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Md. Ashfaqur rahman

@ashfaque2012

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Posted: 11 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: .Mandy.
While I agree Manav has been harsh with Soham compared to his siblings, Soham did not help matters with his latest actions. Manav after months of judging Soham was finally coming around, he started trusting him and was proud of him but Soham broke that trust because he is selfish and I'm glad he got caught.

As for who is to blame there are plenty at fault for that, Varsha for bringing Balan into their lives, Manav for not accepting Soham sooner and now Archana who should've slapped him for how he forcefully held Gauri against the wall. There is still time for some redemption from all three by putting a stop to Soham's obsession and not giving him any chance to ruin Sachin and Gauri's wedding.

Totally agree with U.

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Arohi

@.Peeves.

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Posted: 11 years ago

#12

No! I think Soham deserved that yelling!

Manav after so many days of confusion finally accepted Soham and yelled at Manju and Vinod for saying against Soham!

Plus Soham so conveniently lied Archana that he still is Soham and would never do any harm to their family!

Soham deserved that yelling to cheat his parents!

Till few days ago even I supported Soham but he is becoming worse every episode!

And agreed with perfangel that stepchild are NOT always mistreated!

I have seen many live examples where even step children are treated like their own children not if more!

Edited by pikachu. - 11 years ago

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john909

@john909

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Posted: 11 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: Perfangel5655
Maybe someday we will stop using the word stepchild as a bad thing.
But you guys honestly believe whatever mistakes Ovi, Teju, Purvi, Sachin did in the past is the same as kidnapping one of his daughters, putting her life in danger and shooting his wife and putting her in a coma?
Soham deserves all the yelling he gets. Manav has no reason to trust him and after looking at Soham's current behavior he is absolutely right in not trusting him.

first of all u r putting the whole blame on soham. he is responsible for what he did but i dont hold that against completely coz of the upbringing he got. nobody is good or bad since birth. it is circumstances, environment and parents is what shapes a child's character. what do you expect from balan and varsha? atleast soham has guts to call spade a spade unlike sachin who lacks the spine (metaphorically speaking) or morals and ovi who was characterless and blackmailed her own sister to buy a husband for herself. now is more mature and i like her for that. so far purvi goes. i agree she has the best intentions at heart and is ever ready to sacrifice for anybody but that was the root of all troubles in her life as well as others life. right now everything is fine but her actions has turned a lot of lives upside down. i have no comments on teju coz she is fine. i agree soham is still not completely reformed but yelling at him is not going to help. in what world has yelling at one's own son or daughter has ever knocked any sense in their heads. it makes matters worse. so far manav goes, he is nothing but irritating when it comes to soham. archu is much better at handling soham. manav expects a change overnight. well he stayed with those people for over 20 years i dont think that is possible. i am not saying he should trust him but he needs to stop yelling at him infront of everyone and try talking in a calm manner.

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jaskiran kaur

@AnkitGuptaKiAC

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Posted: 11 years ago

#14

I agree... The way soham is illtreated by manav is not right...

Soham is still suffering due to the mistakes of others...
Galti to sachin ne bhi bahut ki hai...

Hv they tried to sit and calm soham down and make him understand in better way and they dun even try to give him education...
Hope arvi help him to come out of all this mess...

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sweet_tania

@sweet_tania

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Posted: 11 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: kiranjas
I agree... The way soham is illtreated by manav is not right...

Soham is still suffering due to the mistakes of others...
Galti to sachin ne bhi bahut ki hai...

Hv they tried to sit and calm soham down and make him understand in better way and they dun even try to give him education...
Hope arvi help him to come out of all this mess...

Soham is completely turn in Vishnu Lala avatar... Manav is become too much hyper but must say soham is nw nt in dat state to explain him everything calmly... He is jst obsessed lover who is nw become animal nd don't care for anyone...plzzz whatever his past was but in present he is jst Vishnu Lala so stop trying to Defence him...how can anyone think positive for dat person who don know how to respect women.😡

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bubbles22

@bubbles22

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Posted: 11 years ago

#16

Manav probably loves soham the most. Often we treat the ones we love the harshest - not because we hate them, but bcos we cannot tolerate to see them being/doing wrong.

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@FireLordPhoenix

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Posted: 11 years ago

#17

Soham's current actions and behavior don't help him in any way. Manav seemed close to accepting Soham and now if Soham is getting yelled at, he deserves it. Soham can talk back all he wants but personally I'm just getting tired of this "Vishnu Lala" chawl brawler avatar of his. I hope he stays away from Gauri because he's behaving like a psycho now. He clearly doesn't have the capacity to think of others nor does he have the capacity to think ahead. Did he once think what would happen when Gauri finds out she was deceptively married off to Soham? Did he think she'd just accept it and embrace him? What if she refuses? What would he have done then? I feel afraid for Gauri and hope someone knocks some sense into Soham to not go after his future sister-in-law and to stop his disgusting behavior.

While I do agree that Manav, Archana, Varsha, and Balan all had a hand in making Soham the person he became his bhevaior currently is not due to them but due to his own selfish desires. He wants Gauri and he wants her in any way. That's not because of Manav and Archana. They did no wrong in setting up Sachin and Gauri's marriage. I don't think Soham should be coddled any longer. I can see Manav's frustrations and he probably has had it with Soham.

Edited by FireLordPhoenix - 11 years ago

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Fatima

@Rhimjhimsawan

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Posted: 11 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: john909

first of all u r putting the whole blame on soham. he is responsible for what he did but i dont hold that against completely coz of the upbringing he got. nobody is good or bad since birth. it is circumstances, environment and parents is what shapes a child's character. what do you expect from balan and varsha? atleast soham has guts to call spade a spade unlike sachin who lacks the spine (metaphorically speaking) or morals and ovi who was characterless and blackmailed her own sister to buy a husband for herself. now is more mature and i like her for that. so far purvi goes. i agree she has the best intentions at heart and is ever ready to sacrifice for anybody but that was the root of all troubles in her life as well as others life. right now everything is fine but her actions has turned a lot of lives upside down. i have no comments on teju coz she is fine. i agree soham is still not completely reformed but yelling at him is not going to help. in what world has yelling at one's own son or daughter has ever knocked any sense in their heads. it makes matters worse. so far manav goes, he is nothing but irritating when it comes to soham. archu is much better at handling soham. manav expects a change overnight. well he stayed with those people for over 20 years i dont think that is possible. i am not saying he should trust him but he needs to stop yelling at him infront of everyone and try talking in a calm manner.

No one in this world is completely blameless in any situation. Life doesn't work like that. But in this situation Soham does deserve majority of the blame. Soham knows that when he becomes "Vishnu lala" he is not a good guy. Soham didn't have a safe environment or the great parvaarish but he must know things like kidnapping, putting other people's life in danger is bad. I see many people making excuses for Soham's behavior saying well he doesn't know any better, he comes from a bad environment...Manav and Archana should've treated him better. If he doesn't know better to not to kidnap girls, shoot family members, marrying a girl through complete deception, backstabbing all your family members, hitting your brother and putting his life on danger then I do not think his problem is something that Manav and Archana could've fixed by putting him in night school or giving him "any" job in Manav's company to make him feel more included or give him a self-esteem boost. . I totally agree on the fact that Manav and Archana could've done more for him, but for this one I am blaming Soham and no one else.

Well...I do blame Archana a bit because she knows how Soham feels about Gauri. She should've been more sensitive toward his feelings.

Please do not think I am saying Ovi is blameless when I say this, I just don't wish to discuss Ovi because I feel no type of discussion changes people's mind when it comes to Ovi, or Purvi for that matter. People have already made up their minds and they don't want to look beyond their opinion. In my opinion Ovi has shown more character than most people in the show and I am not exactly sure what you are talking about when it comes to Sachin. I haven't really followed his character much. So I apologize for missing anything. Feel free to enlighten me. I know he lied and tried to keep Archana and Manav apart. Is that what you were talking about? Because if that is the case then really? isn't that double standard right there? Saying Soham doesn't know better not to kidnap, murder, marry a girl by force, and hurt people because of his parvarish from Varsha and Balan but Savita's brainwashing and lies on Sachin all his life doesn't matter. Sachin learned his lesson and moved on.

In my opinion Sachin has many good qualities this current Soham doesn't have (please note I current). I feel like Sachin is ashamed of what he did in the past and therefore he always feels guilty. I don't think he feels entitled to any of Archana and Manav's things and I can't exactly remember but one time he even had this conversation with Archana and where she had to remind him that he is also her son. Soham never said it but it is almost like he feels entitled to things. He has caused more heartache for this family than all other villains this show ever had and yet he feels this family never did anything for him.

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Kalapi

@Kalapi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: Perfangel5655

No one in this world is completely blameless in any situation. Life doesn't work like that. But in this situation Soham does deserve majority of the blame. Soham knows that when he becomes "Vishnu lala" he is not a good guy. Soham didn't have a safe environment or the great parvaarish but he must know things like kidnapping, putting other people's life in danger is bad. I see many people making excuses for Soham's behavior saying well he doesn't know any better, he comes from a bad environment...Manav and Archana should've treated him better. If he doesn't know better to not to kidnap girls, shoot family members, marrying a girl through complete deception, backstabbing all your family members, hitting your brother and putting his life on danger then I do not think his problem is something that Manav and Archana could've fixed by putting him in night school or giving him "any" job in Manav's company to make him feel more included or give him a self-esteem boost. . I totally agree on the fact that Manav and Archana could've done more for him, but for this one I am blaming Soham and no one else.

Well...I do blame Archana a bit because she knows how Soham feels about Gauri. She should've been more sensitive toward his feelings.

Please do not think I am saying Ovi is blameless when I say this, I just don't wish to discuss Ovi because I feel no type of discussion changes people's mind when it comes to Ovi, or Purvi for that matter. People have already made up their minds and they don't want to look beyond their opinion. In my opinion Ovi has shown more character than most people in the show and I am not exactly sure what you are talking about when it comes to Sachin. I haven't really followed his character much. So I apologize for missing anything. Feel free to enlighten me. I know he lied and tried to keep Archana and Manav apart. Is that what you were talking about? Because if that is the case then really? isn't that double standard right there? Saying Soham doesn't know better not to kidnap, murder, marry a girl by force, and hurt people because of his parvarish from Varsha and Balan but Savita's brainwashing and lies on Sachin all his life doesn't matter. Sachin learned his lesson and moved on.

In my opinion Sachin has many good qualities this current Soham doesn't have (please note I current). I feel like Sachin is ashamed of what he did in the past and therefore he always feels guilty. I don't think he feels entitled to any of Archana and Manav's things and I can't exactly remember but one time he even had this conversation with Archana and where she had to remind him that he is also her son. Soham never said it but it is almost like he feels entitled to things. He has caused more heartache for this family than all other villains this show ever had and yet he feels this family never did anything for him.

Just to add...not all sons of a Gunda becomes a Gunda. Nor all ppl who comes from a socially backward/bad/deprived environment automatically follow that footsteps...nor all children born from a rich, well educated, ethical parents - themselves becomes well educated or ethical...I mean there are many many real life examples - so just saying parvarish is only the key factor is totally wrong. Well, look at Sanjoy Dutt - son of Sunil Dutt - just as an example... Edit add : Varsha had Sulo's great parvarish...but then what became of her...fictional example if you want one😉

Edited by Kalapi - 11 years ago

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Fatima

@Rhimjhimsawan

Sparkler

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Posted: 11 years ago

#20

I am a little confused, I apologize. Are you saying Soham should not be held responsible for his actions and we should blame Archana and Manav? I already said that Manav and Archana could've done a better job with him but majority of the blame does fall on Soham's shoulders at this point. If I am going to excuse Soham for his behavior just because of Varsha and Balan then India is screwed, or any country for that matter. Most killers and rapists come from bad homes. So when they get caught do we bring the parents on the stands and say well this is your fault for not giving him a better upbringing so here share his sentence. Outside of law do we say well I am not really blaming this rapist or murderer here because he probably didn't get the right life lessons like I did.

There is a difference between not knowing any other path and choosing to make a bad decision. Soham KNOWS when he is making a bad decision. He does have a sense that can judge good from bad. He understood which line should not be crossed when Purvi was kidnapped, he felt Arjun was a bad guy and played with his sisters' lives and he absolutely hated the guy. He knows things like cheating a girl is bad. He knows right from wrong! Most people, even the people who come from worst environment know a good decision and bad decision. Soham knows stealing, kidnapping is bad and a honest living is better. Soham's problem isn't with not knowing what is good and what is bad, it is with the fact that he finds it so hard to be good/civil. Criminal like behavior is his second nature and he keeps falling back to it whenever something goes wrong. I do sympathize with him for that but I will not justify any of his actions.

I am not even going to touch Ovi and Sachin again, but you think Archana's separation from Manav is worse than the things they suffered due to Soham? Which by the way wasn't even Sachin's doing because when they separated Sachin was a child so he is only responsible for the all the things that happened afterwards. Ever had a loved one kidnapped? Your life leaves your body, nothing in the world makes sense anymore. A family member of mine got kidnapped by few goons couple of years ago for ransom. You don't know what state the person is in, whether he or she will make it alive. You don't know if they will rape or torture the person you love, You know nothing!!! I would rather stay 20 years away from a loved one than have one of them kidnapped for even a day. Archana was shot, and went into coma. She could've died, she almost did die. I think 18 years of separation is much better than losing someone forever. And now there is the thing with Sachin. According to the last episode his situation was "critical" so now Sachin's life is also in danger. This is not about having a sad miserable life away from the people you love, Soham's actions literally endangers their lives.

I am not justifying anything Sachin did!! Please understand that part. I am just shocked that Sachin's behavior can be considered worse than Soham's right now. Why? Because Sachin wasn't portrayed as the romantic hero so far? Is that the reason why it is so easy to relate to Soham and so hard to relate to Sachin...

Edited by Perfangel5655 - 11 years ago

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