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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ Ulakmini: I will admit that I don't know a whole lot about the counselling profession. However, I am sure that just like doctors, you are not supposed to discuss your patients problems or make comparisons. Also, you are the one who mentions your profession here all the time so if someone expresses their disbelief at what you would do as a counsellor then it's your fault. Why keep mentioning it if you don't want someone to comment. Let's keep our professional lives separate. I have many friends here whose profession I don't know.
Please don't be offended as I don't mean it in any insulting way but this is my opinion.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: JulieD

@ Ulakmini: I will admit that I don't know a whole lot about the counselling profession. However, I am sure that just like doctors, you are not supposed to discuss your patients problems or make comparisons. Also, you are the one who mentions your profession here all the time so if someone expresses their disbelief at what you would do as a counsellor then it's your fault. Why keep mentioning it if you don't want someone to comment. Let's keep our professional lives separate. I have many friends here whose profession I don't know.

Please don't be offended as I don't mean it in any insulting way but this is my opinion.

yes...I always appreciate the members like you explain somthing in very decent way...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ Ulkamini,
@seemasr if you do not know about the counsellos and their works, that is better not to talk about it...If you do not agree with me i do not have any objection with you..but it is very ugly you are judging other member's proffesions that you realy do not know... as i know IF is not allowed her personal attacks...you are crossing all the limits ...have you any human ethics...? do not you know that , as a ethic prople are not insulting mental clients who need to counsellors support...
Ulkamini,How do you know or judge that i do not know about Counsellors and their work??
If you blow your own trumpet all the time i am a counsellor so i understand Riva, then definately people will have doubt.A counsellor looks every angle of a problem.He/she is not supposed to take side like a layman.Have you ever tried to look at the problem from Vikram's angle?
I am a layman , so i am taking side for Vikram judging my moral set of values .
I agree with you that people out of ethics should not insult mental client, but why are we discussing this??What resemblance it has with Vikram's life.Is Riva mental? No she is damn sane.
So my ethics says me to not support a conniving,murderer.
You are not the person to judge my ethics.Rather i have doubt about your ethics.How you are like a partiality tendence turning blind eye to Vikram Singh's pain given deliberatly by other member?That very nature of your compelling me have a doubt at your profession.
If you have any problem from my attack then Report to wherever you want.
I will keep my proofs , you keep yours.Then we will see ,where this is going.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I fully agree with seema. You are saying you are a counselor but most of your post are biased. A counselor looks on both sides of story and then gives counseling and i have seen most of the time u have criticized TVS in ur post wherein every character has done wrong in PSH and u stand for them and pat their backs n support them?

Pls ADMIT you don't like Vikram in this show?

Alteast we are better most criticized vikram when he hid the truth from sugni even if we like TVS character.

I know i am wrong even to write this But in PSH show i would want Vikram to give them back right-left-centre and there shoudn't be a happy moment in Gulabia / rewa / adini life for what they have given him as they deserve it.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ulakmini

Counsellor's duty to rehabilitate criminals, not to hate them... if you got a chance to work with criminals you will not hate Rewa...evry wednsday I am working in prison and i dealed with many women like Rewa...someone has killed her husband's lover. some one killed husband, there is woman here who killed her own son and daughter ...In jail we are supporting them to come back to the life...
@seemasr if you do not know about the counsellos and their works, that is better not to talk about it...If you do not agree with me i do not have any objection with you..but it is very ugly you are judging other member's proffesions that you realy do not know... as i know IF is not allowed her personal attacks...you are crossing all the limits ...have you any human ethics...? do not you know that , as a ethic prople are not insulting mental clients who need to counsellors support...
@ komal , If Rewa comes to the counsellor...he or she accept her as a human...if counsellor labled her as a merder how she/he provide her to counselling...?



It is REALLY shocking Ulakmini that as a 'professional', you are so judgemental and think you have the right to attack Seemasr over a FICTITIOUS TV SHOW comment.

In case you incorrectly think no one is allowed to express their opinions, just because someone doesn't have the qualification to be a counsellor it doesn't mean that person has no right to his or her own opinions, or make comments over a TV show and the actors!

Seemasr has every right to say that if a counsellor supports criminals then we should pity the clients. This is neither ugly or insulting. If it feels this way to you then perhaps, you need to change your attitude instead of expecting others to change.

Preventing anyone from exercising their freedom to express their view point is not only unprofessional & against all ethics, but it is also against their human rights for freedom to express their personal thoughts & beliefs.

FYI, yes, I do have experience and a qualification in introductory counselling skills.

The first thing counsellors learn is how to LISTEN & show RESPECT & TOLERANCE, to their clients, empathising with them, without passing judgements, prejudice or abuse.

I.F does not allow personal attacks but that is exactly what you are doing with your insults on Seemasr by throwing wild unjustified accusations, over a simple, ONE sentence remark over a TV show.

As for ethics, I don't think anyone here (other than you), thinks that committing murder or encouraging crime is at all ethical by any standards.

Originally posted by: ulakmini

... if counsellor labled her as a merder how she/he provide her to counselling


What kind of question is this?

I would STATE CLEARLY that such an unprofessional counsellor is a criminal and an ACCESSORY to MURDER for not reporting A MURDER crime to the police or authorities.

If, anyone knows this story to be true then they too are an accessory to murder for not reporting this crime & abuse to the authorities.

You may have sympathy for other women who commit murder due to your profession, but it does NOT make their crimes, 'right'. These criminals must naturally feel guilty, have remorse & repent for major crimes, such as murder, to be able to move on with their life. Murder IS a serious crime.

To those of us who believe in God, yes, God does forgive all sins, but provided a person reflects and repents sincerely and does not commit the same major sins over and over again!

The family, friends, community, neighbours, media, along with the psychiatric nurses, psychologists, psychotherapists, counsellors... ALL need to work together to help rid of unjustified aggression & violence, before a horrendous crime is committed and it becomes too late.

What is the point of professionals who are unwilling to listen & make reforms? No wonder the current trend of so much violence, rape, murder & chaos in such countries!

Such a primitive society needs to realise how far it has strayed away from right conduct, and learn to accept it must change. This society needs to address the issues properly by NOT encouraging violence on TV shows portraying criminal activities indiscriminately, with total disregard of its negative influence & affects on the youth today.





Edited by Istila - 12 years ago

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