Porus 122: Puru in full flow in Faras

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Folks,

What I don't understand, after lasting thru all 30 minutes of tonight's episode is: after rescuing all the three Persian royal ladies, how are our Five Musketeers going to get them out of Persia? Probably on Vishuddi's special transport system. In any case I never understood how they got there in the first place!😆

But then Porus is often like a fantasy tale, not a supposed historical. For one thing, the lens setting off a fire was unbelievable then and is equally unbelievable now, with CGI flames leaping to high heaven, and one could not even spot the sun! The CVs rate the IQ of their viewers at about 80, methinks.😡

Expect a duel between Alexander, now officially designated as a bhediya, or wolf (not, be it noted, a tiger or a lion, but I suppose Alexander should be grateful that it was not siyaar, or jackal!), and Puru, which Puru will of course win, as he is ajeya, aur koyi kaam adhura nahin chhodta.

If he seems by now to have totally forgotten what he came to Faras for in the first place, why that is Puru all over. He is exactly like an unguided missile, going off at unexpected tangents!😉

To revert, he will then cart Barsine et al to Paurava Rashtra, and history be damned!😉 Unless of course Queen Stateira's better sense prevails, and she jibs and refuses to go along.

Alexander is already suspicious about Barsine, after seeing her face blossoming like a sunflower in the sun as soon as she understands how the conflagration occurred. Normally, I would have expected him to have Barsine watched, since she has obviously received outside encouragement, and catch her knight errant when he appears and tries to spirit her away. Which would be why he does not insist on the royal ladies attending the jashn.

But as apna Puru has to always come out on top, I expect they will not show Alexander following up on his initial suspicion.

In the middle of all this, Vishuddi will try to stop Alexander by clawing him, will get a reverse attack of poison and will die, of course in Puru's arms.😉

Finally, I fail to understand why Alexander is to be clobbered for offering the Persians security and prosperity in return for loyalty. Given that all kings, from those days to the 19th century and beyond, always sought to expand their empires - what was the Ashwamedha Yagna all about anyway but an assertion of domination? If you submitted, you survived, if not, you were destroyed - this seems to me to be a very good deal.

In fact Alexander was quite genuine about his plans to merge the Macedonian and the Persian cultures and peoples, and today he sounded almost like a politician on the campaign trail.😉

And after all, Darius had got to the throne not by right of birth, with a lineage going back a thousand years, but by having his predecessor poisoned, and that too only a few years ago. What is the big deal if he was now kicked out?

To revert, Alexander is amazingly soft with the Persians and is openly courting them. They must have had it much worse during the wars of succession after Alexander's death.

The real bhediye, the Mongols, would have slaughtered all the men and flattened all the cities. As would the Huns under Attila. We in India have to be grateful to Skandagupta, who fought off the Huns in the 5th century AD, and Alauddin Khilji who, in the 14th century , fought the Mongols to a standstill in 6 battles.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Puru in his over confidence is under estimating alex, i m sure alex 2 had planned some surprise.
Alex won faras on fair grounds on his ability not by poising anyone if Darius ran away it is not alex fault

I hope alex 2 teach a lesson 2 puru so that he dont mess with him before india invasion

Chalo puru will rescue barsine & company where is he planning 2 take them bharat, will bharat accept Darius's family

I hope queen stateira put some sense in puru's nonsense head
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I have revised it, Deepika, and added some more plot predictions. Take another look at it.
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What I didn't like yesterday was Puru's mental-block regarding Alexander. Alex was trying to prove a point, that he's here to rule, not to cause destruction. And yet the desi hero feels he's yapping to cover up for the mayhem he caused. Moreover, Barsine doesn't seem to be trouble, not even a bit. Yet he's keen on rescuing her, just because he had set out his foot for that.
How many times do we do that in life as well? Just impose our understanding on the situation rather than developing a logic based on circumstances.

That magnifying glass theory can never impress me. Being a science student, I know I couldn't even burn a paper using such a small magnifying glass, let alone cloth. You would need such a large magnifying glass, as big as a room or a glass with its magnifying strength close to infinity 😆

Lo. I'm expecting logic here. My bad!😆

Seeing Alexander's part is also becoming increasingly intolerable given Puru's not so heroic interference.🤢
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Puru is 2 childish in compare 2 alexander. Puru has 2 understand d diff b/w alexander & Darius. Darius was wolf but alexender is lion
We say ek akalmand insaan apne aap ko chorke puri duniya ko bewkoof samjhta hai same goes 4 puru, he is underestimating alexander .

Amoung d five i feel one will surely die , i guess it will vissudhi coz she dont have much imp role ,

Alexander definately had some plan up on his mind which he is not showing yet.
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My dear Mahi,

Good to see you here!

I agree completely with your take on Puru, and I did not go into it last night only because (a) it was obvious to those with an objective mind, (b) I wanted to keep this one short and post it before I fell asleep!😆 But I am happy that you have set it out in black and white.

Puru is constitutionally incapable of standing aside and assessing a situation. He has enough mental blocks to build the Great Wall of China.😡

He cannot imagine that Alexander might not have known about the killings of civilians, nor can he wonder at a conqueror offering the conquered such ultra soft terms.

It was the same with Bamni, when he accused him, with a total lack of logic, of being the cause of Ripudaman's death, and then asked him why, during all the 21 years, he had not searched for Anasuya, forgetting that Bamni thought she was dead! The problem is that there is no one to pull Puru up and set him straight. Laachi made some attempts on those lines, when he thought Bamni had murdered Anasuya - it never occured to Puru to wonder why Bamni would wait so long to kill a woman who was supposed to be his prisoner- but now she too has become a cheerleader.

It does not occur to him to investigate how Alexander won at Issus, which is what he is supposedly there for, to understand his rananeeti. Nor to try and ascertain the strength of his army. Instead, he is now off on a quixotic mission to save a damsel who does not need any saving at all.

I also wonder at Barsine. She is super mahfoos now, and still she looks at Puru with gooey eyes, as if she needed to be rescued from imminent death. And how does she think he is going to get her out of Faras?

Being also a physics student, I wrote off that magnifying glass stunt the first time itself. This is what I mean by saying that Porus is part fantasy, only that is not confessed!

Well, I shall stop here. It is a good thing I have low BP. If Puru is allowed to hoodwink Alexander tonight, I shall need all my low BP reserves!😉😉

One question: What exactly did you mean by your last sentence?

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: ..AjabdeBaisa..

What I didn't like yesterday was Puru's mental-block regarding Alexander. Alex was trying to prove a point, that he's here to rule, not to cause destruction. And yet the desi hero feels he's yapping to cover up for the mayhem he caused. Moreover, Barsine doesn't seem to be trouble, not even a bit. Yet he's keen on rescuing her, just because he had set out his foot for that.

How many times do we do that in life as well? Just impose our understanding on the situation rather than developing a logic based on circumstances.

That magnifying glass theory can never impress me. Being a science student, I know I couldn't even burn a paper using such a small magnifying glass, let alone cloth. You would need such a large magnifying glass, as big as a room or a glass with its magnifying strength close to infinity 😆

Lo. I'm expecting logic here. My bad!😆

Seeing Alexander's part is also becoming increasingly intolerable given Puru's not so heroic interference.🤢

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Folks,

What I don't understand, after lasting thru all 30 minutes of tonight's episode is: after rescuing all the three Persian royal ladies, how are our Five Musketeers going to get them out of Persia? Probably on Vishuddi's special transport system. In any case I never understood how they got there in the first place!😆

But then Porus is often like a fantasy tale, not a supposed historical. For one thing, the lens setting off a fire was unbelievable then and is equally unbelievable now, with CGI flames leaping to high heaven, and one could not even spot the sun! The CVs rate the IQ of their viewers at about 80, methinks.😡

Expect a duel between Alexander, now officially designated as a bhediya, or wolf (not, be it noted, a tiger or a lion, but I suppose Alexander should be grateful that it was not siyaar, or jackal!), and Puru, which Puru will of course win, as he is ajeya, aur koyi kaam adhura nahin chhodta.

Alexander is the real faulad ki aulad, not a bhediya.

If Puru does finish his job in Persia, then the story can end right here! I guess he is looking for the film trailer.

If he seems by now to have totally forgotten what he came to Faras for in the first place, why that is Puru all over. He is exactly like an unguided missile, going off at unexpected tangents!😉

To revert, he will then cart Barsine et al to Paurava Rashtra, and history be damned!😉 Unless of course Queen Stateira's better sense prevails, and she jibs and refuses to go along.

Alexander is already suspicious about Barsine, after seeing her face blossoming like a sunflower in the sun as soon as she understands how the conflagration occurred. Normally, I would have expected him to have Barsine watched, since she has obviously received outside encouragement, and catch her knight errant when he appears and tries to spirit her away. Which would be why he does not insist on the royal ladies attending the jashn.

But as apna Puru has to always come out on top, I expect they will not show Alexander following up on his initial suspicion.

I would be very disappointed if this happens and he doesn't act on his suspicions. Alexander does not seem to be the type to let such things slide easily, especially since the fire started when he was trying to make a good impression in his first speech to the people. 😕

In the middle of all this, Vishuddi will try to stop Alexander by clawing him, will get a reverse attack of poison and will die, of course in Puru's arms.😉

This would be so amazing! Knowing the makers, though, I wouldn't be suprised if she transferred her affections from Puru to Alexander: "Mujhse bhi koi zehereela? Isse to sirf jang mein hi nahin, naagin style mein bhi koi nahin hara sakta!"

Finally, I fail to understand why Alexander is to be clobbered for offering the Persians security and prosperity in return for loyalty. Given that all kings, from those days to the 19th century and beyond, always sought to expand their empires - what was the Ashwamedha Yagna all about anyway but an assertion of domination? If you submitted, you survived, if not, you were destroyed - this seems to me to be a very good deal.

In fact Alexander was quite genuine about his plans to merge the Macedonian and the Persian cultures and peoples, and today he sounded almost like a politician on the campaign trail.😉

Who is his Persian costume designer, I wonder?

And after all, Darius had got to the throne not by right of birth, with a lineage going back a thousand years, but by having his predecessor poisoned, and that too only a few years ago. What is the big deal if he was now kicked out?

To revert, Alexander is amazingly soft with the Persians and is openly courting them. They must have had it much worse during the wars of succession after Alexander's death.

And I am loving this. I can't wait to see his romance!

The real bhediye, the Mongols, would have slaughtered all the men and flattened all the cities. As would the Huns under Attila. We in India have to be grateful to Skandagupta, who fought off the Huns in the 5th century AD, and Alauddin Khilji who, in the 14th century , fought the Mongols to a standstill in 6 battles.

Again, his reputation precedes him so there were bound to be misconceptions that he needs to work to clear up. I talked a bit about his name and fame in my response to your post on Ep 120 and why he is so obsessed with it.

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Edited by inlieu - 7 years ago
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My dear Deepika,

Darius was not a wolf but a siyaar, a jackal. But one cannot expect Puru to realise the difference between him and Alexander. Why, even Darius trapped Puru once, and could have done so again.

As Mahi has noted, Puru is full of mental blocks. I don't want to repeat what I wrote to her above, but do look at that post, would you? It does not even occur to Puru to try and find out how Alexander won over a much bigger army at Issus, though this is supposedly what he came to Faras to do. I am tired to cataloguing his failings, so I shall stop.

I too think, as I have said in the post, that Alexander, already suspicious of Barsine and about the cause of the fire, would have thought of something to trap the intruder who is out to help Barsine. But I am not at all sure of the CVs and their obsession with making Puru look like a sarvakalavallavan, someone who can do everything and achieve everything. So they might well make Alexander look like a fool and have Puru run rings round him.

But I don't think they can show him succeeding in making off with Barsine, for that would be too ahistoric even for them. Let us see.

Either way, as I wrote, Vishuddhi wil die. She is the fifth wheel, and she has to go. I only wonder how, without her flying carpet 😃, the rest will make it back to Paurav Rashtra.

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Puru is 2 childish in compare 2 alexander. Puru has 2 understand d diff b/w alexander & Darius. Darius was wolf but alexender is lion

We say ek akalmand insaan apne aap ko chorke puri duniya ko bewkoof samjhta hai same goes 4 puru, he is underestimating alexander .

Amoung d five i feel one will surely die , i guess it will vissudhi coz she dont have much imp role ,

Alexander definately had some plan up on his mind which he is not showing yet.

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Puru's biggest problem right now is that he is impulsive.He acts before thinking and after the act is done he doesn't learn from his mistakes.He is streetsmart and knows how to deal with certain circumstances.
But he lacks the diligence and the tactfulness which is required from a future king and leader.

In Bamni's case I did support Puru coz Puru wasn't wrong there.Bamni foolishly believed Shivdutt that Anusuya would commit suicide with the kid when apparently she had 'betrayed' him for her bro Ambhiraaj and Takshashila.Had Bamni not been so dumb and put two and two together then he would have realised that there is more to Shivdutt's version of events.
Neither did Bamni try to locate Ripudaman's family.
Therefore Puru's accusations on Bamni were totally logical and Puru was right over there.

In Alexander's case it's a different person altogether and the circumstances are different too.
Bamni was totally oblivious for 21 years when it came to his own citizens being ill treated by Darius and the Farsis despite being the king.
But Alexander stopped his own men from harming the Farsis and also spoke about them being his own people.Unlike Bamni from before,Alexander has his eyes and ears open 24/7.He can be unaware for a brief while but he never remains oblivious nor negligent.

But Puru has to realise that how Alexander treats his Farsi turned Macedonian subjects or how he treats Barsine is none of his business.He is there to estimate Alexander's strength and strategies and return to Bharat ASAP to prepare for the impending war.Yes Alexander might be playing some political trick.We all know he is doing that.But Puru has nothing to do with it.

What is the use of saving Barsine?Has Alexander locked her up in some dungeon??🤪
Instead he has kept her and her family in a luxury suite.Unlike any other conquering ruler he is actually nice to them.
Alexander himself admitted that Darius made a mistake by bringing his family to the war.He knows that they are his hostages but he is not treating them like a hostage or a captive is treated.

And Barsine honey!! Your coward Abbujaan was the one who deserted you.😛
Even if Puru gets you out of that place you cannot have an endgame with him coz he will always love Laachi.
Had I been in your place I would have directed my energies towards the handsome and chivalrous Macedonian instead😉

Either way the story is really lame now.I guess more nayan mattaka between PorAnder is on the way🤪

All I wanted was RuChi and AlexAna but we got Puru-Vishkanya,Puru-Barsine's one sided affair,Ambhikumar having a crush on Laachi,Hasti's crush on Barsine etcAbove all the biggest bin maanga tohfa PorAnder👏
RuChi are entirely sidelined coz Puru is after Alex now and Roxy is in Bactria and Puru won't let Alex reach there so soon so AlexAna ke aasaar bhi kam nazar aarahe hain


P.S.I was disappointed when they compared Alexxy to a wolf
I would have loved it if Alex was compared to a Babbar Sher aka Lion and Puru to a Sher aka Tiger
Edited by --BlackSheep-- - 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Mahi,

Good to see you here!

😃

I agree completely with your take on Puru, and I did not go into it last night only because (a) it was obvious to those with an objective mind, (b) I wanted to keep this one short and post it before I fell asleep!😆 But I am happy that you have set it out in black and white.

Couldn't control myself from writing down my frustration here😆

Puru is constitutionally incapable of standing aside and assessing a situation. He has enough mental blocks to build the Great Wall of China.😡

True 🤢

He cannot imagine that Alexander might not have known about the killings of civilians, nor can he wonder at a conqueror offering the conquered such ultra soft terms.

It was the same with Bamni, when he accused him, with a total lack of logic, of being the cause of Ripudaman's death, and then asked him why, during all the 21 years, he had not searched for Anasuya, forgetting that Bamni thought she was dead! The problem is that there is no one to pull Puru up and set him straight. Laachi made some attempts on those lines, when he thought Bamni had murdered Anasuya - it never occured to Puru to wonder why Bamni would wait so long to kill a woman who was supposed to be his prisoner- but now she too has become a cheerleader.

The Indian aspect of the show needs a logical check. The plot has been totally beyond me since forever! Even now, Bamni won't wonder how the civilians knew about the shipwreck and Shivdutt will get away with his trick. He's right, soochna carries a lot of strength, specially when blind fools like Bamini are readily available to trust them.

It does not occur to him to investigate how Alexander won at Issus, which is what he is supposedly there for, to understand his rananeeti. Nor to try and ascertain the strength of his army. Instead, he is now off on a quixotic mission to save a damsel who does not need any saving at all.

Exactly, heroism first. Duty later. He has to necessarily show off his smartness everywhere. Now where was the need to do that? Just to hint Barsine I suppose. Laachi was the one to point out that Alex might've felt their presence too and she's right. He caught Barsine smiling right away!
Anyone noticed his chivalry with the ladies off late? He seems to really like Barsine but still has it unexpressed subtly.⭐️

I also wonder at Barsine. She is super mahfoos now, and still she looks at Puru with gooey eyes, as if she needed to be rescued from imminent death. And how does she think he is going to get her out of Faras?

Puru koi kaaam adhoora nahi chodta. This philosophy can make him go in and out of any situation!😆

Being also a physics student, I wrote off that magnifying glass stunt the first time itself. This is what I mean by saying that Porus is part fantasy, only that is not confessed!

Yeah, I read it and laughed at the CVs idiocracy to get away with that 😆

Well, I shall stop here. It is a good thing I have low BP. If Puru is allowed to hoodwink Alexander tonight, I shall need all my low BP reserves!😉😉

One question: What exactly did you mean by your last sentence?

I meant I'm unable to enjoy Alex's scenes due to Puru's interference in his scenes. Yesterday I couldn't concentrate on his victory speech because they jutted in his face every one minute 😆

Shyamala Aunty

Edited by ..AjabdeBaisa.. - 7 years ago

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