Ovi Acceptance ! DT Note pg11

onirfans

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Posted: 11 years ago

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and one question is she exchange baby bcz pari is her and arjun,s daughter in that way pari will be get her real father's name...and claim its for ovi's bhalayei...could she did same if pari was onir and her daughter then she could gave pari to ovi for ovi's bhalayei...no never then why its claim for ovi's bhalayei...

That is ur imagination because in serial they not shown Purvi think herself or sharing onir that she gave the baby to ovi to give the name of arjun. As for if pari was onir and her daughter then she could gave pari to ovi for ovi's bhalaye then my ans is yes whatever they show Purvi

nature she did the same.

its not my imagination she herself told to onir that in this way pari will be get her real father's name and will be happy with arjun..after swapping she told onir and thought what she did right ...and before swapping when she tried to conveince onir for baby swapping she told its for ovi's bhalyei , he should help her for ovi's betterment ...

and if pari was onir and her daughter then may be this type situation never could come...bcz in this way she had no fear that someone will be learn about her wrong step so if she want to betterment of ovi then she will be do in front of others and with full knowledge of ovi ( if not ovi then deffo full knowledge of other member ...how can she left a situation to make herself mahan...)

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onirfans

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Ofter donation if she think she get arjun name its not shown she do this just because pari get arjun name in first she just give her daughter to Ovi for her betterment. which betterment she knew if ovi will be know the truth she will be breakdown that pari is sign of purvi and arjun child , she will be feel betrayal but she did...if she really worried for pari's right then why not she told everyone the truth before leaving mumbai , why not when ovi asked about this and even she knew still than arovi r not consumate but she afraid that ovi suspect her and if everyone will be learn she was pregnant before marriage , she did not tell truth and hide the real reason behind leaving mumbai and blame for ovi insecure she left mumbai which was totally false...she herself somany time told that to onir and also in her mind...her hiding nature put so many lifes in hell specially innocent babies pari and arovi's first child ( i hv no sympathy towards ovi and arjun bcz they also eqally blame for deal marriage)

Ya same as if Ovi not come with this deal these all thing never happen including baby issue.. And for the 2nd point i give my view already in last post.

ya same situation ovi put a deal infront of her in unconscious mind ( who is actually played by punni who took advantage of ovi's unconscious stage) ...but what about her why she choosed the deal when she has so many others option for her mother's happiness and easily she could did that but not she choosed the path which is showed by mad ovi...and also what happened with arjun why he accepted ovi after knowing about deal...what type of respect of arjun towards woman that he agree to do such a wrong step ...

at least ovi was straightforward and nothing hide to everyone in this deal but why purvi keep quit to ovi about her physicla relationship with arjun...she could tell the truth then its ovi's choice if she really wanted to fullfill deal but not she hide it...if she could tell truth about ovi to manav then never be happened and could save the three lifes ...if she could tell truth about false sign to teju or vandu or damodar or anyone else of her family if could not tell the truth to manav bcz archana's word and could not tell the truth infront of court bcz of sachin after then she has so many option and arjun also told her they will be go in that way ...but no...she choosed the way of dealing to be become mad...

i think in pr all r mad...

ovi mad for arjun

archana mad for purvi

arjun mad for purvi

varsa mad for soham

soham mad for gauri

damodar mad for wine

savita mad for fighting

sulochana mad for lecture

punni mad for money

manju mad for tanturm

manav mad for business and his stubborn

sachin mad for his ambition

teju mad for her pagalpanti

and purvi mad for to become mahan....thats not matter how this madness affected others and how become critical their lives

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sweet_tania

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: muaaz

Ya same as if Ovi not come with this deal these all thing never happen including baby issue.. And for the 2nd point i give my view already in last post.

For Blue :- lol as u said about ovi's deal than must say this is the main difference between ovi and purvi...ovi had thrown that deal on purvi's face...as a ideal daughter purvi choose archana over arjun ...ovi become bad becoz she has thrown that deal on purvi's face not on back and purvi become bhalayi queen become becoz she has done on the spot exchange planning on ovi's back not by convincing ovi...if she has not enough ability to convince ovi for her bhalayi than she should drop her exchange idea.

if everytime you use other's hand to fulfill your good motive and other's identity to hide ur mistake from world than nd only than you can maintain ur good image in front of world otherwise world comes to know about your mistake and your golden motives.

It takes guts and courage to do something on the face whether it is good or bad...purvi has that guts ,courage and ability to do anything on face???? answer and result all knows here...

PS :- of course this is my point of you which is right for me nd not at all expecting that it should be right for others too...as its public forum so sharing my views.. not for convincing others for it...

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Bushra

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: sweet_tania

Ya same as if Ovi not come with this deal these all thing never happen including baby issue.. And for the 2nd point i give my view already in last post.

For Blue :- lol as u said about ovi's deal than must say this is the main difference between ovi and purvi...ovi had thrown that deal on purvi's face...as a ideal daughter purvi choose archana over arjun ...ovi become bad becoz she has thrown that deal on purvi's face not on back and purvi become bhalayi queen become becoz she has done on the spot exchange planning on ovi's back not by convincing ovi...if she has not enough ability to convince ovi for her bhalayi than she should drop her exchange idea.

if everytime you use other's hand to fulfill your good motive and other's identity to hide ur mistake from world than nd only than you can maintain ur good image in front of world otherwise world comes to know about your mistake and your golden motives.

It takes guts and courage to do something on the face whether it is good or bad...purvi has that guts ,courage and ability to do anything on face???? answer and result all knows here...

PS :- of course this is my point of you which is right for me nd not at all expecting that it should be right for others too...as its public forum so sharing my views.. not for convincing others for it...

Ovi is so much open and straight forward its the result she make first marriage no one know from the family . She is pregenent in 2nd time no one know from the family she never hide anything . she really have a guts. She use other to make her wish fulfill like merry to arjun the biggest and only wish of her life.

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onirfans

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Ovi is so much open and straight forward its the result she make first marriage no one know from the family . She is pregenent in 2nd time no one know from the family she never hide anything . she really have a guts. She use other to make her wish fulfill like merry to arjun the biggest and only wish of her life.

ovi did not hide about her first marriage. and also about deal...archana and sulochana knew all things but they did not tell manav in proper time and also not try to protect ovi when they knew ovi was in imbalance stage and try to harm herself in depression...what she wanted she clearly told to purvi but purvi hide it to arjun which is unware to ovi...and she was in thought she lost arjun and suddenly purvi called her for marriage but after marriage she was told all of things to everyone what she did even about deal also ...she did not pretend to good ...she told everything and also before marriage all family members knew about her wish and her situation... she only hide about her 2nd pregnancy when her family itself suffered with so many problems...she could not able to share her problem with her family...

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litty thomas

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Posted: 11 years ago

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love ovi and sruthi...just want everything to clear out between ovi purvi and arjun

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persistence-win

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: rkis

You have cited Section 317 & Section 318 IPC and your question what argument is available in defense of Purvi? Yes baby swapping is a crime. The question is have this crime been proven against Purvi and Onir? The elements of a crime (i) actus reus (the act) and (ii) mens rea (the intention) have these elements of crime been proven against Purvi and Onir?

Purvi - did she commit the act of swapping the baby? Did she perform the act of swapping Ovi's dead baby? The answer is no, so the first element of crime is missing. Did she have the intention to swap the baby? It was her idea, the answer is yes. The second element is fulfilled? To prove the crime both elements need to be full field and proven, here in Purvi's case one element to prove the crime is missing, that is the act. So is there a prima facie case against Purvi? From my legal back ground the answer is No. Do Purvi need a defense here my answer is No.

Onir - did he commit the act of swapping the baby? Onir being in the medical profession he is aware that it is against his medical ethics to swap the baby. Yet he went ahead performed the act of swapping the dead baby. He committed the act of swapping and disposing off the dead baby, so the answer is Yes, the first element of crime is fulfilled. Did he have the intention to swap the baby? It was not his idea, even though it was not his idea he is aware that it is wrong and against his medical ethics to swap the baby. Onir performed the act with the intention of swapping the dead baby because he was aware of what he is doing and he also knows the consequences of it. The second element of crime is fulfilled. Both elements of crime exist and a prima facie case against Onir can be proven beyond reasonable doubt.

As for argument of good intention is from laypeople and bear in mind here not all possess legal knowledge or from legal back ground. Without applying any legal knowledge I would also say whatever Purvi did was without any intention of malice.

Yes Purvi Didn't physically swapped the baby-Agreed But she Abetted and Instigated Onir to commit that Offence and according to Sec-107,108 of IPC Abetment of the Offence is Also an Offence. Purvi Abetted and Instigated Onir in Commission (Actus reas) of the offence with the Intention (Mens Rea) of committing that Offence, Hence it ticks all boxes to constitute it as an Offence. I know many people here ight not be versed with Legal Knowledge But that doesn't change the Law! Right? and Ignorance of Law is No Excuse- I am not saying this Law does.

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pallavi25

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Posted: 11 years ago

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The Judge in PR gave the verdict that whatever Onir and Purvi did was done with "good intentions" only. So it wasnt a criminal act!

So he let Onir and Purvi BOTH of them go free...no imprisonment for either of them! But Onir lost his licence because he had acted against his medical ethics! He had betrayed doctor- patient faith/trust!

So it wasnt as if Onir was jailed and Purvi got away scot free...BOTH were acquitted of the "crime" of baby swapping because of good intentions! Sachin argued the case as their lawyer, he said the baby swap was a Deshmukh family matter, where Onir-Purvi wanted to do good for Ovi.

So however much the forumwasis want Purvi to go to jail, that didnt happen in actual PR, nor was Onir jailed for that matter! Because even the judge found them not guilty!

Anyway, this post is abt Ovi and I agree with TM! Ovi has finally accepted that it was she who set the ball rolling 22 yrs ago (THE DEAL) that has caused all the damage through the years! If she had not coveted a man who didnt love her, if she had not snatched him from Purvi by blackmail, then none of this would have ever happened!

Just as Purvi has also accepted that she was wrong in misunderstanding Arjun and not giving him a chance to explain 20 years ago! That is why shes trying so HARD to know why Arjun is suddenly behaving so strangely. This time she is determined to know the truth so she doesnt make the same mistake again!

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persistence-win

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Posted: 11 years ago

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The Less said about the Court Cases of Pr and those Law-Deprived Judges the better. Soham after Kidnapping Purvi, Shooting Arjun and causing Grievous Hurt, Pointing gun at Archana causing Her to slip into Coma- all this Crimes would in Ordinary state of affairs would land him in Jail for atleast 10 yrs! But what quantum of punishment did he got- 1 yr and a Peanut fine. Regarding ArMan divorce case Forcing people to live together against their wishes only to save their Pathetic marriage- Was another example of Law-abiding Case of Pr. So regarding the authenticity of Judges of Pr! They are just Bullshit. I am not surprised that they didn't reward Onir and Purvi for their 'Sacrifices'! Let the Law Go to Hell.

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Tejaswini Wenham

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: persistence-win
The Less said about the Court Cases of Pr and those Law-Deprived Judges the better. Soham after Kidnapping Purvi, Shooting Arjun and causing Grievous Hurt, Pointing gun at Archana causing Her to slip into Coma- all this Crimes would in Ordinary state of affairs would land him in Jail for atleast 10 yrs! But what quantum of punishment did he got- 1 yr and a Peanut fine. Regarding ArMan divorce case Forcing people to live together against their wishes only to save their Pathetic marriage- Was another example of Law-abiding Case of Pr. So regarding the authenticity of Judges of Pr! They are just Bullshit. I am not surprised that they didn't reward Onir and Purvi for their 'Sacrifices'! Let the Law Go to Hell.

you can do that- not force them to live together but stay together in a shared residence or a formal arrangement where they would have to interact and seek therapy and resolution provided that the marriage is young (less than 3 years or so) and the judge feels like they just need to give the marriage a chance. NOT when you've been married for nearly 25 years and separated for about 18 years, living in two different countries. thats just ridiculous. they should've been granted the divorce readily. in pr law changes according to convenience. ovi and arjuns divorce, onir purvi's divorce and arjun purvi's divorce should have been at least a year to a year and a half length process. but no, they can just sign a paper and the marriage is dissolved.

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