with Jagya during that period, it appears that they wanted to show that she loved her (original) husband very much and was forced to remarry due to circumstances (a 'good' girls in serials/films thinks on the line of pati parmeshwar) - I know many people will not agree with me (some people think it was because of Jagya's betrayal), but I think for a lady who has not suffered physical abuse - fear of physical relations should not be there. Her suffering was abandonment, betrayal and degrading remarks from previous husband - so her fears should have related to commitment itself. If instead of 'good' memories of Jagya, she remembered how he degraded her and comparing this to the behaviour of Shiv - it would have looked more realistic. Realisation of love before marriage and confession on the first night would have looked natural.

But then in serial world - the leads are so innocent that they do not know their own feelings, one day suddenly they realise that they are in love, then hesitate to confess - creatives think all this fetches TRPs. Even Jagya was shown realising his love for Ganga one fine day.

They started Ganga track on a good note. She was determined to escape from abuse and did not trust men. But after coming to badi haveli - the changes in her were hard to believe. She had seen the worst in a man - such victims cannot even think of physical intimacy for quite some time or even trust a man easily - this looked so out of place and out of character. In her situation, a lady will consider her benefactor more like an elder brother/guardian instead of love interest.

Sanchi is falling in and out of love - when actually she does not even know what is love. From what was shown in serial, it never looked that she was in love either with Jagya or Saurabh - both times it appeared that she was doing this to fulfill her jid. Do not know what they will show in Sanchi - Kabra case, but if she falls in love with him- it will be most regressive track.

Of all the characters - Shiv was the only one who was consistent in these matters - he agreed for marriage because he wanted so, loved Anandi, was ready to give her time even before marriage, gave her option to reconsider her decision etc. But he was shown larger than life when he gave in to Jagya's emotional blackmailing and after marriage during mujhse nahi hoga phase. I am not saying that he should not have gave time to Anandi after marriage to sort out her feelings - but I would have liked him to question her about why she was adamant to marry asap when she was not ready for marriage.



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Posted: 12 years ago
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i completely agree with you ,cvs have taken easy route ,in sanchi s case ,they are focusing on redemption and she has agreed for marriage for whatever reason i found very unrealistic actually ,they havent shown it in realistic way,the trauma that victim faces,may be want show like after sanchi marriage ,she faces problems just like anandi faced with shiv.But thats quite unrealistic.If they have taken the subject then they should have shown the details ,its effects
anandi s case i dint find that unrealistic ,she wasnt ready for marriage but agreed becoz of her mother s wish ,she liked him ,but needed time ,it isnt for easy for everyone ,people need time to completely accept a person.It isnt so easy specially in anandi s case.I know anandi was very confident in most matters ,its not she lost confidence on herself ,but still in this particular area,there was fear,But that for me wasnt that unrealistic.

Ganga and jagya story was too filmy,her meeting with her,reaching whereever she is ,save her ,jump of terrace,but coming to ganga character,her liking for jagya wasnt unreal but her way of talking to him and even rest of men in house,i mean the conditions she stayed ,such women dont even open their mouth in front of men,its their way of showing respect,they dont behave friendly with a man especially.They dont even see eye to eye.But ganga in short span of time was so comfortable with dactersa.Now her way of speaking hindi /english ,unrealistic,the current ganga doesnt match to that ganga at all.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think there is no set rule for how a person behaves to a particular set of circumstances because even with something as heinous as rape, the circumstances are different, the settings are different and the person (s) being affected are different in every instance. The brain and the heart are very complex things that are wired differently for each person and thats why everyone reacts differently to the same situation. To say a rape victim should behave such and such way as a blanket statement is completely wrong. The folks here will be shocked to know that I know girls who have been raped and have completely forgiven their rapists and are living healthy, fulfilling lives with no trauma. Is that what you call "normal rape victim behavior" according to your code of conduct? Will you accuse these girls of not mourning their rape for a reasonable period of time? Would you say they are characterless or freaks?

Does anyone here have any idea to the reason behind the trauma of the girls and boys who are violated? The act of being violated is a big part, true. But there's also the fear of being outcast, of being stigmatized, of expectation from the society that the victim should be mourning for being raped for a "reasonable" amount of time. It's not being allowed to forget that one has been violated, of not getting support for moving on with his or her life which still has plenty to offer including love, yes even physical love. It's the fear of having to carry around the label of "raped" all their lives and of living in fear of embracing any positivity that comes into their lives because the society deems the "reasonable" amount of time has not past yet. Who decides what time is reasonable anyways? Lives are not destroyed just because of rape, its destroyed much more completely due to the stigma associated with it.

I would think sensible folks, like most seem to be here, would applaud Ganga: a rural woman who has beaten down all odds to not just have a fulfilling professional career but found it in her soul to love again. Instead of accusing her of not being in victim mode for enough time--again, what would be an appropriate time frame according to those who think she moved on a little too fast? Sure, some of it is unrealistic--like her journey in becoming a nurse-- but it sends out a great message of empowerment and not that of weak characterization. Now, saanchi is supposedly going to fall in love with her rapists brother, in quick succession for the third time. What would you say to that? I would say good for her if her love is true at least this time, even though she doesn't deserve it yet. Not because she was raped, but because she's just a very bad person and the lawyer guy seems to be the direct opposite.
Edited by sowmya_jairam - 12 years ago
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There's no time-frame, true. But people do take SOME time to break free from numbness. Ganga took less than a year. And lest you forget, Ganga's was not a one-time experience. She waa routinely facing it for most of her life into adulthood. Her falling in love was not unfathomable, but her easy succumbing to physical attraction was a bit unrealistic IMO. Specially since she's a village belle who has never been exposed to professional counselling of any sort. And, I don't think anybody called Ganga characterless or freak or anything of the sort. At one point in time, she was being hailed as a more earthy, relatable and strong character than Anandi. Her every step has been cheered on by forum members which includes me. But that doesn't mean that we cannot sometimes take a more practical view of what has been shown.

Regarding Sanchi, she's a sketchy character and has always been a cardboard cut-out, so nothing surprising about the zero realism in her behaviour.
Edited by krystal_watz - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Sowmya - nobody is accusing Ganga for not being in victim mode for enough time. Everybody copes with the trauma differently - but like they say - doodh ka jala chhachh bhi phoonk kar pita hai - it is very difficult to think a person, who had seen the worst in a man to start trusting another man so soon. Ganga was not a rape victim like Sanchi - there was no social stigma attached with her, but what she underwent was too horrible and because it went on for too long- it is natural that the healing would take some time. She was shown going to Jagya's room alone at night, Jagya- Ganga discussed their life mostly at night when no one from the family was around, it looked so out of place for two reasons - Ganga was a victim of abuse and both Ganga and Jagya belonged to conservative society.
Women empowerment should not be shown like fairy tale - because it then loses its credibility.

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