Arjun is not innocent!Final warning pg15 - Page 10

Created

Last reply

Replies

112

Views

12k

Users

27

Likes

369

Frequent Posters

sweet_tania thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 11 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: pallavi25


Purvi Kolkata move hui thi...dont u remember? 😲 She went to Kolkata because living in Mumbai would bring her face to face with despo Ovi and suffering Arjun. Purvi married Onir there and was living quite happily but Arjun arrived at her door...for Dr. Onir...because crazy Ovi was trying to kill her baby with alcohol. So it was all Ovi's fault that Arjun had to go to Kolkata to get the best gynae in India. Then ArMaan came and begged Purvi to bring Onir to Mumbai for crazy Ovi's treatment! So Purvi listened to her parents...after Ovi was fixed she wanted to go back to Kolkata but Onir refused as he was already working in Mumbai and going after Mittal for organ trafficking.
Just extrapolating and making up stories just to say vulgar things abt Purvi is not the way to debate in a sensible manner.


Originally posted by: nikki1591

when ovi after getting married arjun basically forced purvi to move to kolkata and basically blackmailed her mother into kicking pregnant purvi out of her house and into sulchana, how nobody bashed ovi then. did purvi not need her family then? especially when she was pregnant. oh but i forget it is only ovi emotional needs that matter.
she probably didnt tell him bc she wanted to give alcohol as medication to her child and if she told arjun he would disaprove😆😆


This is what nikki's point pallavi...

regarding my reply...my reply was on the basis of purvi come to mumbai on the name of ovi's treatment...if you talking regarding purvi's first time visit to kolkata than my reply should be another as m not forget anything...

ovi after getting married arjun basically forced purvi to move to kolkata

pregnancy forced purvi to move to kolkata...not ovi... kuwari maa kya jawab deti aai ko???? Bhag gai thi kolkata ...married arjun ko bata nai sakti thi yaa kuch bataya nahi...kuwari maa kya jawab deti samaj ko??? for that reason she said yes to onir...purvi forced herself to move to kolkata becoz kuwari maa ban gai thi...i think you forgot this things...kuwari maa and nayan matka word is bitter truth of purvi...not vulgar language...first check meaning of vulger word if you are not knowing anything about it than...

blackmailed her mother into kicking pregnant purvi out of her house

if nikki is talking about post wedding scene of punir in mumbai than my nayan matka with ovi reply was not wrong that no wife can tolerate her husband's nayan matka with her husband...

if nikki is talking about kuwari maa purvi just after ovi's wedding than at that time neighter ovi nor archana was knowing about pregnancy...than how can ovi blackmail mother to kick out pregnant purvi from the house????

pallavi first understand for which point nikki1591 is talking about...after that read my reply again and that come to conclusion...now i have replied you for both the scenario by quoting nikki's reply...regarding vulger words than for once google first what is vulger words...nayan matka means eye contact nd kuwari maa can't be consider as vulger language...nd ya first understand reply is for which point and by which sense...becoz with misunderstanding sensible argument can appear as dumb reply for that person who is having misunderstand.
Edited by sweet_tania - 11 years ago
pallavi25 thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Trailblazer Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 11 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: sweet_tania



pallavi first understand for which point nikki1591 is talking about...after that read my reply again and that come to conclusion...now i have replied you for both the scenario by quoting nikki's reply...regarding vulger words than for once google first what is vulger words...nayan matka means eye contact nd kuwari maa can't be consider as vulger language...nd ya first understand reply is for which point and by which sense...becoz with misunderstanding sensible argument can appear as dumb reply for that person who is having misunderstand.


Nikki was referring to... after Ovi Arjun marriage Purvi moved to Kolkata...so my reply is abt that...perhaps u didnt understand what Nikki and I both said?
Didnt I say Purvi moved to get away from Ovi and Arjun...so what did I say wrong?
Nayan Matka and kunwari maa are objectionable words. Because both are incorrect. When Pari was born Purvi was married to Onir...so kunwari maa doesnt apply to her. Im sure even if Onir didnt marry her, she would have managed fine.. There may be children of such mothers on this forum so we shd not be so judgemental abt unmarried motherhood.
Nayan Matka is not a crime...as far as I know...if people who love each other look at each other, thats not a crime.They cannot help it...and eye contact doesnt just imply lust, it can be sadness, regrets, memories of old times. It depends on how one looks at it!

sweet_tania thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 11 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: pallavi25


Nikki was referring to... after Ovi Arjun marriage Purvi moved to Kolkata...so my reply is abt that...perhaps u didnt understand what Nikki and I both said?
Didnt I say Purvi moved to get away from Ovi and Arjun...so what did I say wrong?
Nayan Matka and kunwari maa are objectionable words. Because both are incorrect. When Pari was born Purvi was married to Onir...so kunwari maa doesnt apply to her. Im sure even if Onir didnt marry her, she would have managed fine.. There may be children of such mothers on this forum so we shd not be so judgemental abt unmarried motherhood.
Nayan Matka is not a crime...as far as I know...if people who love each other look at each other, thats not a crime.They cannot help it...and eye contact doesnt just imply lust, it can be sadness, regrets, memories of old times. It depends on how one looks at it!


i have used that word only for purvi...never think that this can be applicable to any forum member too...nd i don want hurt any member's feeling for reel character..so next time will surely careful for this word...

up till my understanding..if pregnancy happened due to pre marital sex than one can consider as kuwari maa...in this case comes in picture after few months of pregnancy...nd yaa without onir she can may be managed but truth is in india or kolkata such type of child who is not having father's surname is facing so many questions for their origin nd mother's character...she must be very lucky by having person like onir who protects her dignity nd self respect from samaj...still if you want than for purvi's dignity we can't say her kuwari maa but for me its reality...

i have never said nayan matka is crime...or its full of lust or anything like that...my point is its really can't tolerable situation when for whatever reason your husband is doing this with any other woman in front of you...woman can't share her husband with anyone...nd can't tolerate nayan matkas too...true said...its up to person...every women is not soft hearted that they tolerate such things in front of their eyes...
pallavi25 thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Trailblazer Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 11 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: sweet_tania


i have used that word only for purvi...never think that this can be applicable to any forum member too...nd i don want hurt any member's feeling for reel character..so next time will surely careful for this word...

up till my understanding..if pregnancy happened due to pre marital sex than one can consider as kuwari maa...in this case comes in picture after few months of pregnancy...nd yaa without onir she can may be managed but truth is in india or kolkata such type of child who is not having father's surname is facing so many questions for their origin nd mother's character...she must be very lucky by having person like onir who protects her dignity nd self respect from samaj...still if you want than for purvi's dignity we can't say her kuwari maa but for me its reality...

i have never said nayan matka is crime...or its full of lust or anything like that...my point is its really can't tolerable situation when for whatever reason your husband is doing this with any other woman in front of you...woman can't share her husband with anyone...nd can't tolerate nayan matkas too...true said...its up to person...every women is not soft hearted that they tolerate such things in front of their eyes...


Thanks for understanding the feelings of others who may be hurt.
The part of Kolkata where I come from, people dont bother abt such things anymore...people are more modern and accepting as far as these things are concerned. Maybe 20-30 yrs ago they would have made a hungama abt it but times have changed completely.
I agree no woman/wife would accept that...thats why Purvi also left Arjun and stayed away from him for 20 yrs...because she found out he had a child with Ovi and was actually living with her in Canada during that time.
Ovi shd have realized long back that she can force Arjun to marry her but she cannot force his heart to forget Purvi.

beautifulchaos thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
#95

that is partly a reason as to why Adult Pari hates Arjun at the age of 21.

adult pari is not having any reason to hate arjun now infact as a daughter she should feel bad that ohh god..for this many years i am hating my father without reason ...its a feeling which should be beyond hateness...specially her aaji is explaining her everything whom she can trust easily...regarding how suddenly she can accept this truth than... if she can't accept it than also she should not give statements like uss adami k pass aai nai jayegi wapis nd all...after knowing everything either she should keep quite or should ry to understand... if after knowing also she is not ready to accept father than i can understand why arjun was having ego nd failed to convince her from this many years...whenever he tries to talk on call ..she was just doing bakwas only.after watching adult pari's behave i can't say its 50-50 fault. arjun is also at fault for not visiting canada nd only just calling her but kid pari nd adult pari is more at fault specially adult pari...

Interesting how the discussion has now shifted into how Pari is at fault from how Arjun is not innocent. Let it be so then... Well, adult Pari has the history of living for 21 years without her father. And now if his truth is out then she would naturally be more angry because the first thought that would cross her mind is "Why didn't he try to reach me if he was innocent?" and we cannot expect her to have a turnaround of her heart just like that...

I recall are said once to child Pari and secondly to adult Pari. This means she was trying to make her daughter talk with her father across ages

Again m saying... beta papa se call par baat karo acche se...ase pari jaise bacche nai mante..

there was problem between husband and wife ..not between father and daughter... daughter was with purvi...purvi was knowing that daughter is not talking with father on call...she was knowing that her hateness will give negative effect on her mind than why never try to arrange meeting of daughter and father??? her hateness was for arjun..nd watever trauma scenario u r explaining..can agree on it..so she should not invite arjun to meet herself or call for herself for her self respect...as per her..arjun betrayed her not pari...nd pari was not adult that she can call her father by herself nd can fix meeting with father...but purvi was there with her . for ovi's matter she should not call arjun for her self respect but she can fix meeting of father-daughter nd by doing that she will not her self respect/ego anything.as male is supirior not female ego.

arjun made mistake for his ego which was hurted by his every attempt nd dats why he never meet pari...same way by not calling arjun for pari's sake...purvi made mistake for her self respect nd ego both but her ego was never hurted becoz she had never given any chance to arjun... ek ne ego k liye beti ko contact karna chod diya or dusri ne ego/self respect k liye beti ka kabhi contact nai karvaya.

@ Bold : Exactly.. The problem was between husband and wife, not between father and daughter. So it was Arjun's responsibility to reach out to his daughter as his daughter was with Purvi in another country. And when she left, Pari was just a toddler, not a grown up child who could refuse to call and talk to her father. Why didn't Arjun make any efforts then? And again as you have yourself said Pari was not an adult who could fix a meeting with her father, her father could. And in my opinion he should have fixed those meeting because his daughter, he knew was getting estranged from him.

I however agree that both are at fault for Pari's not contacting Arjun.. but even if Purvi was not doing so Arjun should have done it because he was at a bigger loss in not contacting his own flesh and blood...

one lie

For me...its not only about one lie...it shows your capacity of forgiveness and your inner strength...some people are this much sensitive that a single lie can be show worse effect on their mind nd can lose sense of understanding and some people are this much strong that they can handle themselves after number of lies too nd not going to loose their state of mind...this shows their inner strength of tolerating situation...that doesn't mean strong people should become used to of lies as weak peoples will going to show worst effect of lie.

Of course it is about capacity of forgiveness and inner strength and I don't blame Purvi if she could not muster enough inner strength to forgive Arjun for that one lie because the loss caused by it was big and life changing. And with Purvi it is damn if she does and damn if she doesn't. When she acts Mahaan, she is bashed and in this case she could not act Mahaan but chose to behave more humanly and she is expected to be Mahaan and forgive Arjun especially when Arjun had not tried enough to clear the misunderstanding between them.. Sorry, one cannot have one's cake and eat it too...

Edited by bitasta - 11 years ago
beautifulchaos thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: sweet_tania



Good point 😆

Bdw seriously arvi character is not nominated?????.. 😲

I thought zee is not having other stars like karan singh grover or rajat tokas or paridhi sharma or ankita lokhande...only they are using ARVI nd that too as seva..without mota mota checks..i thought zee bhi purvi ka fayda uth raha hai baki sab ki tarah...ohh poor soul.. 🤢

First of all this thread is to discuss how " Arjun is not innocent", not "Why Arvi or Ashvik for that matter were not nominated in ZRA". If one wants to discuss this matter, it can be done by opening another thread.
@ Bold : can you tell me who are those baki sab jinhone purvi ka fayda uthaya? I'm sure there is no need for google search to realize that it is an objectionable phrase...
Edited by bitasta - 11 years ago
sweet_tania thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 11 years ago
#97

Originally posted by: bitasta

First of all this thread is to discuss how " Arjun is not innocent", not "Why Arvi or Ashvik for that matter were not nominated in ZRA". If one wants to discuss this matter, it can be done by opening another thread.
@ Bold : can you tell me who are those baki sab jinhone purvi ka fayda uthaya? I'm sure there is no need for google search to realize that it is an objectionable phrase...




Originally posted by: ashfaque2012

Yes, yes yes. ovi only bechari. She is so innocent that why her idol Manav baba & savita tai also kick out forever. Very sad.😭😭😭


as u r reminding me name of post thats why m giving reminder to u that u should write this advice for this quoted post too..as reminder should be same for everyone.

blue:- lol...u better knows ...still deshmukh family,arjun,ovi,onir whole team of pavitra rishta ..sab bichari ka fayda he to uthate hai..😭..what is objectionable in this??? so many member have written that everyone is used to blackmail purvi emotionally...i have written same thing...bdw how its objectionable????😲
Edited by sweet_tania - 11 years ago
sweet_tania thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 11 years ago
#98

Of course it is about capacity of forgiveness and inner strength and I don't blame Purvi if she could not muster enough inner strength to forgive Arjun for that one lie because the loss caused by it was big and life changing. And with Purvi it is damn if she does and damn if she doesn't. When she acts Mahaan, she is bashed and in this case she could not act Mahaan but chose to behave more humanly and she is expected to be Mahaan and forgive Arjun especially when Arjun had not tried enough to clear the misunderstanding between them.. Sorry, one cannot have one's cake and eat it too...

Here there is nothing related to her mahanta ...conclusion was only one that its only in people's hand that how to deal with situation if dear once told them lie than...its not situation that only arjun had said one lie...there is also issues where purvi had told number of lies nd that lies were also related to someone's life...it was never casual lie...still dat one lie is only dragged here...there is number of attempts also from arjun's side more than arjun's lie...from purvi's side number of good intention lie is more than number of good output...arjun is not innocent but looking more innocent becoz m seeing no attempt of understanding from purvi's side.

I however agree that both are at fault for Pari's not contacting Arjun.. but even if Purvi was not doing so Arjun should have done it because he was at a bigger loss in not contacting his own flesh and blood...

I agree he was at bigger loss...for me ...its mother and father both should equally attempt but here both were busy in justifying their ego and self respect nd both were failed to think about their daughter. Father can be fail to arrange meeting with daughter due to male ego and mother too done same mistake..dats why arjun said "purvi its our ego"

adult Pari has the history of living for 21 years without her father. And now if his truth is out then she would naturally be more angry because the first thought that would cross her mind is "Why didn't he try to reach me if he was innocent?" and we cannot expect her to have a turnaround of her heart just like that...

Nope..as per pari's reaction..for a second also she had not thought like if my father was innocent than why he didn't try to reach me...her reaction was like aai should not trust on that man and she should not go back to that man..till now she never try to understand that arjun is innocent...purvi accepts it now but not pari..so we can't say that she has any feeling like why he never try to reach me as still she is not believing on purvi or archana's word.

Edited by sweet_tania - 11 years ago
sweet_tania thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 11 years ago
#99

Originally posted by: pallavi25


Thanks for understanding the feelings of others who may be hurt.
The part of Kolkata where I come from, people dont bother abt such things anymore...people are more modern and accepting as far as these things are concerned. Maybe 20-30 yrs ago they would have made a hungama abt it but times have changed completely.
I agree no woman/wife would accept that...thats why Purvi also left Arjun and stayed away from him for 20 yrs...because she found out he had a child with Ovi and was actually living with her in Canada during that time.
Ovi shd have realized long back that she can force Arjun to marry her but she cannot force his heart to forget Purvi.


Purvi also left Arjun and stayed away from him for 20 yrs...because she found out he had a child with Ovi and was actually living with her in Canada during that time.

purvi find out that arjun is having another daughter nd due to that trauma left husband,may be miscarriage also happen but she never try to find out that why arjun dump me??How can he do this wid me??..nothing...she simply accepted that arjun dump me after marriage...Great😕

Ovi shd have realized long back that she can force Arjun to marry her but she cannot force his heart to forget Purvi.
Agree...ovi had realized long back thats why participated in arvi's wedding nd accepted pari too...she will surely become reason of arvi's separation if pia's truth was out than...as per arjun's nature may he be can hide pia's truth to marry with purvi but surely puri will again sacrifice arjun as per her nature...hats off to ovi's smartness...she keep quite before and after arvi's marriage...but due to arjun's visit at ovi's home nd lie made their life miserable.
Edited by sweet_tania - 11 years ago
pallavi25 thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Trailblazer Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet_tania


Purvi also left Arjun and stayed away from him for 20 yrs...because she found out he had a child with Ovi and was actually living with her in Canada during that time.

purvi find out that arjun is having another daughter nd due to that trauma left husband,may be miscarriage also happen but she never try to find out that why arjun dump me??How can he do this wid me??..nothing...she simply accepted that arjun dump me after marriage...Great😕

Theres a common phrase, maybe u have heard it- Seeing is Believing!People dont believe something until they have seen it with their own eyes. Purvi saw it with her own eyes, Arjun was staying with Ovi and her baby, he was lying to her that he was in a meeting while sitting in the car with Ovi and Pia...so of course as his WIFE she will BELIEVE what she saw! If Ovi was the wife and she had seen this she would also have left Arjun forever and nobody would have blamed her for it...especially if she lost her unborn child from the trauma, this forum would be flooded with tears of sympathy for her. But just because this happened to Purvi shes supposed to find out why Arjun dumped her? Really? A betrayed wife who has visual proof of her husband's infidelity will try to find out why he did that? 😆 Is that even a question where marital infidelity is concerned? Oh my husband cheated on me...why did he do that?... Does that question make sense?

Ovi shd have realized long back that she can force Arjun to marry her but she cannot force his heart to forget Purvi.
Agree...ovi had realized long back thats why participated in arvi's wedding nd accepted pari too...she will surely become reason of arvi's separation if pia's truth was out than...as per arjun's nature may he be can hide pia's truth to marry with purvi but surely puri will again sacrifice arjun as per her nature...hats off to ovi's smartness...she keep quite before and after arvi's marriage...but due to arjun's visit at ovi's home nd lie made their life miserable.


Exactly! Arjun's stay at Ovi's place and his lie to Purvi even after knowing abt Pia was what made all 3 lives miserable! So we come back to topic again! Arjun is NOT INNOCENT! Hes equally responsible as Purvi for their misunderstanding. He could have done a lot of things to clear things up but he just made half hearted attempts, not really determined ones! Purvi was hurt and devastated so she would naturally be angry and unwilling to listen, but he being the guilty party shd have made her listen somehow.

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".