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Dabulls23

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Posted: 11 years ago

#61

Originally posted by: persistence-win
Yes Purvi Didn't physically swapped the baby-Agreed But she Abetted and Instigated Onir to commit that Offence and according to Sec-107,108 of IPC Abetment of the Offence is Also an Offence. Purvi Abetted and Instigated Onir in Commission (Actus reas) of the offence with the Intention (Mens Rea) of committing that Offence, Hence it ticks all boxes to constitute it as an Offence. I know many people here ight not be versed with Legal Knowledge But that doesn't change the Law! Right? and Ignorance of Law is No Excuse- I am not saying this Law does.

PW

Not only that the whole Purvi asking Onir to swapp babies was captured on servailance tape. SO she is really the main culprit and Onir was in reality the accessory to the crime though he went jail time, med license taken away and MMLA Purvi got scot free...Here we have people throwing legal terms to excuse all Purvi's kaands..

I am only Quoting you and not others as I have no intention of debating with anyone..I write my views and not here to convince anyone..

Old stories are not repeated and taken topic away from Ovi but the facts are written abt Purvi and her kaands...😊

Great posts PW...

Edited by Dabulls23 - 11 years ago

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pallavi25

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Posted: 11 years ago

#62

Onir did NOT get jail term, he was in jail for a few days after being arrested on those charges BEFORE the trial but he was ACQUITTED in court later of all those charges... but he lost his licence because he betrayed his medical ethics!

Onir did not go to jail, nor did Purvi...they returned to the chawl and left Sulo's house.

When the Deshmukh family against whom the so called "crime" was committed, doesnt want to pursue charges against them, then how could a third person, real criminal Mittal get them convicted of baby swap?

Judge had to drop the charges against them as Deshmukhs themselves called it an act of "good intentions!"

Again turning the topic away from Ovi and towards Purvi and her 22 yr old purana actions! 😆

We are discussing the present PR in this thread!

Ovi shd just go and tell Purvi herself instead of begging Arjun to tell her! Why is so spineless where Arjun is concerned? Cant she decide for herself and speak out herself?

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 11 years ago

#63

The tape implicates her as the master mind . Declared as a criminal , she would go in for a jail sentence and her own baby would be taken away by social securities declaring her absolutely unfit to handle ANY babies . She would be regarded as some maniac woman who deals with babies thinking she has a right to do ANYTHING to them and their life . Fact . Brushed away hurriedly in PR . Just as Onir's license was given back after a short stint , Purvi's punishment was staying in a chawl in a red light area for a few months and even then it was shown as if it was a big injustice to the woman who had 'noble intentions' . Truth is she was a criminal who used men and traded babies and got off with false talks and copious weep weep sessions .

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MidnightRambler

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Posted: 11 years ago

#64

Originally posted by: pallavi25
Onir did NOT get jail term, he was in jail for a few days after being arrested on those charges BEFORE the trial but he was ACQUITTED in court later of all those charges... but he lost his licence because he betrayed his medical ethics!
Onir did not go to jail, nor did Purvi...they returned to the chawl and left Sulo's house.

When the Deshmukh family against whom the so called "crime" was committed, doesnt want to pursue charges against them, then how could a third person, real criminal Mittal get them convicted of baby swap?
Judge had to drop the charges against them as Deshmukhs themselves called it an act of "good intentions!"
Again turning the topic away from Ovi and towards Purvi and her 22 yr old purana actions! 😆
We are discussing the present PR in this thread!
Ovi shd just go and tell Purvi herself instead of begging Arjun to tell her! Why is so spineless where Arjun is concerned? Cant she decide for herself and speak out herself?

Are you kidding?! Ovi should reveal ARJUN's illness to others?! It's Arjun who is terminally ill! It's his private information! No one but him has the right to tell others about his condition!

Since the topic of medical ethics keeps coming up, then let me tell you autonomy is one of the most important principles of medical ethics. Autonomy is the wish of the patient to choose the course of his treatment, to decide how he/she proceeds, and whom he/she wants to disclose the truth to!

Ovi has no obligation whatsoever to go to Purvi and tell her the truth. That is Arjun's CHOICE! I cannot believe now conveniently Ovi is expected to tell the everything to Purvi.

What Ovi should do is say ENOUGH! to Arjun and stop participating in this pretense! Ovi is wrong here. However, she is wrong for going along with Arjun's idea and putting up this charade. She is NOT wrong because she isn't revealing the truth to Purvi herself.

Edited by ChemistryMajor - 11 years ago

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Bushra

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Posted: 11 years ago

#65

Originally posted by: pallavi25
The Judge in PR gave the verdict that whatever Onir and Purvi did was done with "good intentions" only. So it wasnt a criminal act!
So he let Onir and Purvi BOTH of them go free...no imprisonment for either of them! But Onir lost his licence because he had acted against his medical ethics! He had betrayed doctor- patient faith/trust!

So it wasnt as if Onir was jailed and Purvi got away scot free...BOTH were acquitted of the "crime" of baby swapping because of good intentions! Sachin argued the case as their lawyer, he said the baby swap was a Deshmukh family matter, where Onir-Purvi wanted to do good for Ovi.
So however much the forumwasis want Purvi to go to jail, that didnt happen in actual PR, nor was Onir jailed for that matter! Because even the judge found them not guilty!

Anyway, this post is abt Ovi and I agree with TM! Ovi has finally accepted that it was she who set the ball rolling 22 yrs ago (THE DEAL) that has caused all the damage through the years! If she had not coveted a man who didnt love her, if she had not snatched him from Purvi by blackmail, then none of this would have ever happened!
Just as Purvi has also accepted that she was wrong in misunderstanding Arjun and not giving him a chance to explain 20 years ago! That is why shes trying so HARD to know why Arjun is suddenly behaving so strangely. This time she is determined to know the truth so she doesnt make the same mistake again!

Hi Pallavi here people want to discuss their laws how ever i just discuss what show in the serial
and the serial they show this action with good intention so its not crime which they prove in show.
Purvi learn from her mistake so this time she is not ready to do the same mistake again and try to find the truth. But Ovi not learn so she is doing the same she did before.

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MidnightRambler

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Posted: 11 years ago

#66

LOL Yes yes...Purvi sure learned her lesson 20 YEARS LATER. Yep, some growth.

And Ovi did learn her from her mistake! Her mistake was to think Arjun the shameless could love her and she realized that she was wrong. She suffered enough as her marriage failed and lost her first baby.

She realized that she had no future with Arjun so SHE left him. And that doofus still wanted to "work on his marriage with Ovi" all the while salivating and panting after Purvi.

Ovi and Onir are the ones who led to the ArVi marriage as these two immature so-called lovers could not even fight for their love. Onir had to put up a charade and Ovi also helped him get them back together.

Ovi is blamed for separating the premis first marriage. Okay fine but she also rectified it by getting them married! Ignoring it won't make it go away. She hasn't taken "theka" of looking after Arjun/Purvi's marriage and relation. It's up to THEM to stay together with each other.

Ovi has apologized and apologized for her mistakes and actually TOOK ACTIONS to fix them. Yet, I will still admit that she is wrong to go along with Arjun right now.

As for Purvi, I have yet to see Purvi apologize for depriving Ovi of mourning for her stillborn.
I have yet to see Purvi say SORRY ONCE to Ovi for driving a wedge between her and her parents. Purvi hasn't shown an oune of guilt over the destruction she has caused and that is why her chants of "good intentions and bhalayi" ring so hollow! It's a facade she hides behind.

And Arjun...the less I say about that scum of a guy the better.

Edited by ChemistryMajor - 11 years ago

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Md. Ashfaqur rahman

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Posted: 11 years ago

#67

Is ovi any time mourn her dead baby?

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Candylicious

@Candylicious

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Posted: 11 years ago

#68

Yes Purvi Didn't physically swapped the baby-Agreed But she Abetted and Instigated Onir to commit that Offence and according to Sec-107,108 of IPC Abetment of the Offence is Also an Offence. Purvi Abetted and Instigated Onir in Commission (Actus reas) of the offence with the Intention (Mens Rea) of committing that Offence, Hence it ticks all boxes to constitute it as an Offence. I know many people here ight not be versed with Legal Knowledge But that doesn't change the Law! Right? and Ignorance of Law is No Excuse- I am not saying this Law does.

I didn't know a person can be found guilty of an offence by citing sections under IPC. Easy work for the prosecutions and all criminal defense lawyers will be out of job. You have cited Section 107 & 108 IPC for abetment. Have the elements of abetment been proven against Purvi? Yes Purvi did instigated Onir to swap the baby, however did Purvi "did anything positive" to help Onir in committing the offence within the meaning of Section 107 IPC. In the course of my practice I have learned that by saying, giving idea, suggesting, encourages can't be held responsible for abetment of the commission of the offence. This is my view and I don't expect anyone to agree with my opinion. I rest my case.

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Candylicious

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Posted: 11 years ago

#69

Originally posted by: pallavi25
Onir did NOT get jail term, he was in jail for a few days after being arrested on those charges BEFORE the trial but he was ACQUITTED in court later of all those charges... but he lost his licence because he betrayed his medical ethics!
Onir did not go to jail, nor did Purvi...they returned to the chawl and left Sulo's house.

When the Deshmukh family against whom the so called "crime" was committed, doesnt want to pursue charges against them, then how could a third person, real criminal Mittal get them convicted of baby swap?

Judge had to drop the charges against them as Deshmukhs themselves called it an act of "good intentions!"

Again turning the topic away from Ovi and towards Purvi and her 22 yr old purana actions! 😆

We are discussing the present PR in this thread!

Ovi shd just go and tell Purvi herself instead of begging Arjun to tell her! Why is so spineless where Arjun is concerned? Cant she decide for herself and speak out herself?

@Pallavi you are absolutely right Onir was in the police station lock up for few days to assist in police investigation because he was suspected for being involved in organ trafficking and this was conspired by Mittal. For baby swapping Onir's medical license was suspended because it was against his medical ethics. But what to do we cannot expect all to differentiate these two scenarios.

Edited by rkis - 11 years ago

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Candylicious

@Candylicious

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Posted: 11 years ago

#70

@Muaaz, I am sorry for discussing law points here I know I should not do that because not everyone knows about legal matters. I read a comment here where by that person have cited Sections under IPC and this prompted me to state my comment based on law. I am also sorry for going off topic from your original topic.

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