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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: muse10

@ ChemistryMajor- good to see you again!

I think you have really good points.

The parallels between Ankita and Purvi are striking.

Both left during pregnancies and into oblivion because they wanted others to be happy (same old sacrifice theme, even though I am not too much against it if done in a dignified manner without melodrama). Yet there are some differences in the tracks that make things complicated.

Purvi's being an unwed mother does not seem critical because most of us seemed to agree that the circumstances of conception should not impact the child. It is never their fault and each child should have equal rights and dignity regardless of in what circumstance they were conceived. In that track, Arjun actually loved Purvi very much, so he was not going to deny the paternity if the issue ever came up. Further, Arjun-Purvi were engaged - so there was a basis for their intimacy. Purvi's leaving was an act of sacrifice.

In Ankita's case, she also left - to a degree as sacrifice; but to a degree it is also a pragmatic solution to a very messy situation. She was a wedded wife all right, but to the insane but sweet Naren who loved her as Ahana. Ankita never existed for him. The new Naren - who is a completely different person and is madly in love with Pari - abhors the idea of having anything to do with Ankita . If he came to know about his paternity, he would badly insult Ankita and accuse her that she seduced an insane man. He did not wait to jump to conclusions about Shashank being a father just from Ankita's statement that she had loved Shashank. Additionally, the contract that Ankita was tricked into signing by Rushali has legal value. So, all in all it is such a messy situation that in order to allow two people in love to be together and avoid any further insults for herself and her baby, it is good for her to go away and not accept that Naren (who is an entirely different person now) is the father.

As for the baby's rights, if the father saw the baby only as a symbol of his helplessness due to which he lost the love of his life - what good is it for the baby? Being raised by Anikta as a single mother, the child will not have the privilege of money, but a strong woman like Ankita can raise the child with good values and dignity as did other women in this show.



We live in a society where Unwed mothers and their family are looked down upon, their character is questioned and all sorts of names are used (It happened in this forum too). When Purvi left, more than sacrifice it was a way of protecting her child and her family from humiliation.
Also let us not forget the time Purvi found out that she was pregnant with Arjun's child, Arjun was already married to Ovi. Purvi knew what kind of insults would come her way if she announced to the world that she is pregnant with Arjun's (her Sister's Husband) child.

Yes most of us agree that Arjun and Purvi loved each other and were going get married but that still wouldn't stop the humiliation from the society because lots of people in our society still feel that sex before marriage is a sin.

Ankita was Naren's wife. As you said after Naren was sane he wasn't willing to accept Ankita but the rest of the world knew they were married. Ankita had only Naren to convince since he didn't remember the time spent with her but everyone else in her family including Pari would accept that fact. I don't know much about Naren, Ankita and Pari story so I wont get into why, how, what was correct but I do stand by my comment that Ankita's situation is not at all similar to Purvis. Just because both of them were pregnant does not mean their situations were same.

Purvi being an Unwed Mother and Ankita a Pregnant Married woman is Biggest and Most Critical difference between Purvi and Ankita's situations.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Purvi and Ankita are same in one way as both didn't bother to inform Ovi and Pari respectively about their sexual relationship. The partners have been treated like use and throw. The decision of Ovi and Pari could have been different if they had mentioned about this moot point. The writers have never tried to imagine atleast once how the other character would have reacted if they know that the person whom they love had sexual relationship with the other person and instead have given us the same old track.


Now Purvi is expected to inform Ovi (the person who was using her mother's name to get a Man who never loved her) about her and Arjun's relation too. Everyone knew Arjun loved Purvi and were going to get married and yet Ovi married Arjun. Purvi gave up the love of her life yet she is expected to inform Ovi that she and Arjun had had sex few days before their wedding. Sorry but Ovi should have known better when she married a man who was in love with someone else.

Yes Purvi should never have given into Ovi's pressure. She ruined her and Arjun's life. She was a fool to that.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I dont know how people say that Naren loved Ankita,It was not Ankita who he loved,It is Ahana aka Pari who he loves immensely .
Also why did she consummated her marriage with a mentally ill person when she knew she is not Ahana and is Ankita.Naren was mentally ill so didnt knew what he is doing but Ankita was fully in her sense.She should had avoided it
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: style14


We live in a society where Unwed mothers and their family are looked down upon, their character is questioned and all sorts of names are used (It happened in this forum too). When Purvi left, more than sacrifice it was a way of protecting her child and her family from humiliation.
Also let us not forget the time Purvi found out that she was pregnant with Arjun's child, Arjun was already married to Ovi. Purvi knew what kind of insults would come her way if she announced to the world that she is pregnant with Arjun's (her Sister's Husband) child.

Yes most of us agree that Arjun and Purvi loved each other and were going get married but that still wouldn't stop the humiliation from the society because lots of people in our society still feel that sex before marriage is a sin.

Ankita was Naren's wife. As you said after Naren was sane he wasn't willing to accept Ankita but the rest of the world knew they were married. Ankita had only Naren to convince since he didn't remember the time spent with her but everyone else in her family including Pari would accept that fact. I don't know much about Naren, Ankita and Pari story so I wont get into why, how, what was correct but I do stand by my comment that Ankita's situation is not at all similar to Purvis. Just because both of them were pregnant does not mean their situations were same.

Purvi being an Unwed Mother and Ankita a Pregnant Married woman is Biggest and Most Critical difference between Purvi and Ankita's situations.


Hi Style 14:

I agree with you completely on an important point, which I forgot to mention in my post. It is that when Purvi came to know about her pregnancy, Arjun and Ovi were already married. So, it was an important factor for sure. Thank you for mentioning that.


About unwed and wed mother's positions in this show and in general in our society, I guess we have different views. I do agree with you that unwed mothers are not easily accepted in our society. But if the two people involved were actually engaged that does take off much of the edge of the critique and people accept the child because generally the parents are married by the time of the arrival of the child. In the second generation story in PR the case was different because Arjun-Purvi could not marry. If they had married, the issue of the child being conceived before marriage would not create any problems. As I see, the main reason why Purvi left was because her presence and news of her pregnancy would destroy Arjun-Ovi's marriage. That is why it is more of a sacrifice in my view.


In Ankita's case, even though she is a wed mother-to-be and in the society's view it would be perfectly appropriate for Ankita- Naren to be parents, what about the man himself? If he would view her only as a gold digger, what kind of acceptance would it be even if he is convinced to accept her? Further, Rushali's getting the signature on the documents of contract, ensure that she can prove Ankita to be a greedy gold digger. Why should Ankita compromise her and her child's dignity just to be accepted as Naren Karmakar's wife? I guess it is a difference between a wed wife in social terms and a loved wife in personal terms.

But I respect your POV. We just have different ones.

Thank you.


Edited by muse10 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Purvi and Ankita left their homes when they were pregnant .Their circumstances are not identical ut the main reason why they did this was the same .
They wanted to save a marriage which could get effected if this babys existence came in front of everyone .
Purvi was an unwed mother and Ankita was married but to a mentally unstable man who would be devastated to find out that he was that intimate with anyone else besides the woman he really loved .
Ankita was in love with him, she was married to him and was told that Ahana was dead .He at that time was giving her so much love and attention so I do not blame her at all for getting intimate with her husband .Now she is taking full responsibility of that action and leaving without troubling anyone ..
Both Purvi and Ankita were selfless brave girls , foolish as well though but they had hearts of gold ..
Purvi was lucky she found a Guardian angel in Onir who supported her and her daughter and eventually made sure that Purvi and Arjun end up together as they loved each other ..
I hope Ankita to finds her Guardian angel and I hope she falls in love with him .She deserves happiness and someone who would love and respect her ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Purvi and Ankita left their homes when they were pregnant .Their circumstances are not identical ut the main reason why they did this was the same .

They wanted to save a marriage which could get effected if this babys existence came in front of everyone .
Purvi was an unwed mother and Ankita was married but to a mentally unstable man who would be devastated to find out that he was that intimate with anyone else besides the woman he really loved .
Ankita was in love with him, she was married to him and was told that Ahana was dead .He at that time was giving her so much love and attention so I do not blame her at all for getting intimate with her husband .Now she is taking full responsibility of that action and leaving without troubling anyone ..
Both Purvi and Ankita were selfless brave girls , foolish as well though but they had hearts of gold ..
Purvi was lucky she found a Guardian angel in Onir who supported her and her daughter and eventually made sure that Purvi and Arjun end up together as they loved each other ..
I hope Ankita to finds her Guardian angel and I hope she falls in love with him .She deserves happiness and someone who would love and respect her ...


Purvi found out she was Pregnant 1-2 months after Arjun-Ovi wedding.

Was Naren married to Pari when Ankita found out about her Pregnancy?
I thought Ankita was still Naren's Wife when she found out about being Pregnant. Didn't Naren and Pari just get married last week? There was no marriage to save.

Purvi an UnWed Mother, Pregnant from a Man who was married to her sister and she left Mumbai without telling anyone about her pregnancy because it would destroy her whole family.

Yes, both Purvi and Ankita are foolish girls but their situations are different.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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The day Ankita told Naren about her pregnancy , he lost his memory after he saw Pari ...
Since then he has no memory of anytime he spend with Ankita ...Ankita knew how much Pari meant to him , she actually thought tht Pari had died .She knew from the time she found out that Pari was alive , that her marriage with Naren was over . She knew that two people who wanted to be with each other and have a potentially good marriage could be with each other if she quietly steps out of their way which she did ...
Ankita was not exactly in a normal married life situation ...
I know that the situations are not identical but the reason why they left cities were the same ..That is my opinion as I saw things ..I have respect for both the girls and felt bad for them .Hope Ankitas finds peace and happiness in life
Edited by Tanyaz - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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My two cents- the situations are not a hundred percent match but the basic essence is the same:


1.) Both Ankita-Purvi hid their pregnancies and went away when they were pregnant, so that another couple could stay happy and to avoid public humiliation. In Purvi's case: Ovi-Arjun's marriage (who weren't really happy in the marriage and at one point, both of them had given up but Purvi convinced Arjun to go back even though knowing she was pregnant), in Ankita's case: Naren-Pari's love (who loved each other but Pari wasn't willing to marry Naren by snatching someone else's rights, so Ankita lied to unite both of them, and continued to lie in the future too).

2.) Both Ankita and Purvi weren't selfish and thought of others, but their decisions weren't perfect. Purvi tried to save a marriage of two people who were unhappy in the marriage (especially Arjun who never loved Ovi) and such relationships can crack anytime, Ankita is trying to bring a couple together who love each other and want to be together, but by hiding truths- Naren doesn't know about his past yet and neither does Pari.

3.) Both the situations could have been sorted out better if the characters had told the truth on time, but the creatives love to complicate things and mess up with storylines.

Please don't bash me now, and please let's mutually agree to disagree if you don't agree with the above. :)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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You know I just don't understand why there is an outrage at me bringing up Arjun/Purvi/Ovi's scenario here.

I am simply drawing or attempting to draw parallels between the characters of the SAME show.

I wasn't being disrespectful. I wasn't calling names to any character. I wasn't bashing or being hateful toward any character.

I simply do not understand why my points were viewed as "dragging" Purvi here. Purvi, Ankita, Pari, Ovi, Naren, Arjun are all characters of the SAME show. We are bound to compare and contrast between them.

I have stated my opinion in a respectful manner. I should not have to be labelled as a person who is "dragging" other character's name as if I said horrendous things about the said characters. I guess this is why I stopped coming here as many posts are taken and interpreted as extreme.

I never stated the two situations are exactly the same. Of course they aren't. Yet, there are some elements of similarities between the two.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: style14


Purvi and Ankita's situations are completely DIFFERENT.
Purvi left Mumbai cause she was an UNWED Mother to be. She didn't want her family to face any humiliation on her account and didn't want to bring problems in Arjun-Ovi's marriage. Leaving Mumbai and moving to Kolkota (not Banaras) was Purvi's decision.
Ankita was Naren's WEDDED WIFE.
People were outraged at Ovi for other reasons which I won't repeat right now because this Thread is about Naren,Ankita and Pari.

TM sorry for bringing in Arvi and Ovi in this topic but I had to reply as Purvi and Ankita's situations are completely different and cannot be compared.



Hello, I understand your POV. As I said in my original post, I do not believe the two situations are the same. I do believe there are certain things similar in both cases.

My main objective was to draw comparisons between Ankita and Purvi's motivations for leaving the city.

I do believe that both tried to leave for similar (NOT EXACT) but similar reasons. Both didn't want to come in the way of someone else's love or someone else's marriage. Both were pregnant. The paternity of both characters' offspring wasn't completely 100% clarified to the father.

All I am saying is if we're calling one character selfish or one character sacrificial, I think we should call both of them the same thing. Both Ankita and Purvi didn't prioritize the well being of their babies as they took off alone in the world without money or resources to provide for the baby. Both didn't inform the father of their babies when they left.

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