The Party & its hangover! - Page 20

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Dear Shyamala, different people react differently even in the same situation. Varsha and Purvi are not the same person, Varsha took her sister's child for her own happiness, Purvi gave away her child for her sister's happiness, marked contrast between the two.

Coming to why Varsha begged and pleaded with the judge, it was not Varsha's fault that Soham was behind bars (barring the initial kidnapping which put him amidst goons) so she was not weighed down by guilt and could make all the noise she wanted.

No, it honestly did not seem amiss that Purvi sat silently in court. She is the reason Onir is behind bars, she knows this, she is tongue-tied with guilt and helplessness, it is a feeling of doom, a sinking feeling, knowing nothing she can say or not say will make a difference to the court. If she were not directly involved, yes, her brain cells would have been spinning and she might have come up with something whether it helped the situation or not. But to blame her for not pleading with the judge and making a scene in court is kind of below the belt. It is almost saying she did nothing so Onir could remain behind bars and even you with the aversion you have professed for Purvi know that is not true. Nothing can be served by keeping Onir in jail unless you are going to join the bandwagon and say she wants him out of the way so she can be free to pursue illicit relations with Arjun. That is a far cry from the truth.

Purvi cannot be faulted for not behaving like Varsha. Purvi has also always managed to keep a lid on her emotions be it in the Arjun situation or the myriad instances when Ovi was accusing her, she has never opened her mouth to defend herself or make a case for herself. She cares for Onir, I will not say too much, for nothing can be too much in this instance, and she is quiet because she is at fault and at the root of his troubles, she has sense enough to realize there is nothing immediate that can be done to release him, the evidence is damning. She behaved exactly like how she would have behaved if she was on the stand herself and that is saying it all.

I do agree with you that if Onir doubts himself for the part he played in the baby switch fiasco, he will break down further, he needs to have his motives validated for him to go on and for that he will believe (right or wrong) that he was correct in following Mishti's wishes to donate the baby.

And please do not move forward in Ovi fashion, that may end up sideways and backwards and back to starting point ie if we dare estimate a guess on the upcoming track judging by Damodar and Manav's talk.

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Dear Shyamala,

Thank you very much! 😃

I do have HBP myself, thats why I try to look at PR objectively and with loads of cynicism so my BP doesnt go up! Most of the time I laugh at all the melodrama going on. My son (who doesnt know Hindi) once called it Pavitra Pasta and I have also started calling it Pavitra Pasta...like long strands of pasta, its storyline is tangled and convoluted! 😆

Im glad that your BP is normal and so it should be, notwithstanding your ire at whats going on in PR. Its just a show and we should not get upset abt whats going on. The CVs and Ekta just LOVE to make us viewers jump through hoops by throwing us curveballs and unbearable twists! The angrier we get, the more we discuss and dissect the show, the better for their business! 😆

Purvi's rejection of her little baby is nothing new in Ektaland. Purvi is as confused and unmaternal as most of other Ekta heroines. Ive watched a lot of Ekta shows so I know this. Most of her heroines have a tendency to abandon their babies or children and go around poking their noses where it doesnt belong, trying to act God and run other people's lives when their own are horribly messed up!

Ekta heroines are also usually confused and torn between two men...one the love of her life, the other guy her true friend and companion...same formula used here!

Purvi is no saint although she acts all saintly. She is to blame for half of the problems in PR but then so is Ovi. My question is why spare Ovi and put all the blame on Purvi? When she gave up Arjun for the happiness of Archana, whose divorce was almost finalized...she did make a great sacrifice. Of course she did not need to force Arjun to marry Ovi, just asking him to go back to Ovi would have been sufficient. But she had to act God and make sure Ovi Arjun were tied in matrimonial knot so he cannot escape! 😆

Ovi entered the deal knowing fully well that Arjun belongs to Purvi in every sense...so how did she expect to push Purvi out of his heart and mind?

Why are Ovi, Manav, Deshmukhs etc blaming Purvi for destroying Arjun-Ovi marriage?

As for Purvi and Onir, Im sure she will stick to Onir now that hes fallen from grace! In court, she could have testified that he had done her bidding only but that wouldnt have saved him from being convicted for the completely unethical thing he did, no matter at whose bidding! Usually wife cannot testify in her husband's favor. Have you watched "Daag"? Rajesh Khanna is convicted of Prem Chopra's murder even though he had done so to save his wife's izzat. Sharmila couldnt testify in his favor because a wife's testimony is supposed to be favoring only the husband even if he is guilty! Thats a factor and also that what he did could not be condoned by law at all! He was bound to lose his licence and he shd have thought abt that when his Mishti made that outrageous request.

You see, everyone in the world has to pay for his/her own actions sooner or later, Onir is doing the same. I dont sympathize with him for losing his licence. He deserved that, but if Mittal implicates him on the organ trafficking too, then that would be terrible! I hope he and Sachin and Arjun would prove Mittal was the real culprit! Didnt they have the evidence against Mittal already?

Instead of cursing Purvi and wishing her dead, I wish all of us would wish death upon Mittal and Punni! They are the real villains here! They are indirectly and directly responsible for the baby truth being revealed to Ovi and rest of the world! I really hope Mittal goes to jail soon! And I wish Punni loses all the wealth and riches she had acquired through nefarious means and is thrown out on the streets!

Purvi will support Onir in his hour of need, she will help him get back on his feet. I have no doubt abt that! Unless Onir goes off somewhere by himself, but do u think he will abandon Mishti?

I like Onir as a person but not as a blindly supportive, slavish husband! Its time he asserted himself and took back his life into his own hands! He is impossibly noble and I feel sorry for his poor patients back in Kolkata since he used to treat them for free!

Arjun running around with the baby, begging the two reluctant mothers is completely ridiculous ! So is the nanny he hired who was sleeping on the sofa, Mrs. Braganza! 😆 But thats how it is in Ektaland. They have no idea abt babies, nannies etc since Ekta and her writers are not married, dont have kids and are overworked (writers)

I dont care abt the amar premis, as I have said before, Im not a diehard ArVi fan andIm not a teenager either😆, even my daughter is not a teenager anymore...

Pari is more important for me because shes a baby, a helpless little one! Onir is an adult, able to deal with adversities and also responsible for his own actions.

Pari is not responsible for the actions of her deadbeat mother, her unstable step mother or her irresponsible father! But shes the one suffering here, without proper family or nurturing!

Actually I liked Onir-Purvi jodi a few months ago when they were waiting for the birth of the baby. But now Im pissed off at both of them! What they did was wrong, the way they handled it was wrong! Why did Purvi have to discusss Pari in that restaurant with Arjun?

And how the hell could Ovi overhear their conversation in a bustling restaurant while standing so far away? THAT IS THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION! Which nobody has asked so far! 😆

Anyway, even if Ovi had not overheard them, Punni-Mittal would have exposed the truth the next day so they should be punished ASAP!

As for Soham, I am not enamoured of him, but I like him because he has served his sentence for his crimes and now hes truly reformed and trying so hard to belong to a family that had rejected him! He did serve a jail sentence for his earlier crimes, and shooting Archu was an accident as we all know. Whats nice is now he is acting as a loving, protective elder brother and I really like that!

Wasn't Soham acquitted of the previous charges of kidnapping and extortion? I dont remember (getting old) so please refresh my memory! Was he convicted of shooting Arjun? I think he was...

I still believe Ovi has not really changed! She was willing to be happy when she thought Arjun and Pari were HERS! Now that she knows neither are HERS, she threw them out with the dishwater! Shes still the selfish, stubborn brat ! I dont blame her for rejecting them, any woman would reject the child of her husband and his ex-lover. But I never liked Ovi for her selfishness and her inability to think about anyone else but herself!

Originally posted by: gaurav_ankita08

Jhanvi,
Though i was about to read that post when Tamasha happened but unfortunately had no time to read it,Today i went through it was a good analysis of epi.
For Onir would say that the Guy was safe in his Tabela but when Dear One said chalo lets go to Mumbai to have fun it turned out to be a nightmare for him as the licensed got cancelled.
Purvi being an chariotic in Onir n Arjun's life who kept them running behind her, I am ashamed that Purvi in yesterday's epi Hugged Arjun infront of Manav that shows how this girl change her mind in every two minute,She has gone ahead to it.
Ovi- She is not leopard she is good hearted person but when people like Purvi gave her big Dhoka which was very big in front of her Marriage Deal,Ovi not being accepting Pari is that she is a baby of Arjun n Purvi where Ovi hates them both.
Manav-He has lost in Archana as her period of Coma still not completed yet,He has a very great bonding with Ovi n Teju as they are his real daughters. Purvi is just a "Jawabdari on him.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Pallavi,

I seem to be an even more shameless recidivist than I had feared I was, but I will try to save some face by not writing a page here!

Firstly, I thoroughly enjoyed your post.

Secondly, though Onir deserved to be pulled up for the baby swap and perhaps have his licence suspended for a while, a permanent cancellation for this sort of offence with, as the judge himself acknowledges, no nefarious motive,and seen against his track record and his sterling reputation, is much too harsh.

More to the point, no court is empowered to take any such decision without a formal enquiry by the Medical Council of India, who hear all parties and take all factors into account including the past record of the accused and the circumstances of the case. It is their verdict that is final, the court cannot act on its own. But of course the PR CVs probably do not know that the MCI exists, not to speak of its decisive role in such cases.

Lastly, Soham was not acquitted in the kidnapping case (of Purvi, mistaken for Ovi). Everyone testified against him, and Purvi mumbled and hedged after failing to persuade Arjun to testify that Soham shot him in self defence! But the one year sentence was ridiculously low. In real life, he would have been sentence to anything from 5 to 10 years. In the beginning, he was a willing participant in these crimes, and was proud of it, so I find his sudden about turn very strange. But I like Ankit, and also Soham's uanbashed cheekiness, which is a relief in this crowd of lachrymose characters,

Shyamala

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Janhvi, my Janhvi.

What all do you make me do - in this instance backtrack on what I wrote just hours ago! Well, let me at least save some face by keeping it brief.

- Varsha was just an example and not the core and even less the sole basis of the argument. What I stressed was in the highlighted part:

And one makes such efforts in a crunch situation, whether one believes they will work or not, because one cares.

Purvi did not need to make a scene or a lot of nose, you know. In her place, I would have insisted that I testify, and in simple and telling language, I would have made clear to the judge that I was the moving force behind the swap, that Onir had voiced reservations that I had overridden, that I had done this out of purely altruistic motives, and that he had done it, despite his initial reservations,as he was ultimately convinced that it was the morally right thing to do. That might have made an impression on the judge, who was already convinced that Onir had not done this for any nefarious reason. It might thus have led to a limited, and not an open-ended suspension of his medical licence.

As things turned out, she did not even make an attempt, which I find unbelievable in a loyal and caring wife. No, I do not think that she did nothing so Onir could remain behind bars, any more than I think that there was anything shady in her crying in Arjun's arms. But she should never have done that, it would have been most inappropriate anywhere, and all the more so in the courtroom. If Onir had happened to come back just then, I am sure even his fabled tolerance and understanding might have failed

And she does not even try to comfort him with a hug -and it is not as though she does not hug him - but there perhaps your guilt argument would be more applicable.

Shakti was wonderful in that little scene as he descends from the box and comes up to her. He does not look at her at all, he is in a private web of misery of his own as he looks up at the ceiling and then lowers his head on to his hand. She cannot reach him at all, and she does nor really try.

Janvhi, do you read Dorothy Sayers and her Peter Wimsey mystery novels? There is one last scene in, I think, Busman's Holiday, where Peter Wimsey, who gets badly affected by acute feelings of guilt whenever a criminal he has helped nail is hanged, retreats into a shell where his wife can no longer reach him. In the end scene in the book, his wife is sitting in her room at the top of the stairs (in those days, husband and wife always had separate bedrooms) as he comes up them dragging his leaden feet. She holds her breath, and thinks to herself that if now he does not come in to her for comfort, she has failed completely as a wife. The door does open, he comes in, kneels at her feet, and buries his head in her lap as she cradles it and holds him close.

Purvi might have to pass some such test soon. It is high time she stops viewing her husband merely as an eternal support and lightning rod, and realises that he too has his vulnerabilities, and badly needs support and reassurance right now. She has to be clear-eyed and strong for him of she is to pull him out of his depression, and not the kind of eternal watering pot festooned with umpteen wigs that she has become.

Finally, the Ovi reference is " I, like Ovi, am moving on"and not " I am moving on like Ovi". The difference, and it is a huge one, is in the syntax and the commas!😉

Shyamala

Originally posted by: archis_2013

Pallavi, I loved and loved your post. Such a balanced view of the show, no wonder you don't let the the show impact your BP. You have summed it up well with such a pleasant writing, there a few things I could pick up myself from the way you present your points.

I haven't seen you much in the forum (maybe I was very selective in the posts I read !). You might be a veteran or a newbie like myself but dear friend, do kteep up the way you present your views on the show. I am looking forward to more from you.

On how Ovi overheard Arjun/Purvi in the restaurant is spot on! I too was wondering when someone wrote Arjun-Purvi whispering in the latest no-secrets-barred party. Really? Apart from being so young and being successful in their profession, one more to the list - lip-reading!

Originally posted by: archis_2013

Pallavi, I loved and loved your post. Such a balanced view of the show, no wonder you don't let the the show impact your BP. You have summed it up well with such a pleasant writing, there a few things I could pick up myself from the way you present your points.

I haven't seen you much in the forum (maybe I was very selective in the posts I read !). You might be a veteran or a newbie like myself but dear friend, do kteep up the way you present your views on the show. I am looking forward to more from you.

On how Ovi overheard Arjun/Purvi in the restaurant is spot on! I too was wondering when someone wrote Arjun-Purvi whispering in the latest no-secrets-barred party. Really? Apart from being so young and being successful in their profession, one more to the list - lip-reading!

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Pallavi & Vasu, thanks for pointing out the inconsistencies in this already ludicrously absurd story, Shyamala takes impish pleasure in highlighting the illogical way the tale is spun so two more to her school should be delightfully refreshing.