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Posted: 13 years ago
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I don't believe Vickram is telling lies. What would he gain by using Sugni, by fighting with everyone for her? When a man's intentions are wrong, he will never stand against his family or his peers, especially since Sugni is just a Bedni, for you. First of all, the other Thakurs even commented on how Vickram is trying to change the world.

Even before Gulabiya found out about Riwa she was totally against this relationship. Vickram tried everything to prove his love, but it was never enough. Now, she has some alleged incriminating evidence and she is running with it, without even trying to reason the situation out properly. Our Mother's love is important, and their protectiveness should be respected, but not all the times they are completely right.

If Vickram is considered obsessed, I don't find that plausible either. An obsessed man would not do the things he has done. Obsessed men are abusive and disrespectful, I have never seen that from Vickram towards Sugni. Gulabiya would even be lucky to leave that mansion alive. All Vickram could come up with is a lame, Sugni won't believe you because you are on bad terms. A drowning man will catch at a straw.
I don't think he is that confident about having Sugni in his clutches, or he would tell her the truth, and believe she would stay and understand. If this does not happen, then he can't be obsessed or that confident in a hold over her. He is always panicking.

It must be very hard to finally find love after so many years, at his age by a beautiful young, loving and strong girl, then have his wife he thought was dead show up. Not even a wife he was happy with. It is not shocking he would panic. Gulabiya was saying Riwa looks normal, that is not possible, look how dressed she is and living in such a dilapidated mansion. A sane person could never do that.

If this is the Cvs justification to put Adi and Sugni together, then they have no clue what love is. They should not have made Vickram treat Sugni the way he did for so long and try to twist it into obsession, lack of love and betrayal. A truly deceitful man, has his limits to what he will do for you to show love, Vickram has gone the full hundred.

I don't mind twists and turns in a show, but there is no point in creating this climax with two such great actors, then coming up with some extreme excuse, just because you want to end the relationship and start a new one.

Of course I don't excuse lying and he should have told her the truth, but sometimes things are not that black and white, and that is just how life is.






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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: hillydee

I don't believe Vickram is telling lies. What would he gain by using Sugni, by fighting with everyone for her? When a man's intentions are wrong, he will never stand against his family or his peers, especially since Sugni is just a Bedni, for you. First of all, the other Thakurs even commented on how Vickram is trying to change the world.


Even before Gulabiya found out about Riwa she was totally against this relationship. Vickram tried everything to prove his love, but it was never enough. Now, she has some alleged incriminating evidence and she is running with it, without even trying to reason the situation out properly. Our Mother's love is important, and their protectiveness should be respected, but not all the times they are completely right.

If Vickram is considered obsessed, I don't find that plausible either. An obsessed man would not do the things he has done. Obsessed men are abusive and disrespectful, I have never seen that from Vickram towards Sugni. Gulabiya would even be lucky to leave that mansion alive. All Vickram could come up with is a lame, Sugni won't believe you because you are on bad terms. A drowning man will catch at a straw.
I don't think he is that confident about having Sugni in his clutches, or he would tell her the truth, and believe she would stay and understand. If this does not happen, then he can't be obsessed or that confident in a hold over her. He is always panicking.

It must be very hard to finally find love after so many years, at his age by a beautiful young, loving and strong girl, then have his wife he thought was dead show up. Not even a wife he was happy with. It is not shocking he would panic. Gulabiya was saying Riwa looks normal, that is not possible, look how dressed she is and living in such a dilapidated mansion. A sane person could never do that.

If this is the Cvs justification to put Adi and Sugni together, then they have no clue what love is. They should not have made Vickram treat Sugni the way he did for so long and try to twist it into obsession, lack of love and betrayal. A truly deceitful man, has his limits to what he will do for you to show love, Vickram has gone the full hundred.

I don't mind twists and turns in a show, but there is no point in creating this climax with two such great actors, then coming up with some extreme excuse, just because you want to end the relationship and start a new one.

Of course I don't excuse lying and he should have told her the truth, but sometimes things are not that black and white, and that is just how life is.

Love this post. Wish you'd open a thread with it. So well written. I agree, if the writers are using this to give us the Sugni-Aditya jodi...forget it.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Laila2009 Thanks. I have no clue how to open a thread, but you could open it and copy and paste if you like, I won't mind.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bumtrinket

So Dhanumma went out for a walk one day and suddenly discovered the mad Thakurain living in some ashram, painting portraits and minding her own business so she convinced her to come back to an abandoned haveli where she is to live bricked up behind a wall with just a creepy little girl for company?
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She took two days off from Uma and before going warned Sugni to stay away from TVS😆😆


It's good to know that Dhanuma is generally a bhatakti aatma instead of a Sugni-blocking specifically bhatakti aatma. 😆
🤣 she seems to accompany TVS mainly on his Reva visits or suddenly appears when he is romancing with Sugni like a kabab me haddi with a disapproving expression and face and TVS who is at ease suddenly comes to attention with a kind of oh God expression😉

dhanumma has some kind of backstory here. And TVS is definitely fudging the lines somewhere. all in all, I'm so happy to see the CVs put in some thought and effort!

Sure it was always my thought and posted also what hold she has

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I just had a thought, I wonder if Dhanuma found Riwa and told her about Sugni, and they planned for her to act insane, so that Vickram will feel guilty and not divorce her or get rid of her. What if she is a look-alike of Riwa, who is really dead? I don't trust Dhanuma one bit from day one, and I did not like her parting comment to Sugni when she went on that short trip. She does not even strike me as the type who would go on a short vacation. I also feel that man she made plans with to burn Sugni alive, was her son. Anything is possible with this woman. She never liked Sugni from day one, and I am sure she would not want to work for her. Maybe she is working with Vickram's sister. Afterall, Vickram's sister was the one who got him married to Riwa in the first place.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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hillydee, just loved your post. It was perfect.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Guys I have read all your views and its superb.

I feel there is still some secrets to be unravelled like

- How and when Dhanuma found Reva
- Is Reva really sick
- What's the real intention of Dhanuma becoz she is against SugVi wedding and at the same time she says she is loyal to TVS and would do anything for him.
- Does Dhanuma exercise control over Vikram or is she blackmailing him?
- Cant Dhanuma see that Vikram was unhappy with Reva and wants to move on in his life with Sugni.
- Does Dhanuma want Vikram to remain with Reva.

CVs have a lot of work to do in revealing all these secrets & I think things will become very interesting from now on.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ash_arti

Guys I have read all your views and its superb.


I feel there is still some secrets to be unravelled like

- How and when Dhanuma found Reva
This is the biggest one I feel. The woman never takes a vacation, and one fine day she takes a vacation and finds Reva? Something smells wrong there.
- Is Reva really sick
The way she was talking, and all the mention of medicine etc seems that she really is sick. But whether someone is keeping her sick intentionally... we'll find out, I guess.
- What's the real intention of Dhanuma becoz she is against SugVi wedding and at the same time she says she is loyal to TVS and would do anything for him.
She IS loyal to TVS, but she doesn;t want Sugni as her malkin. A couple of possible reasons-- she hates Bedni women because of jiji's suffering, she hates bednis because of something in her past (nothing has been shown about her family, and she keeps mentioning words like fire in her soul etc), she believes bednis are socially inferior and therefore it is not fitting for Vik to be with one. More clarification is needed for her actual motive out of all these, but as I see it,
she is against SugVi because she is loyal to Vik, and thinks that marrying Sugni would be wrong for him.
- Does Dhanuma exercise control over Vikram or is she blackmailing him?
Doesn't seem like blackmail, she HAS put him in an uneasy situation.
- Cant Dhanuma see that Vikram was unhappy with Reva and wants to move on in his life with Sugni.
She most likely can, but she has her own ideas about class distinctions, if Sugni had been a thakur woman, she would have wanted Vikram to move on because Reva does not give him happiness, but she firmly believes Sugni is not right for him.
- Does Dhanuma want Vikram to remain with Reva.
If it keeps him away from Sugni. I think Dhanuma thinks Reva is the lesser of two evils, since she is at least of noble birth.

CVs have a lot of work to do in revealing all these secrets & I think things will become very interesting from now on.



The other thing about Dhanuma that is mysterious is her family. If she does have a granddaughter, and presumably other family, why does she never take vacations to visit them?😕

Funny how Vikram's mystery has now become Dhanuma's mystery.😆

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