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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ameilia

''If Ovi was sympathized with for being lied and decieved then Purvi deserves that same sympathy otherwise it shows that one only felt sympathy for their favorite character because today it's being celebrated that purvi was lied and decieved. ''


I totally agree with this and was trying to even say the same.Purvi felt lied to and betrayed by Arjun because he did lie to her and she knew it.Same went for Ovi.But i guess here its not the reason why someone is grieving its who is grieving.


Again a major difference
Purvi always knew Arjun loves her
Ovi never knew that
So purvi can't actually assume that Arjun knew all along
Because Arjun always loved her
But ovi was always insecure about purvi
Purvi never even thought Arjun takes a second look at ovi
After all Arjun and purvi has gone through her trust is so fragile that she can just think Arjun was hiding about the baby all along 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sorry for jumping in, but I really want to reply to this!


Originally posted by: soniiyaa


What happened to Ovi cannot be compared to what happened to Purvi.

Ovi got it worse from what we seen so far.. but the story is yet to unfold. Besides, even though Ovi had her grief, it still doesn't mean Purvi's grief is any less. Being lied to is being lied to...no matter how much.

Agreed!

Purvi LIED about her baby being dead, and Ovi's baby being alive. The baby Ovi was holding WASNT hers it was of her husband with some other woman. NOTE : Arjun and Purvi were NOT married.

How does it this make it okay for Purvi to be lied to today? If you believe Ovi was treated badly by being lied to and decieved then why is it okay now that Purvi was lied to by Arjun?

It's not okay that Purvi is being lied to. I was disgusted at Arjun during today's episode when he lied that he was in a meeting. Why couldn't he say he'll call her later, or even tell her the truth that he's on the way home with Ovi right now? At least she would know he was telling the truth.

When Ovi found out, she THOUGHT Arjun and Purvi were having an affair.

Right now, Purvi may also be thinking Arovi is having an affair. Arjun lied about where he was. She saw him with Pia in his arms and ovi by his side. Saw them leaving together. What should Purvi make of this? perhaps purvi is THINKING Arovi are having an affair.

Yeah, I think she thinks that ArOvi are having an affair. But despite knowing about everything that Arjun has done for her, I don't know on what basis she's coming to this conclusion. Alright, fine, he lied to her on the phone, but that one little lie will make her jump to this conclusion? Don't get me wrong, a lie is a lie, and I hate lies too, but lying about where you are does not amount to cheating. Anyways, we'll see if she actually tries to clear her misunderstanding or if she just leaves. I'm getting a feeling that it may be the latter.

If Purvi has little bit of common sense then she would know this baby was conceived when Arjun and Ovi were married. She was the one who despite knowing she was pregnant , had REQUESTED Arjun to stay with Ovi.

yes, purvi did this. didn't ovi do the same by not informing arvi of Pia so Arvi could reunite etc? And you speak of common sense for Purvi... but didn't Ovi had COMMON SENSE when she THOUGHT arvi were having an affair? Why didn't she think Pari was conceived prior to Arovi marriage?

Purvi came to know about her pregnancy after ArOvi's marriage. But despite that, she asked Arjun to move on in life and sleep with Ovi. Okay, we will say that she wanted the best for ArOvi and wanted to see them happy. I'm actually not angry that she left the city either - I think it was very logical of her. But she came back during her pregnancy which suddenly made it seem like the most illogical thing to me. Did Ovi think that Pari was conceived post marriage? I'm pretty sure it was not even acknowledged in the show. I think she was mostly just hurt that she thought Pari was her own daughter and she felt betrayed that Arjun hid this from her. If this was brought up, then ArOvi got married a day after the conception of Pari, so it would be around the time of marriage. Plus, how would Ovi even think that Arjun and Purvi were sharing such an intimate relationship before marriage? Whereas in Ovi's case, it's normal for a husband-wife to share that level of intimacy.

Before jumping to conclusions about the affair, Purvi should at least think about it. The doctor gave her the age of the child, a perfect timeline. The conception of Pia clearly happened before the divorce. I understand the lie on the phone making her doubt Arjun, but doubting Arjun based on the baby's existence is in my opinion, illogical.

What would happen if Ovi told Arjun about the baby? Arjun would come back to her despite NOT loving her and always thinking about Purvi. Also, Arjun already had a baby with Purvi.

If Ovi had told Arjun then Arjun would have come back and the marriage would have sucked...but how do we know this? We don't because it didn't happen. We can only assume. Yes, Arvi had baby together but at least they weren't married yet and didn't conceive another child yet...but again these are what ifs. If purvi had told Arjun she was pregnant after Arovi marriage..then what could have happend? Ovi may have killed herself...who knows?

We've already seen how the marriage worked when ArOvi thought that Pari was Ovi's child. Just following the past trend, we can tell that the marriage would have been like before, more of a responsibility. Arjun wouldn't be happy, and neither would Ovi. If they weren't happy before, we have no reason to believe that they would suddenly be happy again. Yes, it is an assumption, but this is the only logical assumption.

Today whatever is happening to Purvi is WELL DESERVED , she KNEW Arjun and Ovi were married and if she had not shamelessly gotten married to her sister's ex husband just within months of their divorce then maybe she wouldn't have to face this situation.

How is it well-deserved? Because she shamelessely married her sister's exhusband within months of their divorce? Exactly with what type of shame did Ovi marry Arjun when she knew he loved purvi and purvi loved arjun? Agreed, Arvi agreed to it... but wasn't Arjun her to be jeeju in hours and purvi her sister then? If Ovi is so much better and didn't deserve her pain then why did she beg for Arjun so shamelessly? WHy she throw checkbook in his face ?

I wouldn't say that Purvi deserves this. I don't think anybody deserves to be in bad situations. However, if we look at it from a karma (what goes around comes around) point of view, Purvi is now in the situation Ovi was back then when she found out about Pari. Except, I think Ovi had it worse because she thought that Pari was her own child. About ArOvi's marriage, yeah, I think Ovi's actions were unacceptable. But then again, her and Arjun's engagement had already happened. I would never say what Ovi did was okay, but she did what she had to do. Purvi and Arjun could have stopped it. Ovi loved Arjun, but Arjun didn't feel the same way. Even Ovi agrees she was wrong now, but people learn from their mistakes, and honestly, if she didn't do this, I don't know how much Ovi's character would develop from the previous Ovi into this one.

Purvi was always the one who had time and again come between Ovi and Arjun, what was the necessity to join the workplace when she knew she was the root of all the problems in Ovi's life? Ovi and Arjun weren't even divorced then! They were already singing and dancing in rain when Ovi's divorce wasn't even processed and then you are blaming Ovi fans for favouritism.
I think any non arvi fan , who doesn't support neither Ovi or Onir can tell how pathetic both Arjun and Purvi are.

I agree with your point here. She probably shouldn't have joined the office. However PUrvi wasn't the root of all of Ovi's problems. Arovi were having issues before Purvi even came back from West Bengal.

ArOvi were having issues because Arjun kept on fantasizing about Purvi instead of trying to make his marriage work. Because of this, Ovi grew depressed. Purvi didn't cause their problems during this phase of their marriage directly, but she was the underlying cause. Anyways, whatever happened during their marriage is solely Arjun's fault. If Arjun didn't keep on dreaming about his ex girlfriend, then he might have been able to make his marriage with Ovi work... but you could tell he didn't want that. I truly do believe that Ovi tried her best before she just gave up.

When Ovi lost her baby, everyone said it was Karma.
Then when the same thing happened to Purvi today, what happened to Ovi 10 months ago isn't it Karma?

No one said it was Ovi's karma she lost her child. I remember that conversation exactly. I had said Ovi is dealing with this unhappy marriage etc and its the result of her karma. Her unhappiness with Arjun was the consequences of her actions.

I remember some people on the forums were saying that they were happy that Ovi gave birth to a stillborn, it's all because of her bad karma, it's all her fault that she came in between ArVi, now she has to suffer. They wished really ill of her. I personally don't mind these kind of accusations on anyone, because it's a show... if a baby or anyone dies, then it's all fictional and not happening in real life. However, if someone in real life was in a situation like Ovi's back then, it would have been extremely disrespectful and heartless.

I can sit here and speak ill of Ovi also like why did she come to India to investigate about Onir when she had a premature baby in the hospital? How does that make sense? Bad ovi = bad mom huh? But that doesn't concern me as I'm pretty sure this child came from the air as the young generation has signed back on to do continue the show post-leap.

The CVs probably hadn't thought of this back then. But if they had, Ovi couldn't do anything for her baby from Canada anyways, and I guess the CVs tried justifying it with the nurse there and clearly saying she couldn't take her home.

My point has always been all three characters have been wrong. I'm not saying Arvi are angels or saints. They've been wrong A LOT. But ovi has too. The only seemingly good one out of them is ONIR.

Yeah all of them have been wrong. Onir was also not "good" and I still don't consider him that. He put Purvi above everything. Above humanity too. Otherwise he wouldn't have disposed of Ovi's baby like that.

If Ovi was sympathized with for being lied and decieved then Purvi deserves that same sympathy otherwise it shows that one only felt sympathy for their favorite character because today it's being celebrated that purvi was lied and decieved.

Purvi has my sympathy right now for the fact that Arjun blatantly lied to her on the phone, not for the fact that she found out about Ovi's child. I'm not a worshipper of any character, when they do something that falls wrong in my values then I will say that it's wrong. I am disappointed in Purvi today only because she didn't know well enough that Ovi wouldn't cheat on Arjun, nor did she trust Ovi. I'm disappointed that she didn't even attempt to rationally think about it. She just called Arjun and then jumped to conclusions (seemingly).

Edited by ilovepyaar - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ilovedhanjanird


Again a major difference
Purvi always knew Arjun loves her
Ovi never knew that
So purvi can't actually assume that Arjun knew all along
Because Arjun always loved her
But ovi was always insecure about purvi
Purvi never even thought Arjun takes a second look at ovi
After all Arjun and purvi has gone through her trust is so fragile that she can just think Arjun was hiding about the baby all along 😆

First of all Purvi is a human before anything.The fact that Arjun lied to her and she knew it didnt sit well with her.Instead it upset her to know he didnt trust her enough to tell her the truth about his baby with Ovi.Its all about the time Arjun found out to the time Purvi found out and the time in between that Purvi thought Arjun knew but didnt tell her.
No one said that trust is never tested or shaken.It how they come out from a situation that defies a relationship.
Edited by ameilia - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: ilovepyaar

Sorry for jumping in, but I really want to reply to this!


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Let it be, Soniya and Amelia! Its no use arguing with those who hate Purvi! Let them gloat at Purvi's misery and possible miscarriage!
On Monday we will find out what happened...actually Ekta wont bother to give us any explanation of what exactly happened on the day Purvi found out abt Ovi's baby and saw Arjun with them!
So its no use conjecturing how Purvi reacted to the baby secret. They hardly showed her reactions! All she did was cry first and then she fainted while having labor pains!
Before that only things she did was to ask the Nurse and doctor, who was the dad of the baby and Onir found out it was Arjun. They showed her shock and disbelief which is natural. Even Archu and Manav would be shocked and disbelieving if they suddenly found out like that, even though ArMaan are not married to Arjun!
Any wife would be shocked and hurt to know her husband has a child with his ex-wife and was meeting her on the sly on supposed "business trips"
Even for her minimal reactions which was shown only for a few minutes, there is so much criticism and bashing! 🥱
And for those who are asking why did Purvi return from Kolkata while pregnant, well it seems they have not watched the show properly... Purvi did it because ArMaan BEGGED her to bring Onir to Mumbai to treat their obnoxious pregnant daughter who was trying her best to kill her unborn baby!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25

Let it be, Soniya and Amelia! Its no use arguing with those who hate Purvi! Let them gloat at Purvi's misery and possible miscarriage!

On Monday we will find out what happened...actually Ekta wont bother to give us any explanation of what exactly happened on the day Purvi found out abt Ovi's baby and saw Arjun with them!
So its no use conjecturing how Purvi reacted to the baby secret. They hardly showed her reactions! All she did was cry first and then she fainted while having labor pains!
Before that only things she did was to ask the Nurse and doctor, who was the dad of the baby and Onir found out it was Arjun. They showed her shock and disbelief which is natural. Even Archu and Manav would be shocked and disbelieving if they suddenly found out like that, even though ArMaan are not married to Arjun!
Any wife would be shocked and hurt to know her husband has a child with his ex-wife and was meeting her on the sly on supposed "business trips"
Even for her minimal reactions which was shown only for a few minutes, there is so much criticism and bashing! 🥱
And for those who are asking why did Purvi return from Kolkata while pregnant, well it seems they have not watched the show properly... Purvi did it because ArMaan BEGGED her to bring Onir to Mumbai to treat their obnoxious pregnant daughter who was trying her best to kill her unborn baby!


Are you referring to me? 😕 Have you even read what I wrote? When did I gloat at Purvi's misery/possible miscarriage? How is what I wrote criticism/bashing? I merely stated my point of view in a healthy discussion. If I said something against Purvi, I've said things against Arjun and Ovi as well. It's true that among the trio Ovi is my favourite at the moment and I won't deny that, but that doesn't make me a character basher/worshipper. Alright fine, so after Purvi's mahaanta where she brought Onir and the solved the problems, why didn't she leave?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@ilovepyaar

My entire point is based upon what purvi knows right now. We as the audience know arjun didnt know about pia... But purvi doesnt yet thus im saying shes feeling what she is right now. She isnt aware of the full truth yet.

I do hope purvi clarifies it but i wouldnt hold my breath. We all know we are watching and indian soap which thrives on misunderstandings and lack of communication.

My points about arjun etc were to show how i feel that saying just arvi are responsible and taking the blame away from ovi bc she did what she had to doesnt make sense to me.

They are all equally responsible for this mess. I just dislike how arvi are always criticized to death. Their actions are beaten to the ground but ovis actions get justifications. Im sure you feel arvi are justified and ovi gets beaten down. I like arvi as a couple and i think ashvik look nice together also and i like the actress shruti. I was never a fan of ovi but i dont hate her either.

@pallavi di

I feel that pain di. I know! I know! But i enjoy posting with certain members bc i try to see their perspective as much as possible!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ilovepyaar


Are you referring to me? 😕 Have you even read what I wrote? When did I gloat at Purvi's misery/possible miscarriage? How is what I wrote criticism/bashing? I merely stated my point of view in a healthy discussion. If I said something against Purvi, I've said things against Arjun and Ovi as well. It's true that among the trio Ovi is my favourite at the moment and I won't deny that, but that doesn't make me a character basher/worshipper. Alright fine, so after Purvi's mahaanta where she brought Onir and the solved the problems, why didn't she leave?

Why didnt she leave? Watch those episodes again...she tells Onir lets go back, Onir says. No I have some work here in Mumbai...this was after Pari was born and donated to Ovi. Onir refused to leave! Listening to ur parents may be mahaanta to you but to me its being a good daughter and sister! So she brought Onir to Kolkata somehow and he had to stay till Ovi had her baby as her personal gynae.

And the other poster, your friend, is gloating all over the forum abt Purvi's possible miscarriage and supposed suffering over the next 20 yrs!
But why imagine that Purvi will suffer? Maybe she will be happy without Arjun and Ovi in her life just as she was in Kolkata after the 6 months leap?
Oh I forgot! Arjun is the coveted prize and Ovi will get the prize so Purvi will suffer! Fat chance! 😆
I think Purvi will be quite happy in her own way, being a successful businesswoman or something like that!
Edited by pallavi25 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@ soniiyaa Yup, they've all dug their own graves, that's why they're in this situation now. But I truly believe that they should have learned from this ordeal and matured from it. Ovi has definitely matured, but it seems like Arjun is getting worse. If he knows what life is like without Purvi, then why is he arguing with her like this? It's true that all couples argue, but you could see that this is severely impacting their relationship. Purvi has also made a lot of decisions in the past that she ended up regretting. One would hope that she learned from them and ends up trying to clear her misunderstanding. But let's see what happens, I don't have any hope for any of them. It's an Ekta show where personalities change at the snap of a finger.




@ pallavi25 Onir's work didn't last forever. Even after Onir found out about Arjun's truth, they didn't leave. Alright she was a good daughter. Why couldn't she bring any other doctor to them? I'm sure Onir isn't the only top doctor in India. But this is serial logic. Purvi ran away from Kolkota. Onir wasn't even ready to go. She listened to her parent's, sure, by forcing her husband to do something he didn't want to do. Why couldn't she just tell them to get the second best doctor, I mean surely the second best doctor couldn't have been that bad either.

If she or anyone posts all over the forum about Purvi's miscarriage/suffering, what's wrong with that? Her miscarriage is possible and so is her suffering. She's just expressing her views. If anyone as a viewer is happy about that, then let them be, it's their choice. I wanted a miscarriage to happen in my favourite show to my favourite couple. It's not only when you hate the character's. At least in my case, I thought the story would be interesting if that happened. I don't think it makes me a heartless/cruel person either because the character's are fictional and I wouldn't wish it upon anyone in real life. When I watch shows/movies, I like to watch shows/movies where the character's suffer, where there is a sad ending, where the character's even die. Why? Because I'm horrible and I want people to die? No, because I usually like the symbolism or irony behind it. Even if someone wants Purvi to have a miscarriage or suffer, it isn't like she's a real person. She's fictional.
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