I am extremely worried about Alexander - Page 3

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Of course there is nothing I would like better than for Alexander to have some sort of subterranean plan to outfox Chanakya, the Takshashila gang, and Porus all at once. But there are three caveats I have, in all honesty, to enter.

One, they will NEVER show Chanakya being outwitted by anyone, least of all by a foreigner. So,any idea of Alexander outwitting Chanakya should be shelved.

Two, my dear Inlieu, I remember with great clarity all the complicated scenarios we thought up concerning the outcome of Puru's gladiatorial bout in Persia. What happened? It was not just that Puru made a fool of Alexander, but the CVs made even bigger fools of us.

Three, I somehow cannot digest the idea of Chanakya approving this kind of disgraceful trade off. But if he has something up his sleeve, it cannot be Ambhiraj fighting Alexander. It has to be something else to trip Alexander up. I don't know what that could be, but it is a likely thing to happen. Chanakya has to always come out on top, even more than Puru. We just have to remember that.

OK. Sufficeth unto the day is the evil thereof. Good night!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion

Alexander's character got ruined when they showed him as a child killer. He always knew to differenciate between good and bad. He knew how to use his brains. But I guess Philip's betrayal completely changed him into a monster. 🤢

It's unbelievable to think that he needs Taxila's help to get to Porus.

Originally posted by: Vicariously

To be very honest, I wasn't surprised to see those disturbing and cruel scenes for Alexander as it was already made obvious to me by the 1st the promos that the scheme of the makers of Porus is to try to draw a very drastic line between GOOD vs EVIL opposing Porus, the Mahan one against the ruthless and aggressive, Alexander. Can you recall the "curse on the West part of the promo ? This was how the voiceover qualified Alexander's birth and introduced him 1st to viewers. This one really had me boiling but I settled down to watch how the actor's gonna embody Alexander's role. And so far, he has portrayed Alexander with such zeal and grace. He's definitely the most convincing version of Alexander the Great 😃

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yes, Aunty!

We all would love to see a superb master plan of Alexander's being revealed at the right time. I took stock in the fact that he told Chanakya that he had a reason for asking Taxila to surrender. He probably wasn't referring to Porus then. When Chanakya mentioned Porus, Alexander was surprised but latched on to it.

It is not even clear whether Alexander knows by now that Puru is the crown prince of Paurav Rashrtra, though in exile right now. As for what he meant, I have no idea, for he never had any concept of the immensity of India, or of the military strength of Magadha. I think he did mean Porus, but that would mean that he knew Porus was i n Takshashila. But how?

I agree, it would be tough for them to show Chanakya being outwitted, but showing Alexander fall into a silly trap would go against what they've been showing us about Alexander's strength being his mind. If at all Alexander is shown to be losing it should be on the battlefront, not before that during mind games. It just seems so illogical.

Not tough. Impossible.

And equally, as the High Priestess cannot be wrong - our TV folks have tremendous reverence for all kinds of soothsayers, if not for history - Alexander cannot be defeated on the battlefield. But as for Alexander being made a fool of, we saw it in action during the gladiatorial games in Persia. Methinks the chap who wrote the earlier Alexander has been sacked for not being in tune with the head honcho's vision, and now you have this obedient hack hacking away at Alexander. So don't cling to that outdated idea about how they have developed Alexander till recently. And what is all this guff about logic???

The fact is that we already see in the pre-cap how Chanakya's standing by Ambhiraj's decision to surrender to Alexander. When he told Porus and Ambhiraj earlier that the plan was for Taxila to pretend to hand him over to Alexander he already knew this was not going to be the case. His advice to Porus about being wary of the wind changing direction seemed to indicate that.

As far as I can remember,there was NO mention by Chanakya of even pretending to hand over Puru. It was Puru who said that Alexander wants to make him bandi. Chanakya only talks of Takshashila pretending to cooperate with Alexander. Of course he knew what was going to happen, including what seems now to be a genuine handover of Puru.

Your second caveat doesn't need elaboration. Hours of analysis gone up in smoke!

Chanakya's not averse to sneaky tactics at all, and if it means prodding Ambhiraj on to make peace with Alexander by telling him that Alexander only wants Puru's head, then it's unlikely that he will hesitate to push for this to happen. In exchange, Ambhiraj can ensure thre will be no bloodshed in his kingdom and provide information about Porus. Chanakya doesn't consider things like honor or disgrace, as per what he told Ambhikumar. Didn't he say today that part of his job or his university/school's is to train rulers from all over the world in handling state affairs and kingship-related things? He will only provide advice to PR and Taxila, or pretend to.

I don't think Chanakya will be actively involved in any battle that Taxila engages in or Paurav Rashtra. I feel as if Chanakya's playing Paurav Rashtra and Taxila against each other and it surely fits in with his own grand schemes. Perhaps he sees Porus and Paurav Rashtra as pawns he can sacrifice in order to fulfill his ultimate goal of victory. But for whom, one may ask? Next thing you know we'll see Chandragupta Maurya and I won't be surprised at all if that were the case since he was Chanakya's preferred candidate for the ruler of akhand bharat! 😕 If PR do eventually win the battle on their own, thanks to Porus' superhuman capabilities, it might even be depicted as Chanakya's plan to make Porus focus on Alexander and not rely on untrustworthy "allies" like Taxila to help him. I am speculating, of course.

Chanakya was NEVER involved in any actual fighting, which was all done by Chandragupta. He however prepared the whole game plan down to the last detail.

As for all these new concepts that you are floating, kindly desist. My head aches as it is.😆 But bear one thing in mind. Chanakya is siding for the present with Puru, and he should stay that way till the end of the show. He wants him to stall Alexander. In the process. whatever happens to Alexander's ego, it will always be Chanakya who comes out on top. And the way Alexander is going, that ought to be a piece of cake for the wily Acharya.😉

Alexander puts on a new shinier helmet this time as he delivers his message to Roxanne's face. It looks like he's getting battle-ready but I suspect he won't let his guard down even when meeting Ambhiraj for a peace treaty. I didn't mean he was going to knife Ambhiraj, but that he might consider teaching them a lesson for betraying their ally PR. He didn't "fight and conquer" Bactria. He made peace and promoted Oxyartes after getting rid of Bessus. Normally I would have expected him to do something to or about Ambhiraj for their proposed betrayal against Porus, just like he did in Bactria, since he thinks a ruler is responsible for everything that happens in his kingdom. That would have gone perfectly well with his mindset. It's all so confusing now, I don't know what to think anymore.

I don't think any of this is going to happen. CVs Bactria ko shaayad ab tak bhool chuke hain.

I am resisting writing Alexander off because he did observe Chanakya closely. What he concluded, who knows? If the CVs did not intend to butcher his character (further), then the only reason I could think he brushed off Chanakya's explanations about culture during the meal was because he felt it was a facade and couldn't be bothered by the show and tell. Plus the fact that as the Badshah he doesn't have the patience to wait until the entire message from Taxila has been delivered to him.

We, my dear, are clutching at straws while the deluge threatens! But Alexander does watch Chanakya's aachamaneeyam, the grace said before a meal, with great curiosity, which was distinctly at odds with his rude brush off.

At this point the CVs seem hell-bent on ruining their own creation. It reminds me of the final line of instructions that Ethan Hunt receives for every new assignment in Mission Impossible.

This show will self-destruct in 5 ... (days/hours/minutes/seconds - you fill in the blanks).

Right now, I just want this show to shut up shop and go away as quickly as they can manage. I am tired of picking up the pieces of Alexander twice a week.😡

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

My Alex will rock & everyone will shock

Originally posted by: inlieu

You know Aunty, I used to think that I was resilient to ridiculous tracks on TV, but after watching today's episode and pre-cap, I can actually say that my brain hurts! We don't see enough of Alexander on screen and never get an insight into what he's thinking. We speculate and debate and then more often than not, fall flat on our faces.

The CVs show nothing of Aristotle and his importance in Alexander's life, not even a mention, and then they just drop it in mid-sentence where most of the viewers who don't know "Arastu" would have missed it. Blink and miss. 😡 That too, only to glorify Chanakya further and justify Alexander showing him respect.

Alexander is busy with romancing his wife, which is understandable but we have no clue what's going on in his mind with respect to battle strategy and if he's done any homework on Taxila and Paurav Rashtra. Does he, for example, even know about Paurav Rashtra, Anusuya, Bamni, etc, and the fact that these people were also involved in ousting Darius?

Yes, the point about the High Priestess' word being unshakeable is also true. They will not go against that. I don't know if this is their way of keeping us in suspense, but all it's doing is driving us crazy. I fear the ending will be contrived beyond belief and I'll have food poisoning just watching it.

They have so much material to go with but look at what we're seeing. Although I loved the Chanakya-Alexander scenes in terms of both actors' performances, I wish these two had never met, as was the case in real life. It took all the fun away of each party plotting on their side in a game of one upmanship that would have been far more exciting to watch. It was bad enough having Puru in Faras, the trip from which he doesn't seem to have learnt anything useful. 😕

As for the writing of Alexander's track, I think the folks writing the PR track have now started to contribute to Alexander's one too. The only reason he probably still gets good dialogues is because they had to hire an Urdu-speaking bloke who has to maintain consistency. Otherwise, aaargh! 😡

Ok, I must have misunderstood, for I thought Chanakya's plan was for Taxila to surrender and then to pretend to hand of Porus to Alexander. So do you feel that he will also prepare the whole game plan for Taxila and Paura Rashtra? I don't see how handing Porus over will fit into this but I guess we'll have to wait until tomorrow's episode.

It hurts me just to think that they'll put Alexander down even further and bruise his ego and character further simply to justify harebrained tracks. After the elaborate show of Alexander's hatred for treachery at Bactria, I am finding it hard to digest that he will suddenly act so differently now, even if he is enticed by the prospect of capturing Puru.

A few days ago when we all felt the show was about to end, I was thinking we'd get another 2-3 weeks max. It seems to be far more drawn out than that, and looks like it could carry over to next month! 😕

I have loved Rohit's performances enough to keep watching this show despite the painful turn it's taken. Right now though, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather they keep it short and end as gracefully as they can for the actors' sake. I can't bear to see Rohit having to act as Alexander caught in ridiculous circumstances and behaving illogically. Neither can I bear to see Sameksha playing a "scared" Olympias! They just need to self-destruct as cleanly as possible at this point.

Originally posted by: inlieu

@Aunty, I will always look out for your posts.

I've been working on a post about Alexander and Roxanne for the past few days, but with my current mood I am wont to keep stalling publishing that here. 😭