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Posted: 12 years ago
Really ? r these simple words not allowed anymore ?😲 What and how r we supposed to talk then , r words like AND and BUT allowed ? What is happening , will mods clarify ? They r supposed to follow a set of common rules not make up rules as they go along . The Acronym rule and these rules are typically made up as per their wish which can be biased or unbiased but absolutely not within rules . Nothing i have said warrants a report , all i am asking is a cohesive explanation and i don't want one with mystifying new rules and smileys please for this IS too much . Are the other mods paying attention or are they on in this too ??
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Posted: 12 years ago
From what I understood I think they meant you cannot say such things in an instigating manner. Like sarcastically call them amarpremis or the old it's incest or they're jeeja-sali etc. in a way that is mocking or purposely trying to instigate.

Otherwise I think it's okay to critiizie etc but just not in a mocking or instigating manner...that's how I interpreted it.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sk11

From what I understood I think they meant you cannot say such things in an instigating manner. Like sarcastically call them amarpremis or the old it's incest or they're jeeja-sali etc. in a way that is mocking or purposely trying to instigate.


Otherwise I think it's okay to critiizie etc but just not in a mocking or instigating manner...that's how I interpreted it.

SK dear isn't everything subjective the way individual perceives things...It might be mocking and sarcastic to one but not to another 😳 This is why some of us have confusion.
BTW jeeju-saali having any relationship including physical is incest...Whether blood relative or not..Here Purvi wants Manav to be his baba so bad, Sachu & Soham to be Dada so bad and Savita to be Aaji so bad than what abt the sisters Ovi & Teju? Shouldn't they be considered Tai as they are elder sisters to Purvi???
She calls Punni Tai and Ruchi Tai why not Ovi and Teju as tai???? 😕😳
I am simply following the logic and intelligence-commonsense that I know..BTW Cvs created this. none of the members did...If the storyline is such than members should be allowed to discuss it exactly in the manner the relationships are shown in the serial...😳
In reality muh bole bhai ya phir behen ke saath having Romantic or physical relationships not accepted by society..It is not condoned behavior..But may be it is ok in Reel life 😒
Edited by Dabulls23 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

SK dear isn't everything subjective the way individual perceives things...It might be mocking and sarcastic to one but not to another 😳 This is why some of us have confusion.

BTW jeeju-saali having any relationship including physical is incest...Whether blood relative or not..Here Purvi wants Manav to be his baba so bad, Sachu & Soham to be Dada so bad and Savita to be Aaji so bad than what abt the sisters Ovi & Teju? Shouldn't they be considered Tai as they are elder sisters to Purvi???
She calls Punni Tai and Ruchi Tai why not Ovi and Teju as tai???? 😕😳
I am simply following the logic and intelligence-commonsense that I know..BTW Cvs created this. none of the members did...If the storyline is such than members should be allowed to discuss it exactly in the manner the relationships are shown in the serial...😳
In reality muh bole bhai ya phir behen ke saath having Romantic or physical relationships not accepted by society..It is not condoned behavior..But may be it is ok in Reel life 😒


I completely understand what you mean. In no way am I disagreeing or anything. I was just sharing my interpretion of the warning/rule.


Edit: I agree jeeja saali having relations is considered wrong but arvi had these relation prior to arovi marriage. Since then they haven't had any such relationship. Incest is having sexual intercourse between blood or close to blood relatives. arvi were physical before actual marriage took place which made them relatives.

Yes they look at each other lovingly etc but thats because they love each other prior to the deal that ruined everyone's lives. And that's not physical contact thus not incest.

Again just sharing. Not debating.

Edited by sk11 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
IF seriously needs to undergo changes. A member posted something like IF Leaks on the Suggestions and Comments thread and you would be surprised about the hidden truths of IF. There are unbiased mods out there but sometimes even they need to cower down to the high ups otherwise they are sent off. Recently I just read how a mod was bullied because she refused to bow down to a popular actress's fans on IF and the things they did, posting her pictures and making a hate page for her. Apparently VB did nothing even when she requested him to take action.


And about mockery, some people mock Ovi and Onir and I don't really think those posts deserve to get reported since they're not really bashing but if Arjun and Purvi are mocked it's another thing all together. I find nothing wrong with them being called amar premis. The definition for them is the same as the one used by the fans so what's the problem? Just because the context is different?
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Oh Kalapi I would like to add to "Amar Premis" "Jeeju-Saali" also is not allowed. Why?

If Arjun and Purvi are jeeju - Saali than that is how they have to be addressed..What is wrong in that ? I could not understand the logic...But than again there are special rules here which do not make sense to me but I have gone along with them...IE Acronyms not allowed...but one can wish a death for a character. 😕😳

Exactly VArsha, and I am at a loss...it seems that IF is restricting our vocabulary...Arjun and Purvi are jeeju saali...Arjun is married to Ovi...both are considered daughters by Arman...simple. What else is Purvi and Arjun's relationship here...and the point isn't here if Ovi and Purvi considers themselves sister. In real life it happens, my MIL cosiders a guy her son simply cause she gave him his first rich daan in his thread ceremony...after that the Q isn't anymore if her blood son consider him their brother - he became their brother irrespective of their consent - for the Mom accepts him her son...so this new rule left me totally 😲. Same with Amar premis😲. I think we are in for some Hindi vocabulary class soon😲
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Really ? r these simple words not allowed anymore ?😲 What and how r we supposed to talk then , r words like AND and BUT allowed ? What is happening , will mods clarify ? They r supposed to follow a set of common rules not make up rules as they go along . The Acronym rule and these rules are typically made up as per their wish which can be biased or unbiased but absolutely not within rules . Nothing i have said warrants a report , all i am asking is a cohesive explanation and i don't want one with mystifying new rules and smileys please for this IS too much . Are the other mods paying attention or are they on in this too ??

Kool, even "Incest" isn't allowed anymore. I dunno about the rest of the esteemed members of this forum, but a Jeeju Saali relationship is simply disgusting - and is incest - blood or no blood relationship. I have plenty of Jeejus in real life and I can't even begin to dream - no yaar, lets not even go there - my Jeejus are father and brother figures to me - I share such a beautiful relationship with them - so Arjun and Purvi's relationship is pure incest to me - I do not know what or IF is going to set some new standards in relationships...find it very disturbing even to imagine - maybe, I am too old fashioned and prudish - what to doShocked
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

SK dear isn't everything subjective the way individual perceives things...It might be mocking and sarcastic to one but not to another 😳 This is why some of us have confusion.

BTW jeeju-saali having any relationship including physical is incest...Whether blood relative or not..Here Purvi wants Manav to be his baba so bad, Sachu & Soham to be Dada so bad and Savita to be Aaji so bad than what abt the sisters Ovi & Teju? Shouldn't they be considered Tai as they are elder sisters to Purvi???
She calls Punni Tai and Ruchi Tai why not Ovi and Teju as tai???? 😕😳
I am simply following the logic and intelligence-commonsense that I know..BTW Cvs created this. none of the members did...If the storyline is such than members should be allowed to discuss it exactly in the manner the relationships are shown in the serial...😳
In reality muh bole bhai ya phir behen ke saath having Romantic or physical relationships not accepted by society..It is not condoned behavior..But may be it is ok in Reel life 😒

Exactly VArsha...Ovi and Arjun were married, had a kid together. Now, to me, Archana supporting Arjun Purvi union is beyond ridiculous, Pari or no Pari in this equation There are points in life that do not allow for about turns...but then what more to expect from Sanskaari Archana, who supported VAishu's bigamist pati - and forced her to go back to him. This, I suppose is the 21st Century Sanskaar - am totally 😲
Edited by Kalapi - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: salvatore-nina

IF seriously needs to undergo changes. A member posted something like IF Leaks on the Suggestions and Comments thread and you would be surprised about the hidden truths of IF. There are unbiased mods out there but sometimes even they need to cower down to the high ups otherwise they are sent off. Recently I just read how a mod was bullied because she refused to bow down to a popular actress's fans on IF and the things they did, posting her pictures and making a hate page for her. Apparently VB did nothing even when she requested him to take action.



And about mockery, some people mock Ovi and Onir and I don't really think those posts deserve to get reported since they're not really bashing but if Arjun and Purvi are mocked it's another thing all together. I find nothing wrong with them being called amar premis. The definition for them is the same as the one used by the fans so what's the problem? Just because the context is different?

But Nina, what is IFs gain by doing this?? Seriously, if advertisement is the main staple for IF to survive, surely then the footfall must be diverse for that to happen. Most fans are MIDS, and if IF bows down due to fan pressure - what will be the forum for then - Just this Actor Rockss...and that Actress Rockz - is that what IF wants - is that IF's motto?? I really, am confused with this systematic trend of stopping any constructive criticism...
Edited by Kalapi - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
hello all 🤗

wonderful posts kools and hilly...I agree with both completely...

Kools

loved your post abou arjun and his honesty..I admired that too and he was his strongest best then...but I also agree with hilly that it had blown me how he discarded his childhood friendship in a jiffy once Purvi the hurricane came into his life...no proper treatment post break-up, just the frenzied romantic fest he was on, completely oblivious to ovi's suffering and pain, which at that point was NOT f her own calling...but simply brought upon cruelly by the lovers and fate (?). I loved how you emphasized the imprtance of love but also commitment..I see this a lot in reality too...the stupid saying that all is fair in love and war does come with disclaimers...because love is such a positive compassionate and "giving" feeling that it makes people happy...but by cruelly stamping upon others in a simply shrugged off indifference is what makes it so wrong sometimes..I loved your thought about, how when this happens before a marriage, by all means spare 2 broken lives and walk away, but do it dignifiedly and in a mature positive way...yes someone's heart will be broken, but how you deal with that person after is as important...especially in a case like childhood friendship...make it easy for this person because YOU broke their heart and you should FEEL bad abuot it esp after committing...Basic human empathy if nothing else...Many times you love a person they dn't love you back, and that is life...you have to move on..but when you commit and promise someone a future together and then back out then you are directly and knowingly responsible for their heartbreak and pain...I could never understand this indifference to ovi's heartbreak by arjun...I supported him then for his courage at being the "bad guy" and taking the flak and being a man by standing up and saying it like it is...but at the same time..his missing empathy and indifference to his childhood friend who he has grown up with was super pathetic too...He wanted ovi to get over it in a day...she didn't..she cut herself to die...and he didn't do anything about it...much less go give her a little talk and help her out of it...if it was a stranger in an arranged marriage, chalo ok, no ties yu have and you leave that person to handle it...but your childhood friend? How can you be so heartless about someone you have cared for so long? Suddenly? What integrity of such a man? Hilly, great point about those bangles and the fake let's get married talk ver the phone too..miss you nonsense...when clearly he was thinking of purvi even then...why not be upfront...why wait for purvi to accept and treat your friend as some consolation prize or second substitute if she did not love you back? He should have broken up with ovi the right way the minute he realized his love for purvi...not wait to see if purvi loves him back too..

About purvi, I understood at sme level this need for purvi to have her dream family and the need to give back to archana who made her feel this debt...archana has done no justice to either of the children...when she gave up on her bio kids and brought purvi as substitute for her mamta...and then never cared to get in touch with family sitting with some foolish hope they will miraculously waltz into her life and treat her like the best mom ever...all those years she brought up purvi ignoring her bio kids growing up without a mom...and all her life, while bringing up purvi, she kept missing and talking about her bio kids and making purvi celebrate all their birthdays and what not...this way her bio kids felt ignored and castaway by their mom and her adopted kid always grew up with the idea of debt on her head and the nagging notion that her mom always misses the kids who aren't around..what a messed up mamta if I may say so...so I got puvi's innate need for making things right for archana and for the dream of that complete family she never had...but again as hilly said, why ovi is not included in that family then? Why the selective treatment? Why not tell ovi the level of intimacy before handing her the "used" fiance? Why not think of what life she is subjecting both ovi and arjun to by forcing them to marry each other? OVi wanted it, but after knowing about the level of intimacy I doubt she stil would...chalo theek hai, you agreed to the deal and did not say all...but then why stilll control the ex? Why the nain matakas and the secret controlling of his marriage by dictating terms? Buy gift, get her pregnant...why all that? Why not leave them alone since you gave up on both sister and lover by subjecting them to this loveless marriage yourself...you did what you had to...but why this keeping lover under your tutelage? She ran away to hide pregnancy after all that party drama and sorry but that was not to make life easier for ovi and arjun but only to be a coward and not brave it up and say the truth...she could have saved their messed up lives...if she so cared for ovi, she should have done the right thing...SHE NEVER Cared FOR OVI...that is very obvious...so all her hogwash abut ovi's bhalai was never true...it was her being a COWARD.

And hilly you are right...I can never see sympathy for purvi...for all the reasons you stated and the continuous hurricane she brings in everyone's life by her own foolishness and stupid thinking...after a while, it looks self-centered and nobody's bhalai...

ARVI re-union, i am least bothered about...get them together now as such ridiculous pathetic and selfish people deserve each other only...Ovi got what she signed up for in that one month of marriage where she REALIZED this was not working...when ARJUN begged for second chance and got her pregnant, then on it was the great lovers who destroyed her life for her..one by falsely continuing marriage and making her pregnant and one by stealing her right to her dead child...It is an offence in my eyes that I call paap and something people would pay for in their karma...obv purvi never pays for anything...even if onir is a bad guy, she has gotten a pretty sweet deal of a marriage where he never treated her badly, forced sex or disrespected her...ready made husband and baby daddy...and a floor sleeper who defended her honor in every bad situation...and now he will turn negative but does not over-ride what he did for her at all...and now he goes away and she gets reunited with her baby daddy without any issues...so where is her karma may i know?


I don't even read updates cuz it is a mockery of what used to be a good show called "PAVITRA RISHTA"...by stamping on ovi's happiness, her dead baby which she has had no closure to and by uniting after so many nakhras by being married to different people but not for once giving their marriages any ounce of respect and going with the farce and some dumb torch for each other, I don't call such rishtas pavitra...the man has gotten two sisters pregnant with his child...that is digusting and rubbish..and then will have marriages with both...never cared for wife and treated her like dirt...and then uniting with lover-girl after making life hell for the families involved is serious nonsense...and theek hai..show them then to be the selfish and self-centered couple...i get it..but to elevate them to true lovers and bhalai ke log and esp purvi to be some angel..is hogwash...it is not digestible to me...

Hilly loved your reference to archana and manav and their so vry flawed relationship too which also dissolved the pavitra rishta meaning...they have mistrusted each other in most adverse situations...almost divorced twice...18 years apart without communication and so much misunderstanding...and stil shown to be some symbol of great love...only pavitra part is they have only been with each other and not other people...even though they have also treated their marriage like some joke...

P.S- still catching up on other posts but wanted to reply to this as I read it...also guys, I got a 20% level of raise in warning level because of sayig jeeja-saali as it is a sensitive issue apparently...I thought it was because I said incest...and I believe jeeja-saali getting together if ne of the spouses has died or something very adverse and critical has happened or any believable circumstance...is absolutely ok...but this behind the back love torch inspite of respective spouses is incest in my opinion...but some of our opinions hurt the sentiments of some very delicate people...so I understood that and did not argue with mods...but if they are banning amar premis and even calling them jeeja-saali without using incest...it is really deplorable how the mods handle this forum...we don't question when these two characters are hailed as some sort of great lovers..we don't question when ovi is called selfish and brat and what not...we don't question ideas about how people want ovi's child to be someone else's by making her a cheating and 🤬 girl...so then how is jeeja-saali terming or amar premis hurting someone, I would love to know...Ridiculous is what I will say...mods and I had exchanged emails and I got her point...but banning saying " amar premis" and jeeja-saali terms just cuz it may be sarcastic is weird...I use sarcasm so should I stop writing the way I do in order to avoid hurting feelings..do people come on to this forum to be pampered or to read and post comments on their own thoughts?



Edited by pari87 - 12 years ago

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