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Posted: 12 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: ilovedhanjanird

wow this cheap discussion of biological vs adopted is still on

it doesn't matter who gets what
Sachin is a successful lawyer and DOES NOT want Manav's property
Sachin is as much a son to Manav as Soham is, even more
How can people even say all this
Sachin was there from Day 1
He is manav's first child
so just because he isn't biologically related to Manav
he is no one?


Waneeka, you are absolutely right, it is not a question of bio vs adopted or who inherits what.

It has been repeatedly said that Purvi was not legally adopted by Archana so the parallel was neither is Sachin legally adopted by Manav. Legality does not mean a thing when a child is raised by a parent (bio or otherwise) with love. Sachin is as much Manav's son as Purvi is Archana's daughter.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Alright now, adopted or not, a child is still the child of the person whom they indetify as their parent, and the parent inndentifies as their child. This is the case with Archana and Purvi, but not with Purvi and Manav. While Purvi calls him Baba, Manav has not fully made Purvi his beti. I bet if Purvi is asked wh has more priority for her, she woud say Archana.
Sachin is Manav's nephew and adopted son, with Archana. He has been with the Deshmuks all his life, whereas Purvi has not. He is legally and biologically a Deshmukh son, wheras for all intents and purposes, Purvi is Archana's daughter. The constant reminders of her being adopted, in her childhood by Manjusha, and to some extent by Archana herself (unconciously), has led to Purvi, placing herself secondry to her mother's family's happiness.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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SW Manav said it , if , i remember , hypothetically . I don't know for sure if he did it . But Sachin did refuse Manav's inheritance and Manav has put Purvi in the will and bought a property for Pari in Lonavla .

mystic , i agree . Legality means EVERYTHING . And i agree that Purvi blew all the chances she got ...wonderful life at the Karanjkars , loving acceptance of the Deshmukhs , a good chance to marry rich Arjun , a happy life with Onir in Kolkata .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: mysticzeal

sachin is manav's younger brother's son. he is the son of savita's second son. he is as much as a heir as ovi teju soham and is not on someone's charity like purvi

Thanks for the clarification of the relationship between Soham and the Deshmukhs. A nephew however does not inherit from an uncle, I think, unless of course the uncle chooses to bequeath his wealth to the nephew.
Characterising Purvi as someone's charity is unfortunate. We should resepect humans simply for being human regardless of their parentage. Orphans are not inferior to those who have parents.
Since I have not watched this programme since its beginning, I don't have the ancient family histories to guide me. However, if Sachin has these super rich relatives how is it that we don't see or hear from them? If he is heir to an empire, why is he not taking care of it? I think Sachin is actually a very ineffectual lawyer, from what I have seen.
As regards the house, does Damodar not have any say in the matter?
Purvi may not have Deshmukh blood in her veins but she was raised by Archana as a daughter. She should therefore be accorded that respect.
Finally, no amount of certifactes on a wall makes you a good human being. Nor is a university education a guarantee that you will turn into a good person.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sachin will be well off on his own even if he does not get that small portion in the chawl home 😆 but as a matter of fact he is ENTITLED to it. Even Damodar cannot deny his inheritance rights .

Sachin is legally adopted by Manav Archana ...the whole marraige thing with Shravani was to give him legitimacy . Ultimately it was decided not to marry Shravani but find another alternative ...marry Archana and adopt him . Thats why he calls him Baba .

He can be in the will . He refused and that was his understanding .

His family ...his grand pa and his mom were bid a farewell in the show by the CVS when PR part 2 started as they wanted to focus on the love story of Arjun Purvi . They featured a lot , all the time infact in PR part 1 . PR part 2 kept Archana Manav's family as side characters , cut down others and started the story of Arjun and Purvi who were neither Karanjkars nor Deshmukhs which was funny . Many viewers like us have watched the story since day 1 . Ashna and DK were side characters in PR part one and Arjun was not even there , except in one episode as a child . Same with Purvi , she was suddenly introduced in one episode before the leap .

I honestly don't know why the word 'charity' offends so many viewers . It is clearly the story . A girl raised due to humanity and kindness by a lady ,who has good intentions but messes up each time she takes crucial decisions and the cumulative damage is more than the good intentions .

Charitable institutions r a fact , and charity is a fact too . Thats what it is , a fact , neither good nor bad . I personally do not find human beings raised on charity less as humans or believe they should get less respect at all . Jane Eyre is my favorite character so is Heathcliff . These r simply facts shown in the serial .






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Posted: 12 years ago
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Kools, charity in and of itself is not bad. Giving charity should make us realise how fortunate we are and humble us. However, when instead it makes us realise our superiority over others, then we have a problem.
Calling a person a charity case is degrading, humiliating and disrespectful. It indicates our superiority over someone who is unlike us.
The way in which Purvi is being treated because she is an orphan shows that those with parents in this programme consider themselves superior to her. They consider their favour/charity in having her in the family makes them better than her. They consider her to be of a lower class than themselves.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sakhile

Kools, charity in and of itself is not bad. Giving charity should make us realise how fortunate we are and humble us. However, when instead it makes us realise our superiority over others, then we have a problem.

Calling a person a charity case is degrading, humiliating and disrespectful. It indicates our superiority over someone who is unlike us.


The way in which Purvi is being treated because she is an orphan shows that those with parents in this programme consider themselves superior to her. They consider their favour/charity in having her in the family makes them better than her. They consider her to be of a lower class than themselves.



Sakhile, kudos to that!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sakhile

Kools, charity in and of itself is not bad. Giving charity should make us realise how fortunate we are and humble us. However, when instead it makes us realise our superiority over others, then we have a problem.

Calling a person a charity case is degrading, humiliating and disrespectful. It indicates our superiority over someone who is unlike us.
The way in which Purvi is being treated because she is an orphan shows that those with parents in this programme consider themselves superior to her. They consider their favour/charity in having her in the family makes them better than her. They consider her to be of a lower class than themselves.



Nice post 👏👏👏. And people should take into a consideration that Purvi's parents were not poor. When her parents met with an accident, Purvi's dad was driving a CAR. I'm pretty sure Karanjkar's doesn't have a car. I can't tell anything about the Deshmukh's because they are always walking on the streets.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: arshi_arvi



Nice post 👏👏👏. And people should take into a consideration that Purvi's parents were not poor. When her parents met with an accident, Purvi's dad was driving a CAR. I'm pretty sure Karanjkar's doesn't have a car. I can't tell anything about the Deshmukh's because they are always walking on the streets.

Rich or poor doesn't matter. Wealth, parentage, social status all pale into insignaificance. if we recognise that we are equal in all circumstances because we belong to the human race.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Kools, if we are taking Manav's words to Archana as proof that he put Purvi in the will and his words to Ovi and Arjun that he bought that property for Pari, let us not discredit his words then as far as including Soham in his will, fair is fair :)

Also, when did Manav sign Sachin's birth certificate as his dad? If he did, that does not make Sachin's adoption by Manav (note I did not say grandparents) any more legal than Purvi's. Both adoptions are made by the heart and are equally viable as far as adoptions go, the legality of it is questionable in both situations.

Archana adopted Purvi as much for herself as for Purvi, it was said often enough in the soap that after the twins were taken away by Savita, Purvi was the only reason for her living.
Charity should never be touted because then it loses its value and the good karma that comes along with doing a good deed. By constantly repeating that sadak se utai hui bacchi, they are nullifying any good deed these women did in going along with the kindness of Archana. The adoption is Archana's business and they had no say in it, she gave her name to the child (Deshmukh was her legal name) and Manav is her husband, expecting him to go along with her decision is a matter bet/ husband and wife. She accepted Sachin as her own and was even foolishly prepared to give up on her family for the sake of his happiness (the apple does not fall too far from the tree in purvi's case).

As for Sachin being the heir to an empire, I remember the earlier episodes when his grandfather was a rich man in Mumbai, no talk of an empire that was transported to the US though. That to me remains a moot point, Sachin is entitled to everything Manav has as he is technically Manav's son, legally adopted or not, same as Purvi is Archana's daughter.

Forgive any typos, on my phone, and won't be able to get to the forum until much later. Happy PR watching!

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