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Posted: 12 years ago

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OK i think the last three episodes have been over melodramatic actually OTT-Over the top

Especially making Jalal-Akbar the great cry so much that too in front of his citizens and subordinates is not correct. An emperor and a person in position usually do not publiclly display their emotions why? Because that shows your vulnerability and people assume you are weak etc. If you observe the mughal miniature paintings usually the emperors and their kids were very formal in those paintings, there was rarely an public display of love, affection, happiness etc. In those days anyway men were expected to not show emotions especially royals.

But i am not going to delve on that aspect of mughal customs and psychology.

I wanted to discuss the one dialogue that said how much Jalal loves Jodha "If you leave Jodha begum, i will follow you for sure". The greatest form of love is when a person can die for another person. Jodha displayed it by drinking the poison meant for Jalal and today Jalal reciprocated that love by telling her "You are hell bent on leaving this world, but i shall snatch you back from anyone-meaning even God and if you still want to leave i am going to come behind you i swear". That stopped adamant Jodha's journey to after life. If you read a book called "Power of your subconcious mind" there it says a human subconcious mind has tremendous potential even power to postpone eminent death. Today jalal's dhamki to die with Jodha gave rise to this power to help her come back to earth.

Though i remember Jalal already showed her how much he loved during Mohan tiger attack scene by taking on a tiger to save Jodha's life and his too.

Jalal said another significant statement today "From today my life belongs only to you". Now this can be out of gratitude and love both because his life is because of Jodha taking that poison kheer instead of him. Ruqaiah definetly will not like such a statement from jalal because she is possesive of him. I see a potential finall clash for jalal coming up shortly between ruqu and jodhu. Jalal condition will be like dhobi ka khutta na ghar ka na ghat ka poor guy neither can he leave Ruqu nor Jodha

Wow now i am scared after saying all these dialogues if CVs again show jalal-jodha fighting and jodha leaving agra or jalal not trusting her then this episode will turn out to be a damp squib actually. Because if after such great display of love which is ready to give up life for each other you cannot become mistrusting again fights yes but not to level they showed previously and defineltly not mistrust.

Jalal acted very well yesterday and today and Jodha was very good in the heaven scene. Hope now CVs end this crap misunderstanding and fight tracks and show love story. But some scenes were over melodramatic like jalal's tears in front of citizens and Jodha being fried like tandoor on some smoke pot what was that? If i were jalal i would not have allowed that and hakim sahiba will be in jail for trying such barbaric cures on my family members.

The starting Kanha scene of Jodha-Jalal nokh jhok which episode was that can anyone tell i have not seen it.

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Posted: 12 years ago

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amazing episode...amazing dialogue...amazing acting by rajat tokas.

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Posted: 12 years ago

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amazing analysis

the starting akdha kanha nok jhok scene was just a flash back

i do not remember it being shown before

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Wow now i am scared after saying all these dialogues if CVs again show jalal-jodha fighting and jodha leaving agra or jalal not trusting her then this episode will turn out to be a damp squib actually. Because if after such great display of love which is ready to give up life for each other you cannot become mistrusting again fights yes but not to level they showed previously and defineltly not mistrust.

At the end of day this is the genuine fact..Jalal abruptly is saying deep lovey-dovey dialogues in last 2 episodes..now the matter of observing is how much cvs keep this stability in Jalal in future..i m not quite overwhelmed with crumbling down Jalal.i will judge him seeing his future action towards jodha.

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Posted: 12 years ago

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beautiful analysis...i completely agree each and every word

the Akdha nhok-jhok scene is a new one...it was never shown before...

in earlier episode they did showed once during ruku's MC track...when jodha broke the jug and ask him to join it back... before he enter jodha's room she was praying...than he had a FB of jodha asking him to remove his shoes thats it and he did it...nothing much happen...

this is new Akdha scenes with war of words b/w two strong personalities

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Originally posted by: nabiii
Wow now i am scared after saying all these dialogues if CVs again show jalal-jodha fighting and jodha leaving agra or jalal not trusting her then this episode will turn out to be a damp squib actually. Because if after such great display of love which is ready to give up life for each other you cannot become mistrusting again fights yes but not to level they showed previously and defineltly not mistrust.

At the end of day this is the genuine fact..Jalal abruptly is saying deep lovey-dovey dialogues in last 2 episodes..now the matter of observing is how much cvs keep this stability in Jalal in future..i m not quite overwhelmed with crumbling down Jalal.i will judge him seeing his future action towards jodha.

@bold...thats what i am fearing all abt...i love the scenes but this are sub-conscious scenes b/w Akdha...there is still long journey...the real confession is yet to happen...curently jallu's soul gave jodha's soul the will power to live since she has lost it...this are scenes of soul connection...the real test starts when jodha open her eyes...will jallu remain stable just like he did in the entire poison track of jodha...we must not forget that there is ruku...MA...AK...SD...AM...MH(soon to be negative)...those two loosers shivani-tej...even i am going to judge him seeing his future action with

ben's track had got its closure

poison track is going to get a closure this week

but the letter MU is still in pending

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Posted: 12 years ago

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A very coherent, thoughtful and focussed post.

I agree completely with para 1. As for the OTT aspect, I felt that too after watching just the precaps, but now it seems to me that it was all necessary to achieve this quantum change in the attitudes of both of them towards each other. It could not have been achieved by the kind of rational discussions I would have preferred. And as for Jalal at the mazhar, that was so moving that any doubts about its being OTT never even entered my mind.

The Kanha flashback was never shown before. Jodha once scolds Jalal for not removing his shoes when Mynavati is visiting them at Agra and they are pretending to be lovey dovey. Then, in the scene where Jodha smashes the glass vase, during the dature ka ark track, Jalal himself remembers and removes his shoes before entering the puja area. So this scene of today would have had to be before the dature ka ark track.

One more point in what Jalal said to Jodha during what can be called, for lack of a better term, the soul talk.

The single most important affirmation that Jalal made there, and this on behalf of Jodha as well was Hum donon ka wajood ab ek doosre se hai, aapke bina hum nahin, hamare bina aap nahin.

This is the core, the essence of their present relationship, whether it is acknowledged by her or not. As I had written in my post of earlier today about the last episode 166,

He is really praying, as much and perhaps more so, for himself, for his own emotional survival.For he now knows, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that if his Jodha Begum were to die, something vital in him would die with her, that he would never be whole again. That he would be but a shadow of himself, crippled inside, and crushed under a lifelong burden of corrosive regret...

...What has been said of Jalal above is equally true of Jodha. She does not merely seek to sacrifice her life for her pati. She also seeks to protect herself from the arid marubhoomi (desert) that she now knows that her life would be without him, even if he were to continue to ignore her and despise her. Yes, she would be no more, but that would, for her, be preferable to surviving without him.

The real motive of the one is the mirror image of the motive of the other.

I do not think Jalal will backtrack from his declaration of love for Jodha, which he has made when he was in full possession of his senses. Jodha does not know anything of what he has been thru, and is thus very likely to repeat the lines used by her soul

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Originally posted by: myviewprem
OK i think the last three episodes have been over melodramatic actually OTT-Over the top
Especially making Jalal-Akbar the great cry so much that too in front of his citizens and subordinates is not correct. An emperor and a person in position usually do not publiclly display their emotions why? Because that shows your vulnerability and people assume you are weak etc. If you observe the mughal miniature paintings usually the emperors and their kids were very formal in those paintings, there was rarely an public display of love, affection, happiness etc. In those days anyway men were expected to not show emotions especially royals.
But i am not going to delve on that aspect of mughal customs and psychology.

I wanted to discuss the one dialogue that said how much Jalal loves Jodha "If you leave Jodha begum, i will follow you for sure". The greatest form of love is when a person can die for another person. Jodha displayed it by drinking the poison meant for Jalal and today Jalal reciprocated that love by telling her "You are hell bent on leaving this world, but i shall snatch you back from anyone-meaning even God and if you still want to leave i am going to come behind you i swear". That stopped adamant Jodha's journey to after life. If you read a book called "Power of your subconcious mind" there it says a human subconcious mind has tremendous potential even power to postpone eminent death. Today jalal's dhamki to die with Jodha gave rise to this power to help her come back to earth.
Though i remember Jalal already showed her how much he loved during Mohan tiger attack scene by taking on a tiger to save Jodha's life and his too.

Jalal said another significant statement today "From today my life belongs only to you". Now this can be out of gratitude and love both because his life is because of Jodha taking that poison kheer instead of him. Ruqaiah definetly will not like such a statement from jalal because she is possesive of him. I see a potential finall clash for jalal coming up shortly between ruqu and jodhu. Jalal condition will be like dhobi ka khutta na ghar ka na ghat ka poor guy neither can he leave Ruqu nor Jodha

Wow now i am scared after saying all these dialogues if CVs again show jalal-jodha fighting and jodha leaving agra or jalal not trusting her then this episode will turn out to be a damp squib actually. Because if after such great display of love which is ready to give up life for each other you cannot become mistrusting again fights yes but not to level they showed previously and defineltly not mistrust.

Jalal acted very well yesterday and today and Jodha was very good in the heaven scene. Hope now CVs end this crap misunderstanding and fight tracks and show love story. But some scenes were over melodramatic like jalal's tears in front of citizens and Jodha being fried like tandoor on some smoke pot what was that? If i were jalal i would not have allowed that and hakim sahiba will be in jail for trying such barbaric cures on my family members.

The starting Kanha scene of Jodha-Jalal nokh jhok which episode was that can anyone tell i have not seen it.

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Posted: 12 years ago

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I did not find the episodes ott, and these scenes are necessary to show the shift in their relationship and their dependency of one another. It remains to be seen how JJ equation will change after Jodha wakes up. Looking forward to seeing their actual physical interaction and hope Ruq does not become kabab ki haddi by entering the hojra in tomorrow's episode. Moti be on your guard and do not let Ruqs enter no matter what!😃

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@bold...thats what i am fearing all abt...i love the scenes but this are sub-conscious scenes b/w Akdha...there is still long journey...the real confession is yet to happen...curently jallu's soul gave jodha's soul the will power to live since she has lost it...this are scenes of soul connection...the real test starts when jodha open her eyes...will jallu remain stable just like he did in the entire poison track of jodha...we must not forget that there is ruku...MA...AK...SD...AM...MH(soon to be negative)...those two loosers shivani-tej...even i am going to judge him seeing his future action with

ben's track had got its closure

poison track is going to get a closure this week

but the letter MU is still in pending

I do not think that letter misunderstanding matters anymore A person took your death upon herself how will it matter that a few months back he called you to her place and rejected your love overtures. It does not matter any longer at least to jalal as much as it matters to us viewers

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