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Kalapi thumbnail
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Posted: 12 years ago

Ok, I have been planning to make this post forever now๐Ÿ˜† and I wanted to make it in another thread where Hilly said that members thinks that Arjun lusted for Ovi and had sex, whereas with Purvi, his sex was for love๐Ÿ˜ƒ. Now, that thread got closed, but I desperately want to write this down and see what everyone here thinks of it๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†, so here I go ๐Ÿ˜†.

I believe that without lust sex cannot simply happen. People lust for each other and so engage in sex. Sex isn't like having breakfast or lunch, so when one's biological clock demands food, one eat. Humans do not engage in Sex; say Monday, Tuesday and Thursday of a week, right? ๐Ÿ˜† Nor do they plan for sex at 3AM, right?๐Ÿ˜† That could be utterly weird๐Ÿ˜†. Sex happens when people have that urge that can be triggered by so many things...a hormonal change in response to internal or external stimuli, right? So, even if one loves a girl, there has to be that urge or lust for sex to happen, otherwise that relationship will totally be platonic, right?? So, lust is the single most important ingredient for any Sex to happen, isn't it?

So, why is there a negative connotation in that word, lust... it basically describes the passion that leads to sex? Of course, sometime this passion may not be right and lead to rape etc. so I guess, one need to learn to curb that 'lust'. And that is what society demands, lust within a predefined norm...

Ok, now I said it all about how I feel about love, lust and sex๐Ÿ˜‰ (can be made into a Movie yaar๐Ÿ˜†) and feel much lighter๐Ÿ˜†...say what friendz???

Edited by Kalapi - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Masti I hope your friend recovers from accident pain soon...Whiplesh is something cant be seen on X-Ray but the pain lingers on for a while ...Been thru the worst accident driving my 2 seater hit by a big pick up truck from behind 5 yrs back..So I know...Hehe your lil one is having fun bunking Pre school ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
Don Arjun meeting detective inspector gadget ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜† I laughed so much with the scene...And when Arjun sees muchhiless DK he starts peeing in his pants ๐Ÿ˜›
Sulo's tears were so fake...No AA though...Didnt Manju look a little suspecious today feeling bad for Sulo? Was she for real or faking it ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜†
I dont think Manav asked Purvi to come...I think it was Teju who made that decision on her own to invite Purvi to the hospital but not Soham...
Bips dear dont you worry abt forum and why so much discussion on premarital sex and hypocrites..We are the moral police, Moral upholders and many many names have been taged with.๐Ÿ˜ณ
Kalapi darling loved your post on Love, Lust and Sex..Want to answser but may be too much for the forum ๐Ÿ˜‰ so have refrained from doing so...May be will PM you ๐Ÿ˜›
Edited by Dabulls23 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Ok, I have been planning to make this post forever now๐Ÿ˜† and I wanted to make it in another thread where Hilly said that members thinks that Arjun lusted for Ovi and had sex, whereas with Purvi, his sex was for love๐Ÿ˜ƒ. Now, that thread got closed, but I desperately want to write this down and see what everyone here thinks of it๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†, so here I go ๐Ÿ˜†.

I believe that without lust sex cannot simply happen. People lust for each other and so engage in sex. Sex isn't like having breakfast or lunch, so when one's biological clock demands food, one eat. Humans do not engage in Sex; say Monday, Tuesday and Thursday of a week, right? ๐Ÿ˜† Nor do they plan for sex at 3AM, right?๐Ÿ˜† That could be utterly weird๐Ÿ˜†. Sex happens when people have that urge that can be triggered by so many things...a hormonal change in response to internal or external stimuli, right? So, even if one loves a girl, there has to be that urge or lust for sex to happen, otherwise that relationship will totally be platonic, right?? So, lust is the single most important ingredient for any Sex to happen, isn't it?

So, why is there a negative connotation in that word, lust... it basically describes the passion that leads to sex? Of course, sometime this passion may not be right and lead to rape etc. so I guess, one need to learn to curb that 'lust'. And that is what society demands, lust within a predefined norm...

Ok, now I said it all about how I feel about love, lust and sex๐Ÿ˜‰ (can be made into a Movie yaar๐Ÿ˜†) and feel much lighter๐Ÿ˜†...say what friendz???

Kalapi I like the topic.
Here is what I feel...

It does not seem like lust, lust is where you are only lovers and not friends. I know Arjun does not treat Ovi the way a true friend should. However, they do have a history, they have had conversations, spent time together. Maybe more in the past than in the marriage. Yet, that is still there. That is why Arjun was comfortable with having sex with Ovi and was okay with getting her pregnant . I believe that is why he could give into Purvi's request, because he knew Ovi, she was familiar.
Remember when he agreed to marry her initially, it was after feeling jealous seeing her with another man, so he was obviously attracted to her. Of course he was not in love, but there was attraction or no way he would agree to the marriage, since no one was forcing him. Especially after was giving him the exit.

At the same time, men are known to toy with the girl that turns him on physically and the girl that turns him on both physically and mentally.
Arjun felt mental connection with Purvi first, and that is what drove him to feel passion for her. If it was physical first, we would have seen that. Purvi challenged him, she did not make things easy for him, he was not used to that and men like challenge. Unfortunately, as we all know, there isn't much to the girl in some cases, but the men can't see that.

Arjun felt physical attraction for Ovi First along with the friendship, but the friendship he took for granted. Ovi was always willing to please him, she never challenged him, she went along with whatever. If she challenged him it was more behind the scenes, but she messed that up by telling him about the act to make him jealous..wrong move.
Ovi's looks and her stylish dressing makes her more appealing for the typical male. She looks like a model. Men friends have told me women who look like that is more distracting so you focus more on how she looks, instead of what she is on the insides.

Purvi is pretty but she looks regular, she does not have that striking look, but her way to challenge Arjun, makes him take notice, of her the person, not her looks. Then eventually he became physically attracted to her, he developed passion. Plus Purvi has the attitude that insecure men would find intriguing. A real confident man would not spend a day with Purvi after her first shouting tirade. Arjun as we know is not confident. he can't even make decisions for himself.

Just my two cents.







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Posted: 12 years ago
Varsha darling, I absolutely, absolutely want to hear your POV on lust๐Ÿ˜†. You can pm me if you want๐Ÿ˜†, but, am sure many will love to hear you too๐Ÿ˜†
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Posted: 12 years ago
Nice topic Kalapi. Love the posts by you and Hilly.

My POV is that a man has to be physically attracted to a woman before he can have sex with her. Remember men can't fake sex. ๐Ÿ˜‰ So they must feel that physical attraction. Now men are not like women where they need to be in love with the person to have sex with them.
Ovi is a beautiful model who did not hide her feelings for Arjun. She and Arjun were friends from childhood.
Now being a famous, beautiful model and in love with Arjun would have stroked his male ego at some point. He must have been feeling like a king. But the problem with that relationship and why it never took off is that men are also hunters. Ovi never gave Arjun a chance to chase her so though the pyhsical attraction was present, the excitement and thrill of the chase was not there. She was too much of a doormat and yes-woman. Men need their woman to challenge them and to have opinions about things.

Purvi was like a foreign object to Arjun when he first met her. He was anxious to prove to his father that he was capable but Purvi was putting up a fight with her union work. Plus the fact that the CVs made her into a superwoman who was the only person that could run the company, just helped matters by him being in her presence constantly. I mean that just proved that DK was a shitty businessman if he could not manage his company but that is another topic so let's leave that.
So Purvi's constant brawls just made Arjun notice her as he was not used to seeing such behaviour. She challenged his principles and values and was anxoius to prove that he was not the things she accused him of being. After all, he was accustomed to his ego being massaged.

So he is in love with Ovi and does feel lust for her. With Purvi I will say that she provided mental stimuli for him and so became infatuated with her.
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Posted: 12 years ago
Gauri and the other doctor treating Archu are unbelievable! Soham is not the one who created a scene at the party, he was doing his job when Gauri decided to create a scene. Manav is no better, what a piece of work he is for a father how can any parent be so cold to their child especially one who was kidnapped and forced into that type of lifestyle?
I hope the only person Archana responds to is Soham
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: hillydee

Kalapi I like the topic.

Here is what I feel...

It does not seem like lust, lust is where you are only lovers and not friends. I know Arjun does not treat Ovi the way a true friend should. However, they do have a history, they have had conversations, spent time together. Maybe more in the past than in the marriage. Yet, that is still there. That is why Arjun was comfortable with having sex with Ovi and was okay with getting her pregnant . I believe that is why he could give into Purvi's request, because he knew Ovi, she was familiar.
Remember when he agreed to marry her initially, it was after feeling jealous seeing her with another man, so he was obviously attracted to her. Of course he was not in love, but there was attraction or no way he would agree to the marriage, since no one was forcing him. Especially after was giving him the exit.

At the same time, men are known to toy with the girl that turns him on physically and the girl that turns him on both physically and mentally.
Arjun felt mental connection with Purvi first, and that is what drove him to feel passion for her. If it was physical first, we would have seen that. Purvi challenged him, she did not make things easy for him, he was not used to that and men like challenge. Unfortunately, as we all know, there isn't much to the girl in some cases, but the men can't see that.

Arjun felt physical attraction for Ovi First along with the friendship, but the friendship he took for granted. Ovi was always willing to please him, she never challenged him, she went along with whatever. If she challenged him it was more behind the scenes, but she messed that up by telling him about the act to make him jealous..wrong move.
Ovi's looks and her stylish dressing makes her more appealing for the typical male. She looks like a model. Men friends have told me women who look like that is more distracting so you focus more on how she looks, instead of what she is on the insides.

Purvi is pretty but she looks regular, she does not have that striking look, but her way to challenge Arjun, makes him take notice, of her the person, not her looks. Then eventually he became physically attracted to her, he developed passion. Plus Purvi has the attitude that insecure men would find intriguing. A real confident man would not spend a day with Purvi after her first shouting tirade. Arjun as we know is not confident. he can't even make decisions for himself.

Just my two cents.







I agree with most of what you say Hilly dear, and I absolutely love the sentences I highlighted.

But still my question remains, can one have sex without lust? When we say a couple lusts for each other, do we only mean that they are only lovers and have sex โ€“ that can be one form of sex and lust. But does it mean that couples who love each other not necessarily lust for each other. The dictionary defines lust as intense desire (that can be for knowledge, power or sex). To me, sex cannot happen if there isn't lust. To me, lust is that spice that flavors sex โ€“ making it spicier?๐Ÿ˜† True, Purvi forced Arjun to take notice, but when he finally got physically attracted to her, wasn't both lusting (here, of course, I donot mean it negatively) for each other? If a human being, in a normal course of natural events, has sex with a partner, isn't this couple at that point lusting for each other to engage in sex. So, to me, lust is what makes that sex happen โ€“ and the stimulus that started that sexual act might be anything โ€“ like Purvi's challenging attitude โ€“ God, did I make any sense???๐Ÿ˜†

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Posted: 12 years ago

I believe that without lust sex cannot simply happen. People lust for each other and so engage in sex. Sex isn't like having breakfast or lunch, so when one's biological clock demands food, one eat. Humans do not engage in Sex; say Monday, Tuesday and Thursday of a week, right? ๐Ÿ˜† Nor do they plan for sex at 3AM, right?๐Ÿ˜† That could be utterly weird๐Ÿ˜†. Sex happens when people have that urge that can be triggered by so many things...a hormonal change in response to internal or external stimuli, right? So, even if one loves a girl, there has to be that urge or lust for sex to happen, otherwise that relationship will totally be platonic, right?? So, lust is the single most important ingredient for any Sex to happen, isn't it?

Oh My dear Kalapi you gave woman's perspective on Love, Lust or Sex ๐Ÿ˜›...But here we are talking abt Arjun the male specie..Sex is like food = BFast, Lunch, or dinner...Men do not need a reason to have sex as they think abt it every 8 seconds..And there isn't any schedule for men which day of the week or time of the day is good for having sex ๐Ÿ˜ƒ It should be the same for women too...
BTW who said sex @ 3Am is not right ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜†Spontanity what I am talking abt..Women even plan Sex as they have gazillion other things to do raising family..Men are wired differently..Sex is an act which does not require emotions for them..I may be sounding aweful but it is overall true..๐Ÿ˜ณ We attach emotions and feelings to all our acts including sex ๐Ÿ˜ณ Though nothing wrong for a woman to lust for her man (monogamous relationship) ...
Another thing abt Men is for them to have sex woman always does not need to be gorgeous looking though they are Visual..They do go by looks the exterior and not interior...They are not so deep..It all depends upon what is going on in their mind at a particular moment ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
So, why is there a negative connotation in that word, lust... it basically describes the passion that leads to sex? Of course, sometime this passion may not be right and lead to rape etc. so I guess, one need to learn to curb that 'lust'. And that is what society demands, lust within a predefined norm...
There should not be any -Ve connotation to lust or sex..Its all part of a relationship or marriage..I 100% agree with JulieD's post abt what Arjun felt for Ovi and Purvi..Purvi not only the Indian Novelty but a fighting young lady made it hard for Arjun to resist..A challange where Ovi was always there loving him...No challange..my 2 cents on LL&S..By No means I am generalizing anything abt men or women but what I have seen, read and heard ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
Oh Yes I have been saying this all along "Curb the Urge to Surge"
Edited by Dabulls23 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: JulieD

Nice topic Kalapi. Love the posts by you and Hilly.


My POV is that a man has to be physically attracted to a woman before he can have sex with her. Remember men can't fake sex. ๐Ÿ˜‰ So they must feel that physical attraction. Now men are not like women where they need to be in love with the person to have sex with them.
Ovi is a beautiful model who did not hide her feelings for Arjun. She and Arjun were friends from childhood.
Now being a famous, beautiful model and in love with Arjun would have stroked his male ego at some point. He must have been feeling like a king. But the problem with that relationship and why it never took off is that men are also hunters. Ovi never gave Arjun a chance to chase her so though the pyhsical attraction was present, the excitement and thrill of the chase was not there. She was too much of a doormat and yes-woman. Men need their woman to challenge them and to have opinions about things.

Purvi was like a foreign object to Arjun when he first met her. He was anxious to prove to his father that he was capable but Purvi was putting up a fight with her union work. Plus the fact that the CVs made her into a superwoman who was the only person that could run the company, just helped matters by him being in her presence constantly. I mean that just proved that DK was a shitty businessman if he could not manage his company but that is another topic so let's leave that.
So Purvi's constant brawls just made Arjun notice her as he was not used to seeing such behaviour. She challenged his principles and values and was anxoius to prove that he was not the things she accused him of being. After all, he was accustomed to his ego being massaged.

So he is in love with Ovi and does feel lust for her. With Purvi I will say that she provided mental stimuli for him and so became infatuated with her.

OMG Julie, loved reading your post too. Am so glad I made this post on lust๐Ÿ˜†. I especially loved your reference to male, the hunter instinct โ€“ yes, male love to hunt and win his female, a primitive animal nature that we carry from our pre-historic forefathers. Men, like showing off their trophies they win from a fair fight too ๐Ÿ˜† โ€“ whereas Females are more family builders. So, female are natural nurturer, and their sex probably involves 'mamta', but does it means that she will not lust for her man? As for men feeling physical attraction โ€“ it is an index of sexual attraction, right? So, in that sense, I feel Arjun lusted for both Ovi and Purvi โ€“ maybe the stimulus was different, and one was not that intense (towards Ovi) as the other (here Purvi) โ€“ I guess, Purvi gives Arjun that power of achieving her โ€“ of conquering her, and right now, Arjun can't conquer Purvi, that pulls him back all the more towards Purvi.

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Posted: 12 years ago
A couple who love each other can, may and do lust for each other but the ones who lust for each other does not always mean they love each other...

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