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Posted: 7 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: inlieu

Uff! I agree 2000% percent with what you said.

His main motivation to conquer Bharat has always been Olympias' teaching and the will to outdo Philip's achievements. Winning over Roxanne should have been a secondary thing and definitely not the primary driver for victory. They are trying to reduce his glory as a warrior to a frantic, jealous husband. He's taunting her the same way he did with Barsine, and we know how that ended up!😡Maybe he will capture Porus and then bring him to Roxanne, who will tie the raakhi and let him go?😕

And yes,he would have never directly admitted that he's here for Porus, unless he's doing this to fool Chanakya. If they destroy the foundation of this character it would be a real shame indeed. Perhaps he's seen through Chanakya's plan and decided to take matters into his own hands like he did with Bessus?

Totally agree would never have shown disinterest in a new culture, especially one that he does not know about and where it could help him rule people's hearts not just the land, as has been his aim so far. He would never have said those words to anyone, and definitely not to an aalim like Chanakya who reminds him of his ustaad Aristotle. By the way, he did mention Aristotle: in Urdu it's "Arastu".

Even worse ! They did make Alexander take Aristotle's name and yet, few instants after that he expressed his complete disinterest in their culture 🥱 This all better be his plan. I hope that startled face he showed to Chanakya today wasn't to be read literally and boy really did smell something going off in that treaty otherwise it's gonna be all gloomy gloomy afterwards for us Alexander disciples

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sashashyam

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Posted: 7 years ago

#12

See, my dear, we, and I especially, have spent our time fashioning elaborate, logical scenarios. Not one of those ever materialised. And what happened every time was the stupid , predictable CV scenario. I am not going down that Le Carre route this time; I am tired of being made to look like a fool, which I undoubtedly was. 😉

If Chanakya has some master plan, how is he going to execute it without armed force, which now means only Ambhiraj, for the Paurav army is not with Bamni or Puru? So he cannot do something against Ambhiraj's will. I was shocked to see him agreeing to handing over Puru, and instantly suspected a rat. But what?

I don't agree with @bold.Trading Porus seems to be a huge thing for Alexander, if not everything. Then again, he seems to attach very little importance to Chanakya personally.

Again, Takshashila is not Bactria, and they cannot show Alexander conquering it. There is a limit to even their historical distortions. What then can he do? He cannot knife Ambhiraj. The way I see it now is the way I saw it happening in my Murga post. Only, the trap I had foreseen does not seem to exist.

Then again, why the helmet for Alexander? All questions and no answers.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: inlieu
@Aunty
What I meant regarding the Bessus affair was that the Bactrians thought they were pushing for things to work in their favor by killing Darius, but Alexander had something else in mind. Alexander might be doing the same thing here in terms of planning something that will stump Taxila too as they are trying to push things to their advantage.

Chanakya's master plan is known only to him at this point. For all you know, he's got something far more strategic in mind that even Taxila isn't aware of. If Alexander's comment about him being reminded of Aristotle has further significance, then our Shah-e-Asia should, in theory, smell a rat. I don't think he was convinced that Chanakya would come all the way in person just to trade up Porus.
Wait, I'm expecting too much from the CVs again. 😡

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago

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sashashyam

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Of course there is nothing I would like better than for Alexander to have some sort of subterranean plan to outfox Chanakya, the Takshashila gang, and Porus all at once. But there are three caveats I have, in all honesty, to enter.

One, they will NEVER show Chanakya being outwitted by anyone, least of all by a foreigner. So,any idea of Alexander outwitting Chanakya should be shelved.

Two, my dear Inlieu, I remember with great clarity all the complicated scenarios we thought up concerning the outcome of Puru's gladiatorial bout in Persia. What happened? It was not just that Puru made a fool of Alexander, but the CVs made even bigger fools of us.

Three, I somehow cannot digest the idea of Chanakya approving this kind of disgraceful trade off. But if he has something up his sleeve, it cannot be Ambhiraj fighting Alexander. It has to be something else to trip Alexander up. I don't know what that could be, but it is a likely thing to happen. Chanakya has to always come out on top, even more than Puru. We just have to remember that.

OK. Sufficeth unto the day is the evil thereof. Good night!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: sashashyam
See, my dear, we, and I especially, have spent our time fashioning elaborate, logical scenarios. Not one of those ever materialised. And what happened every time was the stupid , predictable CV scenario. I am not going down that Le Carre route this time; I am tired of being made to look like a fool, which I undoubtedly was. 😉

If Chanakya has some master plan, how is he going to execute it without armed force, which now means only Ambhiraj, for the Paurav army is not with Bamni or Puru? So he cannot do something against Ambhiraj's will. I was shocked to see him agreeing to handing over Puru, and instantly suspected a rat. But what?

I don't agree with @bold.Trading Porus seems to be a huge thing for Alexander, if not everything. Then again, he seems to attach very little importance to Chanakya personally.

Again, Takshashila is not Bactria, and they cannot show Alexander conquering it. There is a limit to even their historical distortions. What then can he do? He cannot knife Ambhiraj. The way I see it now is the way I saw it happening in my Murga post. Only, the trap I had foreseen does not seem to exist.

Then again, why the helmet for Alexander? All questions and no answers.

Shyamala Aunty

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inlieu

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Posted: 7 years ago

#14

In all this, if Puru had really been shown as a hero, I would have found some solace. But no, that track has been royally messed up too.

Originally posted by: --cute.manasi--
its disappointing but not surprising since puru would always be the only hero for them .
hoping this turns out to be some plan of alexander ...😒

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Posted: 7 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9
Alex was actually shocked when chanakya said about poras coz i sure he dint demanded poras in letter
Alex is not like poras who believe Jo dikhta hai vo sach hai infact Alex is a believer that Jo dikhta hai jaruri nhi ki vo sach ho.

Mujhe 2 Puru ke liye sad feel ho rha hai , bechara fight ke liye tayyar ho rha hai par usko pata hi nhi fight ho gi hi nhi , bas uska exchange hoga.

The best thing would be if Taxila keeps waiting for Alexander and in the meantime he goes and grabs Puru. 😆

Or maybe because of Chanakya's warning, Puru suspects something and escapes by riding Dumbo the flying elephant.

He doesn't even have an army yet!

What's he going to do? Go challenge Alexander to a hand-to-hand combat to decide the fate of Macedonia vs Paurav Rashtra like we saw in the movie Troy??? 😕

Edited by inlieu - 7 years ago

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Posted: 7 years ago

#16

Maybe initially it was due to the Faras incident and Barsine's actions and maybe it still is, but that's not at all what it seems like from his words.

Faras and Barsine are nowhere to be seen. 😆

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9
Relax guys , Alex don't want poras coz of roxxane but he wanted poras coz of poras challenge in faras. He want 2 defeat poras at any cost coz puru is his mukaddar, roxxane 2 zabardassti hi as gayi hai. After poras faras kand , Alex all eager 2 meet poras on his own land .

Agar roxxane nhi hogi 2 Alex poras se nhi fight karenga

Roxxane is there or not don't matter Alex , Alex was all determined 2 fight poras before meeting roxxane

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inlieu

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Posted: 7 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9
Alexander Ko itna bhi damage Kiya jitna king poras ko Kiya hai. King poras ka to joke bana ke rakh hai, is samay poras ki halat hai na ghar ka na ghar ka
Paurav rashtra ki phatichar army uske saath nhi , ambhiraj bhi uska saath nhi dega

Lekin bechara phir bhi fight karne ke sapne dekh rha hai

Puru ke paas army hai na! Haathi uske saathi! 😆

Even Hasti who usually does dumb things was cautioning him about taking wild animals into the war, but no Puru is able to pull an elephant by its leg without breaking his back and then flying up to land on his back! Dasyu are also good at flying and jumping so maybe they will join him.

@Aunty, I agree the CGI work was poor and did not look at all convincing to me.

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Posted: 7 years ago

#18

@Vicariously,

You're not the only Alexandrophile! Count me in.

Despite all the weird things happening in the show, and the continued descent in Alexander's character graph, the eternal optimist in me hopes that Alexander has some interesting plan or sees through this at the last moment. It's also possible that Roxanne has a part to play in foiling Chanakya's plans - she had a weird look in her eyes in the pre-cap. I am trying not to feel sad, but it's hard! I can understand the mood in this forum right now!

In any case, if Taxila willingly surrender, Alexander will already have reinforcements in his fight against Puru. I am curious to see if and when Puru discovers the treachery and whether or not Chanakya's duality will be discovered. He knows that Chanakya believes in sneaky tactics and if it's in the interest of the "greater good" to sacrifice Porus/Paurav Rashtra, then he will not hesitate to do so. The question is, will Puru will be able to make this connection in time?

I am wondering if there is a reason that Bamni is still around. Will he overhear Chanakya and Ambhiraj's plans and then send off his son to war alone? Also, Puru has to be become king first, he can't just be Prince Puru and fight Alexander, can he? What about ousting Kanishk?

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Posted: 7 years ago

#19

Alexander's character got ruined when they showed him as a child killer. He always knew to differenciate between good and bad. He knew how to use his brains. But I guess Philip's betrayal completely changed him into a monster. 🤢

It's unbelievable to think that he needs Taxila's help to get to Porus.

Edited by MuguetDScorpion - 7 years ago

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Posted: 7 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion
Alexander's character got ruined when they showed him as a child killer. He always knew to differenciate between good and bad. He knew how to use his brains. But I guess Philip's betrayal completely changed him into a monster.🤢

It's unbelievable to think that he needs Taxila's help to get to Porus.

To be very honest, I wasn't surprised to see those disturbing and cruel scenes for Alexander as it was already made obvious to me by the 1st the promos that the scheme of the makers of Porus is to try to draw a very drastic line between GOOD vs EVIL opposing Porus, the Mahan one against the ruthless and agressive, Alexander. Can you recall the "curse on the West part of the promo ? This was how the voiceover qualified Alexander's birth and introduced him 1st to viewers. This one really had me boiling but I settled down to watch how the actor's gonna embody Alexander's role. And so far, he has portrayed Alexander with such zeal and grace. He's definitely the most convincing version of Alexander the Great 😃

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