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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Cool_Kirti what has changed in Abeer. His impulsiveness has not changed a bit. His impulsiveness in closing tunnu's loan without telling Meher, got her almost dead. And the comments she heard from Kuber, that she is a woman who is opening her doors for rich men. Who was responsible for that.
And for giving money to Tunnu even Suman reprimands Abeer. Then he knows the truth of Kuber. He publicly insults his dad. Yes Kuber maybe bad, but even he doesn't publicly insult Meher. What needs to be spoken it has to be spoken in private. But going ahead and washing the dirty linen in public is not a mark of maturity.
I stick to my point, Abeer is not mature, impulsive with his actions even at this point he can only bring hurt. Because if he thinks he wants something, he wants it by hook or crook. Doesn't matter who lives, who dies, who suffers. Yes he might repent for a short time, but is soon back to his own ways of being irresponsible.
And you said you cant compare Abeer to Sooraj because Abeer is a rich lad. Why cant I compare him with Dev. Dev too belonged to a super rich family, have got enough money and comforts. Still from where that compassion came in him. From where self reliance came in him. He was a guy with very good manners, good educational qualifications and earning on his own irrespective of being the 50% shareholder of a very big corporation. So it doesn't matter whether you are rich or poor. Your background may have some influence on your attitudes, but in the end it is you and the values you believe makes you the person you are, only if you are willing to retrospect properly.
@Zainab I told Meher's problem. She is clinging too much to the past. Instead of trying to put across her problems, she points out his problems. Her insecurity is at the root cause of all her actions. And a mother's protective instinct that her son should not suffer heartbreak in the hands of an impulsive man. If Meher needs to trust Abeer, let him do something to prove her wrong. As of now I have not seen anything.
Even when EHT was running I was clear with locket and guitar Durga should never melt and go back to Dev revealing her identity. Let him deliver on the trust Nithya placed on him. And yes CVs did make Dev deliver on the trust Nithya placed on him. He took the proper punishment for his mistake before getting her back. And Durga too proved why Dev loved Nithya so much and to what extend she can go for his sake. I mean there was a give and take in that relation.
So Abeer also prove that he can be a good husband. Mere Nishaan doesn't make him one.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Cool_Kirti what has changed in Abeer. His impulsiveness has not changed a bit. His impulsiveness in closing tunnu's loan without telling Meher, got her almost dead. And the comments she heard from Kuber, that she is a woman who is opening her doors for rich men. Who was responsible for that.

And for giving money to Tunnu even Suman reprimands Abeer. Then he knows the truth of Kuber. He publicly insults his dad. Yes Kuber maybe bad, but even he doesn't publicly insult Meher. What needs to be spoken it has to be spoken in private. But going ahead and washing the dirty linen in public is not a mark of maturity.
I stick to my point, Abeer is not mature, impulsive with his actions even at this point he can only bring hurt. Because if he thinks he wants something, he wants it by hook or crook. Doesn't matter who lives, who dies, who suffers. Yes he might repent for a short time, but is soon back to his own ways of being irresponsible.
@Zainab I told Meher's problem. She is clinging too much to the past. Instead of trying to put across her problems, she points out his problems. Her insecurity is at the root cause of all her actions. And a mother's protective instinct that her son should not suffer heartbreak in the hands of an impulsive man. If Meher needs to trust Abeer, let him do something to prove her wrong. As of now I have not seen anything.
Even when EHT was running I was clear with locket and guitar Durga should never melt and go back to Dev revealing her identity. Let him deliver on the trust Nithya placed on him. And yes CVs did make Dev deliver on the trust Nithya placed on him. He took the proper punishment for his mistake before getting her back. And Durga too proved why Dev loved Nithya so much and to what extend she can go for his sake. I mean there was a give and take in that relation.
So Abeer also prove that he can be a good husband. Mere Nishaan doesn't make him one.


@shrutiravi... If Meher bumps into a car that is not Abeer's fault... Like i said Abeer is being blamed for every damn reason...Like he is some punching bag...Nobody wants to notice and appreciate the 100 good things in Abeer... everybody wants to blame that one immaturity part of his and punish him for lifetime...He is not God to be 100 % perfect... ABeer nor Kuber told Meher to bang herself on to the car...Abeer intended good ... He did not want Meher to be upset with Tunnu so he decides to hide the fact from Meher and pay the loan himself... If that is not maturity then what is?? He rescues Tunnu...rescues Meher... If kuber blames something to meher it is not Abeer's fault... He was there as a good husband when meher was admitted to hospital...Where was Akshat then when Meher was at the death bed? SO what if he says things about his father in public? he is blamed for not standing up for Meher like Sooraj does for Sandhya and when he does exactly that by standing with Meher in front of whole world he is criticised for doing so...If Sooraj had problems standing up in front of family... Imagine Abeer ... He stood in front of whole world in support of his love... That makes him better than anybody...It requires guts...



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Posted: 9 years ago
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@cool-kirti you are missing the point, when Sooraj stood up for Sandhya, he didn't insult his mother. Whenever he had to sort out the differences he took the blame on himself guarding the reputation of his wife and mother. That was his beauty. He was a good son, brother and husband. He managed relations.
Meher was hurt, Kuber is the problem. When Meher has divorced him its Meher's fault. Insult Meher in public, Insult Kuber in public. You cant stand up by someone by pointing fingers at someone else. You don't become a good husband by becoming a bad son. Suffering happens when you try to balance out.Maturity comes when you try to balance it out.
Dev could have easily rebelled against his family and gone out and took a stand in public. Many were expecting him to do that and he was termed weak just because he was not questioning his family. I could emphatizize with his character because he was trying to balance out being a son and a friend. He didn't had solid proof to convince his mother because Payal changed her statement. He wanted to ensure his mother is not hurt, when he rebels against his family, because his dad's name is also associated with the extended family and that name is not tarnished. All his problems stem from the balancing.
And Abeer has to learn this balancing.
And here it is not only Abeer at fault, Meher is also at fault. Akshat is right when he says she cant manage relations. Both has to grow up. Atleast for Ishaan's sake.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@cool-kirti you are missing the point, when Sooraj stood up for Sandhya, he didn't insult his mother. Whenever he had to sort out the differences he took the blame on himself guarding the reputation of his wife and mother. That was his beauty. He was a good son, brother and husband. He managed relations.

Meher was hurt, Kuber is the problem. When Meher has divorced him its Meher's fault. Insult Meher in public, Insult Kuber in public. You cant stand up by someone by pointing fingers at someone else. You don't become a good husband by becoming a bad son. Suffering happens when you try to balance out.Maturity comes when you try to balance it out.
Dev could have easily rebelled against his family and gone out and took a stand in public. Many were expecting him to do that and he was termed weak just because he was not questioning his family. I could emphatizize with his character because he was trying to balance out being a son and a friend. He didn't had solid proof to convince his mother because Payal changed her statement. He wanted to ensure his mother is not hurt, when he rebels against his family, because his dad's name is also associated with the extended family and that name is not tarnished. All his problems stem from the balancing.
And Abeer has to learn this balancing.
And here it is not only Abeer at fault, Meher is also at fault. Akshat is right when he says she cant manage relations. Both has to grow up. Atleast for Ishaan's sake.



@shrutiravi Sooraj did make Sandhya leave home after the airplane incident though Sandhya was right in her place... SO here even Sooraj is not 100% right...

I like your point that Meher and Abeer both need to grow up here ...😆😆Its not ABeer's fault alone that things are the way they are... If Abeer acts in a weird way it is that Meher is making him do so by not giving him a chance and rushing towards her marriage...
Edited by cool_kriti - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: cool_kriti



@shrutiravi Sooraj did make Sandhya leave home after the airplane incident though Sandhya was right in her place... SO here even Sooraj is not 100% right...

I like your point that Meher and Abeer both need to grow up here ...😆😆Its not ABeer's fault alone that things are the way they are... If Abeer acts in a weird way it is that Meher is making him do so by not giving him a chance and rushing towards her marriage...



I'm not supporting Meher's decision of marrying Akshat before moving on completely...

But I can understand her here...

... you see, Meher wasn't any rush to marry Akshat because she badly needs a husband.. if she wanted to do that then she would have done it in those 8 years... but she was rushed today because, Abeer announced in his show that he hates his DAD and he is going to get Meher back.. in his show after leaving Meher's home.. Seriously, can any one announces that way? She was scared with his still impulsive actions, which could create some more problems in her life and so rushed to marry a guy who was waiting for her since 8 years and was being like a father to her son... this might not be right decision but the reason is Abeer's impulsiveness, other wise she wouldn't have rushed..

In real life, there are so many rock stars who have so many problems in their life.. are they announcing it in their show? is it anything right thing to do so? Even if he gets a second chance and Meher marrys him again... I doubt that whenever they have small fights.. then he will go and anounce in his show I hate Meher.. Such was the level of his immaturity right now...


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Exactly SSS. I am also not supporting Meher's decision, but only knows why she is doing what she is doing. Her fear, her scars, her protective instinct for her son everything makes her do that. And now everyone is telling Abeer is not hurting Ishaan. But when he believed Ishaan is Akshat's son this was the same man who asked the 7 year old why he is calling Meher mom. Who was he to ask that question to the 7 year old. For all reasons Meher might have even adopted a child and decided to bring him up as his own. Or she decided to be a mother's to Akshat's son if he was divorced or a widower. But Abeer had no right to ask Ishaan that question.
@cool_kirti all my analysis of Sooraj is pre-IPS. Post-IPS they butchered Sooraj for glorifying Sandhya and Bhabo. You can read my detailed analysis, my loud criticisms and my reservations of CVs actions in DABH forum. 😃
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@cool Kriti..
I wholeheartedly agree Meher marrying Akshat is wrong. But that's not because there is anything wrong with Akshat. Akshat could be absolutely perfect and it would still be wrong. Its because Meher is doing it for insincere reasons other than a genuine desire to make a life with Akshat. And more than anything she is doing wrong to Akshat. So I can't respect her there.

But Abeer still does not have the right to control Meher. That way any stalker can say I know she really loves me deep down. Have you watched sleeping with the enemy? The wife loved her husband too-- but he didn't have a right to control her.

Abeer doesn't actually know what is going on in Meher's mind. Even if she loves Abeer -- she has right to autonomy. She has a right to choice.

And irrespective of what Meher feels for Abeer, he does not know what Meher really feels for Akshat. People do have great loves that for whatever reason don't work out and move on to have happy lives with people they are more compatible with. Meher is far more compatible with Akshat. You can love more than one person in your life.

Abeer trying to make Akshat the bad guy is incredibly frustrating. Akshat is not perfect but he has a lot of good qualities that Abeer is discounting. Its not easy to be a father to someone else's kid. Its not easy to stand by patiently waiting for the woman you love for 8 years without putting pressure on her. Supporting her in her career. Picking up her kid from school. I don't think Abeer could've done that so I don't think its fair for Abeer to waltz in and say he is the better man and is owed a second chance.

Using Alia was appendix's plan-- but doesn't Abeer have a brain and a sense of morality? At least he should've told Alia the truth and asked her if she was okay being used like this. If he is still so influenceable then honestly he is not ready to be a parent.

You say Abeer was genuinely trying to be friends with Akshat? How does Akshat actually know that after Abeer used his car as a washroom?Akshat is not a mind reader. Akshat is grey. What i like about the character is that he is showing Abeer what its like to be on the receiving end of the kinds of things he does to other people.

This is the biggest problem with Abeer's attitude. He does crappy stuff but he expects the whole world to excuse it since deep down he has a good heart. He throws people in water but when he wants to be friends he expects them to be friends. But never stops doing crappy stuff.

Real life doesn't work like that. You do crappy stuff, people are going to think you are a crappy person. Why does Bua hate Abeer-- because he does stupid things like kidnap her -- why should she give him the benefit of the doubt automatically? Why can't he change first?

The difference with Abeer and Akshat is reliability and patience. And that's something Abeer needs to learn. Even today Akshat fought with Meher. But he didn't fly off he handle. He stated his problem, heard her side of things and together they tried to find a solution. Actually it was quite healthy. There was no name calling and storming out the door.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yes Malikakas. What I like about Akshat is that he is showing Abeer how to be at the receiving end. And I really like that, because it is time someone stopped mollycoddling Abeer. Bacha hai, men are like this, that and all. Accountability applies to all. It is because of supporting the attitude of men like Abeer, we still hear rape is a mistake, acid was thrown on the woman because she refused a proposal. You can say Abeer is not like that, he wont do that and all. But Abeer's attitude of bullying is the early stages of such things, owning woman as a property.
Meher is Abeer's ex-wife. It is time he accepted that. And try not to control her. He can have custody battle for the child, but he cannot decide who Meher wants in her life as husband.
He did an insincere marriage plan with Sasha. And Meher is doing an insincere plan with Akshat. I know Rage of Angels. I know what happens to Michael Moretti. Akshat is my moretti. Abeer can have the woman, but most probably Akshat will win it hands down for me.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Yes Malikakas. What I like about Akshat is that he is showing Abeer how to be at the receiving end. And I really like that, because it is time someone stopped mollycoddling Abeer. Bacha hai, men are like this, that and all. Accountability applies to all. It is because of supporting the attitude of men like Abeer, we still hear rape is a mistake, acid was thrown on the woman because she refused a proposal. You can say Abeer is not like that, he wont do that and all. But Abeer's attitude of bullying is the early stages of such things, owning woman as a property.

Meher is Abeer's ex-wife. It is time he accepted that. And try not to control her. He can have custody battle for the child, but he cannot decide who Meher wants in her life as husband.
He did an insincere marriage plan with Sasha. And Meher is doing an insincere plan with Akshat. I know Rage of Angels. I know what happens to Michael Moretti. Akshat is my moretti. Abeer can have the woman, but most probably Akshat will win it hands down for me.



As you rightly said, accountability applies to all. Abeer already stoop so low..and today's his attitude needs to be condemned. We can't really say Abeer won't stoop even more low because he is good at heart..

I never before expected to see something like which he did with Aliya but he did..this just gave me a feeling that he is capable of doing anything. He is being unpredictable by doing anything he wants.. there were no filters and no boundaries.

Saying his heart is gold but he is just immature.. or whatsoever... doesn't make sense...His way of dealing things is absurd. What its important is that.the path he is following in his life should be good, and shouldn't hurt others. But, we can see how many people he is hurting.. Aliya.. Sasha.. and Meher . How badly he treated Ishaan ,when he arrived first!.. And even before knowing much about Akshat.. he already started to trying to prove him wrong. We just can't support him by saying all this is just because immaturity otherwise he is good at heart...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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absolutely i agree with u completely...abeer will not only be a good but THE BEST and the most loving and caring hubby and a responsible father as well this time😃😃😳...we all have seen despite his anger in season 1 he was so caring towards meher whenever anything wrong occured with meher...pinky bhai case then swimming pool case...infact even in past abeer was the one who tried to convince meher that he does not want divorce but it was meher who in her anger or ego(i must say) did not give him a chance...😕😕...as for now in my opinion it has become complusory for meher to realize the worth of abeer and for that some big shock like accident track is a compulsory thing to occur ...this is necessary for abeer to win back his meher and child...😊😊...otherwise we all know meher is so much stubborn...no offence...its my opinion...😊😊😊



Meher is still stubborn. Even in the engagement party, Meher said that she does not want to get ditched again which means that she has indirectly accepted that she still loves Abeer.

Meher has to get over her ego or prejudice, then her bua to accept Abeer back.

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