Account of Victory of Peshwa Bajirao over Nasir Jung - Page 3

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO

Abhay wonderful post 👏

Thanks Maddy.

Kudos to you for taking such active interest and so much effort to bring out the reality of Bajirao's victories.

So much research for compiling all the evidences in support. It is incredible how you linked those different letters. As you told me there are 400+ such letters! These letters ARE history.

There are around 400 to 500 letters relating to this period. To know about a person we have to look into his innermost thoughts. Biographies are mostly written from a court perspective. But these letters written by the person himself can be deemed most close to his feelings. Hence, according to me, they are priceless.




I got goosebumps thinking of Bajirao Peshwe and his army riding through Delhi!
The days when Mugals used to send massive armies to Deccan and it was Bajirao who turned this into Marathas attacking and conquering Mugals.

Yes, it was Bajirao who made this turn. I did not write about this Delhi incident in the blog as it was not related to this topic. Actually the Mughal Emperor had kept the boats ready in case the royal family needs to flee away.

But since Bajirao was only interested in showing his might and not attacking the Mughals, hence that dire state of running away of the royal family was not reached. But the Emperor who was already frightened sent some reserve forces to face Bajirao.




It was such a special feeling to read the letters. To peek into the mind of such a great man, his confidence his bravery his military acumen his fierce pride his towering personality. The details in the letters, the planning, the reasoning behind planning any campaign, the logic and practicality in altering those plans, at all times thinking of victory and keeping Maratha honor high.

These forces were defeated as i explained in the blog with the help of this letter.
A Mughal (rather Muslim) record of 18th century mentions an interesting point.

It says that - "As the people of Hindustan (referring to Mughal forces) did not have the skill in the art of fighting on horse back, which characterizes the Maharattas (referring to Marathas under Bajirao), most of them were slain."

Yes, when we read that same letter which was written 100s year back by these legends, it gives a great feeling. However, i am thankful to you for the translation, as you know, my Marathi is very poor and i also came to know of the letter contents properly reading after your translation.



Chimaji Appa, in history littered with backstabbing murdering blood relatives - a rock for Bajirao and Nanasaheb. The love, respect, trust for each other shines thru in those letters.

Totally agree. A point worth noting. At the same time, the respect which he shows to his brother is quite endearing. We have read so much of history! How many brothers do we get like this ?

Just see Chimnaji's salutation to Bajirao - " Shreeman Teerth Swarup Rau " !!




Reading your post 2 things occurred.

Shivaji Maharaj, Bajirao Peshwe, Akbar - all warriors who fought so many wars and all of them did not die on war field.

Yes, all of these warriors were in a different league. But Shivaji, Bajirao or even Maharana Pratap as Radhika said, used to lead their armies personally. They thought it was better to live to fight another day, instead to just fighting to sacrifice their lives without giving a second thought to "what after them". They thought for future too.

I left Akbar out, as he had a great army and very able generals who fought for him, most of the times. For me, he is different for certain special reasons and his broad outlook towards religion in 16th century. During your absence i made a 3 part blog about his death. If you get time, then DO READ at least the Part 3 of that Blog. I have summarized how he was so much despised and hated by the fanatics of his times due to his liberal views, to the extent of him being called an apostate and a danger to Islam ! Link is mentioned above, in my reply to Radhika at top. It is a politically incorrect post of mine.

Your mention of Akbar reminds of something. Today is the anniversary of one of the most destructive wars seen in medieval India, next only to, perhaps Panipat 1761 & destruction of Vijaynagar at Talikota in 1564.

23rd February 1568 was the day when the Rajput Fort of Chittorgarh (Mewar) ultimately fell after a long siege of 5 months against Mughal Emperor Akbar. You have read that series Maddy, must be remembering the event, if not the date. Today is the 449th anniversary. In Rajasthan, this Jauhar & Saka is remembered with great devotion - "Tija Sakha Chittod Ra".



PB serial is making so much of Bajirao's being alpayushi, but Chimaji Appa died in less than 1 year after Bajirao and he was the younger brother. So he must be have been less than 40 then.

Chimnaji Ballal was around 33 when he died. It is mentioned in the Peshwa papers that he used to be sick, continuously.

At the time of his brother Bajirao's death, aged 39, he is reported to have said - " Rau never got sick in his entire lifetime even once, and this single sickness took him away from us. While i, who always remained sick throughout am still alive."

I have lot of papers in Marathi. I will be sending them to you slowly for translations till the time you get fed up. Lol.


Why did Shivaji Maharaj and Bajirao Peshwe had such short lives? How different India's history would have been if they had lived 20 years more?!

I agree. I replied to Radhika above, in detail about lot of " What ifS " regarding our history. Please see.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO




Thanks Shruti for sharing this 😊

Wonderful painting. He has such typical bramhin looks, the fair skin, straight nose, light eyes.

Abhay you had mentioned in your previous post that Bajirao was very handsome man. Is there any such painting available of Bajirao?




Maddy,

I have 2 black and white ones of similar pose on a horse but that is small which i clicked at the National Archives.

From my present knowledge, i know that there is only 1 contemporary painting of Bajirao which has survived. And that is one i posted in my blog. Though, it is not very clear. When i get the clearer version i will post it.

BTW, the Marathi papers describe Baji, Chima's appearance , rather the whole family of Peshwa as being fair in appearance and of handsome features.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: The.Lannister

Why a new thread? 😕 I totally missed out on this thread.

Will read everything & comment😳 And like Maddy said above, if possible do share pics of Bajirao if possible😳 I would love to see the man over whom the women of the Nizam showered pearls😉😆




I hope you are well now, Shruti.
Take care.

I made this new thread as this was a new blog. So, i thought to announce it using a new thread. But, the discussions on the old thread will continue as they were continuing.

About the painting, Lol. I just now replied to Maddy on previous page (last comment) about the same. I have just one painting of Bajirao, on a horse. I have 2 more but they are similar, and are in black and white which i clicked at the National Archives.

Though, to add more, the Marathi papers describe him as fair in complexion of very handsome features. And to add to your fantasy, let me mention that not only the women of the Nizam showered pearls on him...

When Bajirao visited Aurangabad, the women of that place took to streets to get a glimpse of Bajirao. And one incident about women of Jaipur i have already mentioned in my main first thread.

There is another incident which i know. Will mention in future. Lol

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek




Please open the link.
Read the post till the end.

Check the references, & cross verify them (in case of any doubt).
Your questions will be answered.

PS : My post is not about the points you have raised / mentioned. :)



first of all i always use to admire your hard work to give us right knowledge of history. so big thanks for it.

second i know " YOUR POST DOES NOT BELONG TO MY QUESTIONS"😉
but i am little lazy person to make other thread for my comments😆 so i wrote it here in your thread. i only wanted to share my thoughts with u simple. 😳
really i don't like when every producer or director converts every " GREAT WORRIER OR KING OF OUR HISTORY" into " GREAT DEVDAS" 😡

you can see their " ASHOKA THE GREAT... AKBAR THE GREAT... EVEN PESHWA BAJIRAO".

i really want to like kill them to ruining our beautiful history 😆
if i hurt you then " I AM SORRY"
BUT IT WAS ONLY A HEALTHY CONVERSATION BUDDY .😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: _goofyCat_

Wonderful post Abhay. Kudos to you for all the efforts in finding out the references and putting them in such an easy way that they can be understood.

Yes, it looks obvious from the letters you posted that Nasir was defeated clearly by Baji Rao. His plan is so full proof and well thought!!

I am not as much aware of this part of Maratha history as I am about Shivaji's history. It has been years since I read anything about the legendary Peshwa and his battles, but reading this post I could recollect a few things. And it's always a delight to read the Marathi of that era, the Farsi/ Hindi influence adds a certain laheja to it. I absolutely enjoyed reading them, thanks again!




Thanks Rashmi !

You should thank Maddy first. I wish i could completely read the letter my self in Marathi to enjoy those words which were written in that era, just to get an understanding of how much percentage of Farsi they mixed in their native language while speaking.

The Peshwa was a winner in this battle without any doubt. There is another important aspect to this victory. There is a letter of Nana Saheb written on 26 January 1740 which says that he is not sure whether the campaign against Nasir Jung will succeed or not, due to the state of Bajirao when Mastani was kept under confinement.

But see the letters of just 1 week after that, from 7 to 9 February 1740 which were quoted in the blog. Bajirao and Chimnaji attacked Nasir and decisively defeated him !

Only a man with a very tough heart can rise above his personal sorrows and do this. Bajirao did it.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Maddy,
I could see mischief in part 1 of your above comment. :-P

But Bajirao made very calculated decisions. Also, Shahu ji would not have liked his open attack on Delhi.

And, don't worry. This incident is clearly known in history. But our texts which we study have completely obliterated this part. Open your book, you will find death of Aurangzeb in 1707, followed by Carnatic Wars of 1740s, and then Battle of Plassey of 1757. In between all this part of 1710 to 1740 is found no where..


As far the second part of your comment about Mughals and skill / art of horse riding. Here is the extract from the book itself.

The lines i quoted above, can be read here, below.




See the last 2 lines of above picture.



See the first 2 lines of picture given below.





Here is the book itself.





And here is the publisher



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Awesome post and pics Abay😃
The blog post was very informative
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: swriter


first of all i always use to admire your hard work to give us right knowledge of history. so big thanks for it.

second i know " YOUR POST DOES NOT BELONG TO MY QUESTIONS"😉

but i am little lazy person to make other thread for my comments😆 so i wrote it here in your thread. i only wanted to share my thoughts with u simple. 😳

really i don't like when every producer or director converts every " GREAT WORRIER OR KING OF OUR HISTORY" into " GREAT DEVDAS" 😡

you can see their " ASHOKA THE GREAT... AKBAR THE GREAT... EVEN PESHWA BAJIRAO".

i really want to like kill them to ruining our beautiful history 😆
if i hurt you then " I AM SORRY"

BUT IT WAS ONLY A HEALTHY CONVERSATION BUDDY .😳



Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

There is no need to be sorry & there was nothing in your post which could hurt me or anyone else. I only pointed that, my post was not about the topic you had mentioned, and that, the contents of my post could be verified, as references are present there.

I understand it was your sentiment / regard for the history of the wonder that was Peshwa Bajirao. Thank you very much for appreciating my posts. :)

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek



Thanks for your detailed response, Radhika.

Equal thanks to you too for the detailed response, Abhay.

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