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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: --BlackSheep--



All I wanted was RuChi and AlexAna but we got Puru-Vishkanya,Puru-Barsine's one sided affair,Ambhikumar having a crush on Laachi,Hasti's crush on Barsine etcAbove all the biggest bin maanga tohfa PorAnder👏

EXACTLY!!!
Ruchi were totally wasted with all the unwanted romance! And everything but Ruchi & Alexana 🤢

RuChi are entirely sidelined coz Puru is after Alex now and Roxy is in Bactria and Puru won't let Alex reach there so soon so AlexAna ke aasaar bhi kam nazar aarahe hain


P.S.I was disappointed when they compared Alexxy to a wolf
I would have loved it if Alex was compared to a Babbar Sher aka Lion and Puru to a Sher aka Tiger

Alex is a Sava Sher while Puru is a baby tiger as of now 😆

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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Mahi,I concur.Alex does seem to have a soft corner for Barsine😉There is something which I observed during their brief interaction in the tent
Barsine was the only one whose name he personally asked 😉
But he already knew Stateira and Drypteis' names.Dunno if this is supposed to mean something.
And I love the way he looks at her


Sigh!! I miss my RuChi of the good old daysKya haal kardiya inn wahiyat CVs ne.
RuChi had so much potential man.Now I am sure they will show the marriage in a hurry and rush to all the Shivdutt-Kanishk nonsense again.


Totally agree with you about the Sava Sher and Baby Tiger part😆Puru is a cute cub.But he needs to grow up ASAP.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: --BlackSheep--

@Mahi,I concur.Alex does seem to have a soft corner for Barsine😉There is something which I observed during their brief interaction in the tent

Barsine was the only one whose name he personally asked 😉
But he already knew Stateira and Drypteis' names.Dunno if this is supposed to mean something.
And I love the way he looks at her


Sigh!! I miss my RuChi of the good old daysKya haal kardiya inn wahiyat CVs ne.
RuChi had so much potential man.Now I am sure they will show the marriage in a hurry and rush to all the Shivdutt-Kanishk nonsense again.


Totally agree with you about the Sava Sher and Baby Tiger part😆Puru is a cute cub.But he needs to grow up ASAP.


@bold totally! These two might just have the crackling chemistry we've all been wanting to see!. Alexander notices every minute thing. 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Copying my post here as it seems to fit better.

Not in my name!

Firstly, I don't know if I should rejoice but at least Alexander is getting more screen time if only because of the 4.5 musketeers. I only wish it were uninterrupted screen time.

Rohit did another magnificent Alexander walk, still with that awful arrow in his leg. He bellowed and cajoled with no hint of pain on his face and then climbed on and off the chariot. Nerves of steel (or Adamantium). As the 3 ladies climbed their chariot, I couldn't help but imagine how Olympias would have felt if she had seen her son achieve all this - would've been bursting with pride, for sure.

I loved his address to the people and how genuine his concern sounded. Of course, he made an elaborate show of protecting the royal ladies but it all came from a place of honesty and respect in his heart. Hephaestion again is suprised by this new side to Alexander - I would really love to see an argument between them in the near future due to philosophical differences, and how they manage to stay strong despite that.

Again, the importance of Alexander's name is brought up. His soldiers and aides are not allowed to wreak havoc or harm anyone in his name! He makes that very clear and magnanimously shows his remorse for the tragic deaths of Persians in the bazaar. Any misstep would reflect badly on him as a Shah of the people and he really does want the Persians to prosper. I can't say for sure if the celebrations were pre-planned - I felt it was his damage control strategy so that his new subjects could see him as more of a "one of us" kind of person, than an outsider or brute. Isn't it ironic that to remain a "god", he feels the need to humanize himself and seem accessible to his people?

I really hope the musketeers are unable to rescue and escape with Barsine and Co. because I don't know if I can stomach such a major distortion of historical events. Also, what is the point of being Alexander if he can't anticipate such attacks and make preparations for it? He reads people very well and did not miss the look of relief and anticipation on Barsine's face, a fact which thankfully did not escape Laachi either, smart girl! He wanted to find out what the secret was and I find it hard to believe he won't have something up his sleeve (pun intended).

Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I think it struck Alexander that Barsine's smile was not a result of his efforts to win their trust with his gesture of peace and friendship. Rohit is so good at micro-expressions that I always look for these nuances in his acting. While he's been successful at rallying his troops in battle with his vigor and splendid speeches, he hasn't fared as well in terms of "simpler communication in the aftermath of the battle. I think it bothered him when the ladies looked afraid despite his gentlemanly reassurances.

I wonder if we're going to see some chemistry between Barsine and Alexander, because something tells me there will be sparks flying if that happens. Despite the shock of seeing Alexander in their tent, Barsine looked almost starstruck as she stammered when saying her name in the other episode and even now, she appears to be more in awe of him than afraid. Alexander is definitely intrigued by Barsine and observes her very closely - perhaps not enough to be too upset by her reluctance to trust him at this stage but she has him slightly rattled, for sure.

If the makers want to show a typical crude solution to prevent this escape, they might include a fight scene, deception, or other confrontation. If they want to keep it fresh and intriguing though, I really hope they show him use his brain to play some sort of (harmless) mind game that would end with the Persian royal ladies themselves choosing to say with him instead of escaping. What would Stateira, in particular, do exiling herself to India at this stage of her life?

I appreciate Puru's sentiments and his genuine efforts to answer Barsine's call for help, but things have changed a lot since then and how! Ideally, the royal ladies tell him they feel safe and would like to remain under Alexander's protection, thus giving Puru peace of mind to go back home and protect his position. I am not sure he'll easily change his opinion on Alexander faking concern for his people after conquering them. Something tells me though that we'll have a few long-draw episodes where the musketeers will sneak in and out of the palace and not really spend enough time learning more about Alexander's tactics.

For those of you complaining about the Dasyu outfits, guess you are in for a treat as Puru and Laachi transform into Aladdin and Jasmine. I am not sure what to make of Alexander (Rohit) in glittery pink Persian clothing, especially with the blonde hair, but have full faith in Rohit's acting prowess. Looking forward to the next episode!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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If indeed there is an Alexander-Barsine romance, boy is the lady in for a treat! She will finally see how women are actually supposed to be treated as I am sure Alexander will give her a lot of love and respect. Hopefully he shows her what real love and passion is.

I'd better stop before I get my hopes up. I am just afraid that in the 20% screen time we might not get this amount of detail about Alexander's romantic life. Having said that, Barsine has previously had a lot of screen time so if we add 2 and 2 together, maybe they'll get some of the 30% screen time as a couple?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Ayesha,

My comments are in blue.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: --BlackSheep--

Puru's biggest problem right now is that he is impulsive.He acts before thinking and after the act is done he doesn't learn from his mistakes.He is streetsmart and knows how to deal with certain circumstances.

But he lacks the diligence and the tactfulness which is required from a future king and leader.

It is not just that he is impulsive, it is also that he is too sure of himself and of his assessments of others. So, his impulses lead him down the wrong street, and he bulldozes ahead though it is a cul de sac.

He is in his way even more self-satisfied and arrogant than Alexander .And he has no one, after Ripudaman's passing, to read him the riot act and straighten him out. I used to like him a lot in the beginning. Now he simply gets on my nerves, and I feel sorry for Laksh, stuck with such a character.

In Bamni's case I did support Puru coz Puru wasn't wrong there.Bamni foolishly believed Shivdutt that Anusuya would commit suicide with the kid when apparently she had 'betrayed' him for her bro Ambhiraaj and Takshashila.Had Bamni not been so dumb and put two and two together then he would have realised that there is more to Shivdutt's version of events.
Neither did Bamni try to locate Ripudaman's family.
Therefore Puru's accusations on Bamni were totally logical and Puru was right over there.

You have misunderstood what I had argued.

Yes, Bamni should have asked to see Ripudaman's body, to pay his last respects, and to meet Ripudaman's supposed widow, to condole with her. Shivdutt would then have said that the body was badly mangled and they had had to cremate the it pronto, and that his wife was so distraught that she had gone back to her people in some distant village. Moreover, Bamni must at first have been very woozy from the aftereffects of the poison. Even if he had smelt a rat, how could he have located Ripudaman? No one knows where the Dasyu Lok is.

Bamni believes, with reason, that Anasuya has deliberately led him into a trap to kill him. No one would think otherwise after what happened. The suicide with the kid part is very fishy, but the fact is that she is nowhere to be found nor the kid, and his trust in his elder brother is total.

But this is not what I was referring to . I was referring to Puru blaming Bamni for Ripudaman's death. Not for his having had to spend 21 years in exile in Dasyu Lok.

How is Bamni responsible for Ripudaman's death now? If Ripudaman had brought Puru to Bamni much earlier, there would have been no problem for anyone. In fact, I never understood WHAT he was waiting for as regards restoring Puru to his family. And why keep the boy in the dark for so long? To what end? It is only because of this meaningless procrastination that he creates this mess for all concerned. And gets killed by Darius because of the timing. This has nothing to do with Bamni, and Puru accusing Bamni of being the cause of his Baba's death is illogical and wrong.

In Alexander's case it's a different person altogether and the circumstances are different too.
Bamni was totally oblivious for 21 years when it came to his own citizens being ill treated by Darius and the Farsis despite being the king.

Bamni is no king except in name. He is a prime slacker . Probably all his energies are used up in climbing up to that throne of his. Plus he had this unfortunate trait of always trusting the wrong person. Bhai to bhai, par Darius bhi??😡😡

But Alexander stopped his own men from harming the Farsis and also spoke about them being his own people.Unlike Bamni from before,Alexander has his eyes and ears open 24/7.He can be unaware for a brief while but he never remains oblivious nor negligent.

But Puru has to realise that how Alexander treats his Farsi turned Macedonian subjects or how he treats Barsine is none of his business.He is there to estimate Alexander's strength and strategies and return to Bharat ASAP to prepare for the impending war.Yes Alexander might be playing some political trick.We all know he is doing that.But Puru has nothing to do with it.

Now this is distilled wisdom, but catch Puru absorbing any of it! He has the unfailing habit of butting into what does not concern him, and what is worse, neglecting what IS his business.

What is the use of saving Barsine?Has Alexander locked her up in some dungeon??🤪
Instead he has kept her and her family in a luxury suite.Unlike any other conquering ruler he is actually nice to them.

Alexander himself admitted that Darius made a mistake by bringing his family to the war.He knows that they are his hostages but he is not treating them like a hostage or a captive is treated.

Yes, but as Puru believes, like the junior High Priestess of Delphi, that Alexander is a darinda, it follows, for him, that his current niceness to Barsine is a mask for his real, cruel intentions, that would soon surface. Probably he thinks he will hang Barsine up in chains and have her flogged! So he has to save her pronto from these anticipated horrors.

And Barsine honey!! Your coward Abbujaan was the one who deserted you.😛
Even if Puru gets you out of that place you cannot have an endgame with him coz he will always love Laachi.
Had I been in your place I would have directed my energies towards the handsome and chivalrous Macedonian instead😉

Alas,you are not in her place! And Barsine, on whom the handsome and chivalrous Macedonian is sadly wasted. continues to look like an underdone suet pudding, sans any expression, except for that gooey eyed look when she spots Puru in the precap.😉

Either way the story is really lame now.I guess more nayan mattaka between PorAnder is on the way🤪

All I wanted was RuChi and AlexAna but we got Puru-Vishkanya,Puru-Barsine's one sided affair,Ambhikumar having a crush on Laachi,Hasti's crush on Barsine etcAbove all the biggest bin maanga tohfa PorAnder👏
RuChi are entirely sidelined coz Puru is after Alex now and Roxy is in Bactria and Puru won't let Alex reach there so soon so AlexAna ke aasaar bhi kam nazar aarahe hain

I do empathise with you, that is to say after I had made out what RuChi was.😉

Now that Sisygambis has been axed, I begin to wonder if Roxana will go the same way. Please don't get upset with me, but this Roxana seems to be a flexible quantity. In the 1956 Richard Burton Alexander the Great, she was Darius's daughter !!

They cannot have two love stories for Alexander, there is barely enough time for one seeing the paucity of screen time he gets, and I have an idea now that it will be Barsine. She has to marry Alexander at some point, in one of the punctilious nods to history in the script, and so they must be saying to themselves, why not now?😆 I only wish poor Alexander had a more expressive lady love.He will have to produce enough chemistry for both of them.😉
P.S.I was disappointed when they compared Alexxy to a wolf
I would have loved it if Alex was compared to a Babbar Sher aka Lion and Puru to a Sher aka Tiger

This is perfect, except that Puru is like a tiger cub that is not yet sure on its feet, not a full grown tiger. And there is no mamma tigress to teach him things and correct him when he goofs up.

As for the wolf, seeing the general and consistent attitude of the CVs to Alexander's character, I am only surprised that they did not choose siyaar, or jackal, instead of bhediya.😡

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Posted: 7 years ago
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OK, so I shall copy my very long comments on the post too. Most folk here are going to faint by the time they have got to the end of my effusions. By now you would have grasped that I loved your post!😉

Shyamala Aunty.

Posted: 16 May 2018 at 5:06am | IP Logged
First of all, my dear Anamika (!) , what a wonderful title! Superb.👏

I found this all by myself in the morning and read it before I read your comment on my thread, so I shall post my take on this first.

As for your incredibly appealing analysis of Alexander's psyche on my last Episode 120 thread, that needs more time. I have already read it twice, and shall do so once more before I say anything about it. In fact I am a tad apprehensive because it so self-contained and perfect that anything I might say might spoil it. It was a rare treat. As are you, come to think of it!

My comments are in blue.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by inlieu

Firstly, I don't know if I should rejoice but at least Alexander is getting more screen time if only because of the 4.5 musketeers. I only wish it were uninterrupted screen time.

I HATED it, upper case intentional. They had to have this Harsha Bhogle style commentary on everything Alexander says and does, by this uppity brat, who thinks he is the cat's whiskers, and is confirmed in this opinion of himself by his cheerleaders group. But I have edited Puru's interjections out of my recording for rewatching, so I can listen to Alexander in peace!

Rohit did another magnificent Alexander walk, still with that awful arrow in his leg. He bellowed and cajoled with no hint of pain on his face and then climbed on and off the chariot. Nerves of steel (or Adamantium). As the 3 ladies climbed their chariot, I couldn't help but imagine how Olympias would have felt if she had seen her son achieve all this - would've been bursting with pride, for sure.

See, I was initially puzzled as to why he left the arrow there, for with each step, it would have cut further into his knee, which must have been sheer agony. Then I realised that just as he straightened his walk regardless of the pain so as not to limp in front of his men and the Persians, now he keeps the arrow there to show everyone around that the son of Zeus can take even such pain without flinching. It is a purely macho thing, to impress the crowd, but I was surprised that Hephaestion did not protest and insist on Alexander having that wound attended to. As for c***eus, I think they have changed the actor. The one who ordered the massacre must have been c***eus, but he was not the former actor.

I loved his address to the people and how genuine his concern sounded. Of course, he made an elaborate show of protecting the royal ladies but it all came from a place of honesty and respect in his heart. Hephaestion again is suprised by this new side to Alexander - I would really love to see an argument between them in the near future due to philosophical differences, and how they manage to stay strong despite that.

Yes, it fitted in neatly into Alexander's political strategy and tactics, but that does not mean that in what he said, he was not genuine.He meant every word.
Hephaestion is the only one who dares to raise an objection to the Persians being considered neo-Macedonians. Even at Thebes, whereas c***eus asks why the people are being summoned and is snubbed by Alexander, Hephaestion questions the reason for the massacre and Alexander gives him an answer without getting angry. Hephaestion's position is unique, and I am sure he will question this softness towards the Persians as well, in due course.

Again, the importance of Alexander's name is brought up. His soldiers and aides are not allowed to wreak havoc or harm anyone in his name! He makes that very clear and magnanimously shows his remorse for the tragic deaths of Persians in the bazaar. Any misstep would reflect badly on him as a Shah of the people and he really does want the Persians to prosper. I can't say for sure if the celebrations were pre-planned - I felt it was his damage control strategy so that his new subjects could see him as more of a "one of us" kind of person, than an outsider or brute. Isn't it ironic that to remain a "god", he feels the need to humanize himself and seem accessible to his people?

This is a very intriguing point that had not occurred to me at all.

It is true, that tremendous importance attached by Alexander to what is done in his name. But he uses it in the opposite sense as well, for a kind of khauff-e-Alexander, to make his opponents quake in terror at the very sound of his name and cave it without a fight. Now, he finds that the same khauff-e-Alexander, so effective in war, is counter-productive in peace, as everyone, from the royal ladies to the awaam is terrified of him., and he has to work double hard to dispel their fears and earn their trust,

I really hope the musketeers are unable to rescue and escape with Barsine and Co. because I don't know if I can stomach such a major distortion of historical events. Also, what is the point of being Alexander if he can't anticipate such attacks and make preparations for it? He reads people very well and did not miss the look of relief and anticipation on Barsine's face, a fact which thankfully did not escape Laachi either, smart girl! He wanted to find out what the secret was and I find it hard to believe he won't have something up his sleeve (pun intended).

I hope so too, and am keeping my fingers so tightly crossed that I could win a pretzel contest!😉 Of course Alexander would have smelt a rat, both because of Barsine's sudden cheering up and because he does not trust Hephaestion's facile explanation of an accident leading to the fire.

But the question is not that. It is rather whether the CVs will allow Puru, their boy wonder, to be outsmarted by Alexander. I disliked the way in which Alexander, one of the greatest warriors of all time, was called a wolf, for what Puru says is what the CVs think. There has also been a persistent campaign to paint him as a bloodthirsty monster, kroor, nirmam. paschim par kalank, now bhediya, and so on and on. So they might well make him come a cropper while our hero cocks a snook at him, though I don't think they will show Barsine going back to Paurav Rashtra with Puru. If this happens, it will be a very great pity.

Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I think it struck Alexander that Barsine's smile was not a result of his efforts to win their trust with his gesture of peace and friendship. Rohit is so good at micro-expressions that I always look for these nuances in his acting. While he's been successful at rallying his troops in battle with his vigor and splendid speeches, he hasn't fared as well in terms of "simpler communication in the aftermath of the battle. I think it bothered him when the ladies looked afraid despite his gentlemanly reassurances.

Yes, of course he understood that. And this is the downside of the success of the khauff-e-Alexander!

I wonder if we're going to see some chemistry between Barsine and Alexander, because something tells me there will be sparks flying if that happens. Despite the shock of seeing Alexander in their tent, Barsine looked almost starstruck as she stammered when saying her name in the other episode and even now, she appears to be more in awe of him than afraid. Alexander is definitely intrigued by Barsine and observes her very closely - perhaps not enough to be too upset by her reluctance to trust him at this stage but she has him slightly rattled, for sure.

I do not see much chemistry from Barsine's side, for she is mostly uni-expression, and sans nuance, like a pudding😉. But I expect Rohit, though I have not yet seen him in a romantic role, can produce enough chemistry for both of them😉. At this stage, as he has had very little experience of women, Alexander is not sure how to handle and how to erase their fear of him. Whence the air of uncertainty., and at times of slight irritation, as when he leads them to the chariots.

But things are bound to change between them. I am almost sure that the CVs will get them married very soon, well before Roxana appears, if at all she does appear. She may well be axed, like Sisygambis!😭 If Alexander had had a Chanakya, he would have rammed this marriage thru pronto, just as he made Chandragupta marry Dhananand's daughter Dharini in order to win over the Nandvansh loyalists.It is standard operating procedure in such circumstances!😉

If the makers want to show a typical crude solution to prevent this escape, they might include a fight scene, deception, or other confrontation. If they want to keep it fresh and intriguing though, I really hope they show him use his brain to play some sort of (harmless) mind game that would end with the Persian royal ladies themselves choosing to say with him instead of escaping. What would Stateira, in particular, do exiling herself to India at this stage of her life?

Fresh and intriguing? These folks? You have got some hope!

I appreciate Puru's sentiments and his genuine efforts to answer Barsine's call for help, but things have changed a lot since then and how! Ideally, the royal ladies tell him they feel safe and would like to remain under Alexander's protection, thus giving Puru peace of mind to go back home and protect his position. I am not sure he'll easily change his opinion on Alexander faking concern for his people after conquering them. Something tells me though that we'll have a few long-draw episodes where the musketeers will sneak in and out of the palace and not really spend enough time learning more about Alexander's tactics.

This would have been the best solution, but I doubt if it will be the CVs' choice. We will have, as you have predicted, a cat and mouse game in physical terms, with a lot of repetitive derring do from Puru's side.

As for learning about Alexander's tactics, that seems to be the last thing on Purus' mind at the moment, and then again, it is a closed mind that cannot absorb anything that does not meet his preset ideas.

For those of you complaining about the Dasyu outfits, guess you are in for a treat as Puru and Laachi transform into Aladdin and Jasmine. I am not sure what to make of Alexander (Rohit) in glittery pink Persian clothing, especially with the blonde hair, but have full faith in Rohit's acting prowess. Looking forward to the next episode!

I prefer him in white or black, as he was in Macedonia. Not this chammak challo outfit. But he is goodlooking enough to carry off even such gaudy stuff.
Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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What "these two" are you talking about? Barsine has about as much chemisty as a suet pudding. Alexander will have to do double duty and stir up enough chemistry for both of them.

I have never as yet seen Rohit in a romantic role, but I am assured on good authority that he is a whiz in this department, so the Barsine girl can have a free ride!😉😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: inlieu


@bold totally! These two might just have the crackling chemistry we've all been wanting to see!. Alexander notices every minute thing. 😆

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Well, my dear,seeing that I feel like a wrung out sponge after finishing my far too long comments on that wonderful stand alone post of yours, which I have now, following your example, dutifully copied here as well, I have absolutely nothing new to say in response to these comments, for which I am sure you are grateful!😉

Ah, one point. I loved your crack about Vishuddi's likely reaction to the revelation that Alexander is vish- proof. Lovely stuff!

Shyamala Aunty

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
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I don't know about Barsine, but I am sure you are all in for a long overdue treat.😉 I don't know about you youngsters, but the Puru-Laachi romantic scenes somehow made me giggle, especially when they were wrapping themselves around a pillar and "sensing" each other.😉 It is about time you had some of the real stuff. But I doubt if they will give a lot of screen time to poor Alexander's romance.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: inlieu

If indeed there is an Alexander-Barsine romance, boy is the lady in for a treat! She will finally see how women are actually supposed to be treated as I am sure Alexander will give her a lot of love and respect. Hopefully he shows her what real love and passion is.

I'd better stop before I get my hopes up. I am just afraid that in the 20% screen time we might not get this amount of detail about Alexander's romantic life. Having said that, Barsine has previously had a lot of screen time so if we add 2 and 2 together, maybe they'll get some of the 30% screen time as a couple?

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